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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: slayer1 on February 28, 2007, 08:49:00 PM
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I have commited myself to shoot everyday from now until the start of deer season. I figured I would start a thread where we could post our progress daily, and give each other support! Who's with me?
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I could use some motivation like this. I'm in. I'll have my target back on Sunday and will get it set up in the basement. Still cold and crappy weather here. I plan to start shooting leagues on Tuesdays, too.
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I always take a target and my bow with me to work. I have permission to shoot on a piece of land close to my work. I stopped by BK and grabbed a burger. I set the target out, drove the truck out to about 40 yards. I dropped the tailgate wolfed down the burger. My first series started about the 25 yard mark. The first three arrows I shot, all hit in a 2 inch dot! Great way to start.(I love hearing arrows slapping together) I mixed it up shooting at all different yardages out to about 30. Let loose about 75 shots all together, before I had to head back to work. My goal is to be able to shoot out to 40 yards keeping three arrows in a 3 inch dot.
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I want to be like Byron..lol
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I'm in. Maybe I'll start at 20yds and work my way up to 40 as I go. Of course I can practice with my old bow(Now belongs to my 14 year old nephew)until my new one gets here........Can't wait.
Jeff
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Let me back up a minute and let you guys know where I am in terms of progress. On October 28 2006 I killed my last deer with the Compound. It was a 10 pt. scored 123 not a monster by any stretch, but the biggest deer I have ever killed, and I was glad to have had the opportunity. From that day forward I have not shot or hunted with wheels. The feeling is just not there anymore. Since that day I have been shooting sticks every chance I get. About 2 weeks ago some friends talked me into to going to a 3-D tournament. I had never been to one before. They were showing me the ropes, and we were ribbing each other the whole time. I had a blast. I shot a 168 out of 200 and ended up winning the thing. I could not believe it. There were only 25 guys shooting, but that experience lit another fire under me, in terms of trying to get better. So far I have shot everyday in the month of February. Today I shot 6 arrows right before I left work 3 at 23yards and 3 at 13 yards. All landed in the 3" dot I was shooting at. I guess the reason I started this thread was to see if maybe we could feed off of each other in terms of motivation, practice routine, creative ways to make sure you shoot everyday etc. Tonight I will try to post some pictures of my equipment and targets, to give you guys a little glimpse into my world. lol...Shoot often and shoot straight. :thumbsup:
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Slayer, I think Byron wants to be like you. :thumbsup:
Wait a minute, you must be Howard himself reincarnation.
Seriously .....Great shooting bud.. Keep it up...Like in all sports, some people are just naturally gifted. you are one of those ... :clapper:
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Like you I killed my last deer with a compound this year, and sold the wheels. I already had some experience with traditional gear, and owned/shot a few trad bows. I started shooting regular again back in Dec. However I have not yet worked myslef back to the ranges that you have. I am still working on my form, anchor, and release. I usually shoot no further than 15yds. I got in the habit of GAP/stinctive shooting last year with my trad bow. I'm really trying hard now to just focus on the target. It's comming slow! So I am feeding off of your success. I almost practice everyday, sometimes for 10min sometimes for an hour. I carry my bow and a block everywhere I go. Somedays at 15 yds I hold 2-3 inch groups, other days not so tight. At 20 my groups are less consistant. My goal right now is to be able to hit a turkeys vitals at 15yds by 28Apr. I'm pretty confident I'll reach that goal, maybe even exceed it.
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Today I set up a bunch of cans from our recycling all around the yard. I set them so I would be shooting at the bottoms of the cans (3" circles) I had no distances set, just put them out all over. I proceeded to knock the cans all around the yard by nailing them with my arrows. I was in rare form as I missed 0 out of about 30 shots. I'm gonna try this more often. Lots of fun. I did it before reading this thread. After reading, thought I would share it, and use it as a practice regiment. oh yeah, got rid of the wheels about 1996
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Thats a good one Jerry. Sounds like a lot of fun. Thanks for sharing.
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I thought I would share how I have managed to shoot everyday for the past month. Sometimes I can only shoot a few arrow but I try to do something everyday. Here are some creative ways:
1. I have a target at the end of my drive way, I positioned my outside house lights so they shine on the target. I started getting up 10min earlier for work. While my truck is warming up I shoot two or 3 arrow from different ranges. I hang my bow back up and head for work.
2. When it is raining or the weather is bad I set a target out in front of the garage. I stand inside the garage and try to shoot at least 2 or 3 arrows. Most of the time the distance is not that great but at least I get to feel the bow in my hand.
3.When the weather is nice I take a target to work and at lunch time I try to slip out to shoot for a half hour or so.
4. I shoot at night a lot. I have lights lit up down my drive way so i can shoot out to about 30 yard. I can get a lot of work done after I take care of my family obligations.
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I'm in. I only have over spinned arrows to shoot right now. Just bought a lighter bow 2 weeks ago and am still building the woodies to shoot in it. The 160 gr. points helped a little but I still shoot it every chance I get. I have worn out the both centers of a bag target while learning to shoot. I'll shoot the 3d course with you tomorrow at the classic even though I still pretty much stink.
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I'm getting 2-3" at 15 yards but when I back up past that the groups start to open up. I'd like to be able to shoot 2-3" at 25 yards. My son and I practice in the evenings when I get home from work.
I was going to post a question about this. Past 15 yards is it still possible to shoot instinctive or do you need to start shooting by gaps out that far?
Just wondering what y'all do?
Thanks,
Rusty <><
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I shoot instinctive at all distances. It has taken a lot of shots to get to that point. Just keep practicing and shoot as much as you can, it will come. Start at short yardages and gradually increase. I am starting to work out to 40 to 45 yards. I always go back to the shorter yardages just to keep the skills sharp. :thumbsup:
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Slayer,
You don't use gaps at all at 40 and 45 yards?
Rusty <><
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Well I had a great evening last night. My first arrow was in the 2in bull and 3 more were real close at 20yds. My last 6 arrows were all in a 4 inch group at 20yds. I've never been that consistant on six arrows at that yeardage. It freaked me out. I thought someone else was shooting.
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Originally posted by Rusty in Fla.:
Slayer,
You don't use gaps at all at 40 and 45 yards?
Rusty <><
Rusty, I don't use gaps at longer yardages. Its hard to explain. I just concentrate on the spot I am trying to hit, and let the arrow fly. The arrow tip is elevated but I really do not look at the tip. The best way I can explain this is In my peripheral vision I make sure the arrow is line with the target. After that my subconscious takes over. If you shoot enough you wont even think about it. If you try this, in the beginning, make sure you shoot at a large bail.
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I just came in from shooting. I took some pictures at different yardages 18,25,30,41. This first one is kind of cool. These are my first three arrows at 18 yards. I hate it when this happens. Esp with arrows are as expensive as they are. :p Need to start shooting dots at this range.
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/slayer1_bucket/IMG_1237.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/slayer1_bucket/IMG_1238.jpg)
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This next set of pictures was at about 25 yards. Still about 1" higher than were I want to be. My goal is to be perfact everytime at this yardage.
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/slayer1_bucket/IMG_1239.jpg)
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This next picture was from 30 yards. Groups start to open up here. This is a pretty typical group. I am working on trying to be more consistant at 30. Sometimes they are tight and sometimes they open up. I just need to keep shooting and stay motivated.
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/slayer1_bucket/IMG_1240.jpg)
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And finally 40 yards. This is another typical group. Sometimes better sometimes worse.
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r37/slayer1_bucket/IMG_1241-1.jpg)
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i sold my compound last spring and bought a recurve i shot all summer to be prepared for deer season.well about 3 weeks before deer season i cracked and my confidence went down and i bought a compound to hunt with.now i am back to stay with the stick bow.i was punished during deer season for buying the compound by not getting a shot a mature deer the entire season.now its back to the drawing board and practice,practice and i will be hunting with my bow this season.
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FB69, I would take the first deer that comes along to boost your confidence in your trad gear. once you see it happen yo'll never go back to a compound.
I have given up on shooting cans in my yard since my first post. I have been scouting a new property lately. So I do a lot of stumping now. Been having a blast. Up to about 20-25 yards I have been hitting things like pine cones and small wood pecker holes in dead tree trunks. Also been killing some small stumps out at 30-35. The more I shoot, the better I get, the more I love shooting. :jumper: This thread is a good inspiration. Let's get better together. yeah, I'm doin' that.
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Im in too shot tonight..... I SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, im in too. Today I shot today and my first shots haven't been great at all it seems it takes me several shots before I get in to my form its seriously like I go to sleep and im a noob by morning I forget everything until I shot about 12 arrows then I start to come in and I hate that. Like ive been saying I feel I shoot better on stumps and leaves then I do a bullseye I think because I wont be hunting bullseyes and I still cannot hold an anchor to save my life if I do I panic and jerk my arm or something stupid.
Its getting to the point im ready to wrap my bow around a tree I cant complain that I shoot bad because I dont once I fling them 12 arrows but I just want to be able to wake up and pack them right in there like Terry does. In my mind I can see my just shooting awesome then I go out and shoot and them dreams go away. What am I do doing wrong!? Should I be holding my anchor or just stick with my snap shooting?
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2Blade, I'm sure snap shooting is fine. Lot's of great shooters do that. Just concentrate on that spot. It all comes together with practice, practice, practice. You can make up an excersizer out of surgical tubing to strengthen up while you are watching TV. Just draw the tubing like your bow and hold it as long as you can. If you are sick of target shooting, try making some styrofoam squirrels to shoot at. A small rectangle of foam and some stick legs.
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Thanks Jerry ill give that a try I wanted to spice up my shooting by taking a bag target and throwing it over a tree limb a good distance 20ft up or so with a rope to pull it up so I can get use to shooting up just for fun.
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2 blade I have been getting tired of shooting the same old foam target too. I went to the garage looking for something else I could shoot at. I found 4 or 5 old duck decoys. I set them at different yardages all around the back yard and shot at them off the deck. Man that was fun. I figured if I could hit a duck decoy out to about 30 yards I should not have a problem hitting a deer come Fall. I will post some pictures later.
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Snap Shooting may work at close distances but at further distances I think most archers would be better off learning to hold at a solid anchor for at least a split second.
There are a few who can snap shoot accurately at close distance but the majority of accurate archers hold at a their anchor for a split second or longer.
If you need to re-learn good solid form...extensive blank bale shooting is where it's at.
There isn't a practice session that goes by that I don't do some blank bale shooting to engrain my form and rythem.
Ray ;)
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Black Wolf, I'll have to refer to Terry's video again , and these posts.
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=002994;p=2
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Jerry,
As far as I can tell Terry and Howard aren't snap shooting. They are reaching their full draw and releasing upon contact.
As far as I understand snap shooting is not reaching full draw, so I'm not quite sure what you are trying to tell me.
Ray ;)
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Not actually trying to tell you any thing, just trying to hook you up with the snap shoot video link. Guess I posted the wrong one.