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Title: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: Gator1 on September 11, 2007, 11:44:00 AM
I have a couple of Longbows, cut 1/8" before center..

It seems when I shoot Up and Down, I get good arrow flight.

When I can't the bow slightly, the arrows seem to flying stiff???

do I have an overspined arrow, or does canting magnify a potential spine issue.
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: rnharris on September 11, 2007, 01:55:00 PM
not an expert but i believe it's changing your sight picture to the target tune your bow to the way you will be shooting it mostly if it's with a cant tune it that way in my experience canting the bow will move the impact right, the cant helps get the limbs out of the way and helps you line up the shot better just my opinion Ralph
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: Shape Shifter on September 11, 2007, 02:10:00 PM
I always cant my recurve and longbow when I shoot. I have seen people that normally shoot straight up and down trying to shoot while canting the bow. Some of them are twisting the string on the release and effectively shooting left or right.
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: jhansen on September 11, 2007, 08:46:00 PM
Gator,
No offense, but I'm inclined to think it is more of a shooter problem than a spine problem.  A stiff arrow will fly stiff regardless of the angle of the bow.  Go through your shot one step at a time with the bow vertical and with it canted and see what it is you are doing that changes.

John
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: snoopdawg on September 12, 2007, 03:35:00 PM
when you cant the bow too much you are changing the dynamics between the arrow and the bow....the weight of the arrow is no longer resting on the shelf but is now resting on the riser!  try just canting the bow to about 1:00 o'clock.
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: jhansen on September 12, 2007, 04:38:00 PM
If the dynamics change, then why can I turn my bow over horizontal and still get good arrow flight?  If I step up to a stiffer arrow, flight is not good regardless of bow cant.

John
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: Terry Green on September 12, 2007, 05:13:00 PM
Canting the bow has never had an effect on spine for me.....and I've canted from one extreme to the other, and never seen 'bad arrow flight'.

I think its shooter error like jhansen said.
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: Deadeye on September 12, 2007, 05:21:00 PM
Cant your bow you need to cant your head at the same time
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: Gator1 on September 13, 2007, 03:20:00 PM
Thanks for all your help guys...
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: Fletcher on September 15, 2007, 09:46:00 PM
Make sure that as you cant the bow you aren't rolling your shoulder in and shortening your draw length.  Shoulder line needs to remain parallel to the arrow and pointed toward the target.
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: Terry Green on November 10, 2008, 02:07:00 PM
TTT
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: TomMcDonald on November 10, 2008, 04:53:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by snoopdawg:
when you cant the bow too much you are changing the dynamics between the arrow and the bow....the weight of the arrow is no longer resting on the shelf but is now resting on the riser!  try just canting the bow to about 1:00 o'clock.
There is no way that resting the arrow on the sideplate or riser would make the arrow fly differently if it was spined correctly.
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: Don Stokes on November 10, 2008, 05:50:00 PM
I can move the point of impact right or left a few inches by canting more or less.
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: Dozer on November 10, 2008, 07:03:00 PM
I like what Shape Shifter said. I ran into the same problem and realized I was twisting the string which caused it to kick out knock right, showing a stiff spine. I can't seem to get my wrist to remain straight once I get to anchor so I hold the string with the very front of my fingers which gives my wrist enough room to twist without effecting the string. I also figured out that if I put tension in the back of my hand instead of allowing it to relax and just 'hook the string' I was more likely to twist my hand. I still catch myself doing it but that's why I pratice daily.
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: longbow1 on November 10, 2008, 07:20:00 PM
I ran it this problem a few years back, what I realized was as you cant your bow you are changing the way you grip the string, unless you make a mental note not to. try to put a little more string pressure on the top finger. My top finger would get a little lazy when the bow was canted. After I realized what was happening the problem went away.
Title: Re: Canting and Arrow Flight
Post by: Sam McMichael on November 10, 2008, 09:09:00 PM
Canting the bow has never caused me any significant issues as long as I cant my head also.  To me, the key seems to be in  making sure that my eye is still aligned with the arrow as I view the desired impact spot. Also, I agree that you need to guard against twisting the string.