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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: JBiorn on April 02, 2007, 07:57:00 PM
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Whereas my new bow shoots like a Demon, it is just beating me to death! I was shooting a recurve, but my new one is a longbow. I wonder if I have some serious adjusting to do? Or should I just get a good bracer and call it good?
I have already developed a flinch so bad I can't even hit my block at 20 yds!
Help me....
Jeff
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Hi Jeff,
Are you shooting a longbow, a selfbow?
What is your actual brace height?
F-Manny
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Get a bracer. My forearm had a pretty bruise on it after the Sweat from shooting Mark Hornes Hope and Bob Walkers Shawnee. I shoot without one with my recurve. Must be a grip thing?
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You mean you are getting thumped by the string? If so you are most likely straight arming the bow and even more likely if you were a compound shooter in the recent past. You can get away with that with a recurve due to there usually having a longer brace height. A longbow requires a little bend in the elbow in a lot of cases.
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Manny, it's a 68" Hickory selfbow and the brace height is 7 1/4".
BigRon-----I can certainly feel the pain! LOL
Jeff
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Vermonster----heck ya the string, and thumped is an understatement. It tore the hide off in one case!
Jeff
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Armguard and as David said, bend at the elbow slightly this will cause your forearm to roll outward. Shawn
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That should cure it for you.
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Of course, after the galding of my arm, idiot me says "gimmee another arrow!" :knothead:
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I hardly ever where an armguard when not wearing a coat. I had a nock break on me shooting one of my Swan's last fall and had a 6" bruise for a week and I don't ever get bruises.
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Jeffery,
Vermonster13 is right on the money, brace height is ample at 7 1/4"
Follow the good advises here and you will be fine.
F-Manny
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Ouch! vermonster, thats where I'm at right now. I have been wearing this bruise around for goin on a week and a half.
I appreciate you guys! Thanks. The TradGangers are some downright good folk, thats all there is to it.
Jeff
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yeah bro dont be a hero get an armguard LOL!!!!
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And also shooting LB's straight up and down. Will have that effect, make a fist,straight up and down now rotate like you are going to cant your bow. SEE what your forearms does? Nicely rolls out of the way SOMEWHAT! At least the tendermeat! Oh yeah get a arm guard.
Brent
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I do shoot at a cant......thats whats weirding me out. Maybe my being built like Popeye doesn't help.
Jeff
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I resemble that remark. Could very well be that you are torqueing the bow when you shoot.
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? Torqueing?
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Turning the riser a little in your grip.
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Ahhh, that makes a lot of sense. I'll have to try something different when it gets light again.
Jeff
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yo bro egg thats not a good look to torq the bow it will slap you every time.
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I'm going to move you over to the shooters forum where you can get more specialized attention since this appears to be more of a form/release issue than equipment one.
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JBiorn....
It's all about brace height and how ya grip the bow....
And one of my Armguards wouldn't hurt.
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I've been shooting for a few years now and never had a problem with the wrist slap; until recently. I could not see what I was doing different. My accuracy was off as well. Looking aroung on the site and came across a video on the Members Video by Curt Cabrera and he was showing how he gripped the bow. Lights on! My rip had changed for whatever reason and once I got it back, the wrist slap is gone and the accuracy is back and has improved. AS Mike G said above, it was the grip for me. Check out the video..... John
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Jeff:
One thing the compound has done to archers is teach them the WRONG way to grip the bow. 9 out of 10 will grip the bow in the web of the hand. This causes the wrist to bend inward and places the forearm in harms way. Howard Hill said grip the bow as if you were picking up a heavy suitcase. When you do that you will notice that the back of the hand is almost in line with the forearm and the large joint of the thumb will be almost inline with the center of the bow limb. This moves the forearm out of the way and no more string slap. Look at pictures of the old time archery greats, they all gripped the bow this way. It will feel different at first, but don't give up it becomes second nature rather quick.
Bob
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First grip is the most important which will vary with each longbow style.
Second with non protective clothing, put on an arm guard..
As for brace height being a factor, I disagree to change it cause the string slaps ya arm.
Brace height is for performance of bow and arrow.
Change it to avoid slapping ya arm and throw out tuning of the arrow? I don't think so. Put on an arm guard.
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Gonna shoot again today, I'll report the results of my new grip........still need an armguard, too bad there isn't an archery shop within about 50 miles.
Jeff
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There are quite a few nice leathers guys here who would more than be happy to help yopu.
If not, here's my favorite guy.
http://ironmountainforge.spaces.live.com/personalspaces/
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OUCH!! Kingstaken------$$$$$$$
Jeff
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Jeff sent ya email, ya PM box is overloaded.
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Thanks....and I cleaned out the ol' box, too!
Jeff
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ALRIGHT!!! Whereas this whole new grip is a bit weird for me, I am now back to putting arrows on targe without a chafy arm.
Thanks a million guys! This is the most helpful site in the world.
Jeff
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I've seen lots of comments on this thread about getting an armguard. I wear one religously, but usually just to hold my shirt tight, and for that occassionaly slap. I have three longbows of which none slap my arm. I couldn't imagine accepting stringslap. The noise alone of the string hitting the armguard would make me switch bows.
I think the input about bow arm, grip, and form should be considered more than the armguard.