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Title: One more shooting form video
Post by: rybohunter on June 22, 2007, 03:50:00 PM
I know these come up a lot. I hope you guys don't mind one more to critic me.

  bow video (http://s87.photobucket.com/albums/k153/rybohunter/?action=view¤t=MVI_0808.flv)
Title: Re: One more shooting form video
Post by: oldgriz on June 22, 2007, 05:54:00 PM
One thing I noticed was that your draw hand is not going to the same place on both shots... on the first shot it is dropping down on the second it appears to be coming away from your face..
Your draw hand after the release should follow come straight back in line with the arrow..
It appears as if you are plucking the release instead of letting your back pressure pull the draw hand backward from the string so it follows the line of your cheek.
That alone will make a big difference in your consistency...
Title: Re: One more shooting form video
Post by: cvarcher on June 30, 2007, 10:32:00 PM
Not bad. Keep the bow arm slightly bent and find an anchor point and stay there.
Title: Re: One more shooting form video
Post by: BobCo 1965 on July 02, 2007, 09:15:00 AM
Don't try to work on everything at once. I'll point one thing out.

I also think that I'm seeing inconsistancies in the release. I believe there is tension in the release hand (especially in the second shot). Try to "hook" the string and not clench it. Keep the back of the hand as relaxed as possible. Let the release be triggered by back tension and not from the fingers (there is no way to get them out of the way). Maybe try practicing with a full paint can when you get a chance. Just hook it with the hand totally relaxed.
Title: Re: One more shooting form video
Post by: rybohunter on July 07, 2007, 02:01:00 PM
Thanks guys, from the video and comments, I have certainly been able to tell the inconsistencies in my release and have been concetrating more on fixing them.
Title: Re: One more shooting form video
Post by: slow walker on July 18, 2007, 09:49:00 PM
Hmmm, well, First: you seem to be in a hurry.  I'd suggest slowing down a bit.
Second, your anchor is not the same each shot...a very little difference in that will make a big difference in impact point.
Finally, your draw hand seems to come away from your face on release.  This will make your arrows fly to the left usually.  It needs to be static or come straight back in a natural release of tension form.  Hope that helps.
Title: Re: One more shooting form video
Post by: Terry Green on July 19, 2007, 06:10:00 PM
Good info posted above.

Look at where the shooter's elbow is in this pic....

   (http://tradgang.com/terry/form1clock.jpg)

And now look at where your elbow is at full draw by stop-starting your clip and try to stop on the last frame before release.  I tried to capture that pic, but couldn't for some reason.
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Here's where you need to be....

    (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/magict3.JPG)

And here's where you are at now.....

   (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/magict2b.JPG)

You also need to slow down just a bit and 'think' about your elbow getting back while you are on the bale.
Title: Re: One more shooting form video
Post by: rybohunter on July 20, 2007, 03:11:00 PM
How do you bring your elbow in line with the pics without feeling like you are overdrawing the bow?
Title: Re: One more shooting form video
Post by: toddster on August 13, 2007, 12:54:00 AM
I agree the key to learning form is to go slow at first, speed will come only after the basics are mastered and all you have to focus on is the shot.  Haste makes waste.  I teach people as alot of the books teach us, stand close and work on one thing at a time till it all comes together.  Then move to 20 yards and shoot till you are cutting feathers,  something doesn't feel right or start doing things wrong, stop and move back up and just work on it,  repition is the key with muscle memory.  Remember not to over do it, take breaks, don't try to practice shooting 100 arrows at a time, you get tired and get sloppy and create bad habits.  Mr. Hill believed is credited with practicing by shooting 100's of arrows a day, I can guarantee he didn't do it in one end, but by breaking it up through out the day.
Title: Re: One more shooting form video
Post by: Bowclinic on August 13, 2007, 01:09:00 AM
Here I post a basic guide for normal and low targets. You must master this before trying speed, hunting-like shots and any other variation.
 http://img531.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tiroscorrectoszm9.flv