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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: Deadbolt on October 17, 2007, 11:49:00 AM
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Finally got around to recording my shooting...worse then I thought LOL.
Just watching it shows several things I'm doing wrong but i wanted to post so ya'll could pick it apart.
I'm not satisfied with my shooting (never will be LOL) but I'm in the kill range. On a good day i group very well out to 25yards but other days I'm all over at 10yards.
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OK....your elbow is so high that its causing you to muscle the bow...
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Your over head alignment looks really good from over head....your arrow, shoulders and power points are all on the same parallel plane, and that little extra draw you do right before release is getting you there.
I think that if you get your elbow down, it will allow you to set up much more on bone stucture, and take out all that downward torque and make you more accurate. It might feel odd at 1st, but after you commit to thinking about that elbow being lower when you shoot, I think it will all start to feel more comfortable....and you'll feel the control you have over the bow as you will draw it with more ease.
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Thanks terry I will start to work on that!!
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May I add that the release at anchor is way out there. Looks like your tearing away at the face upon release. Try to keep the hand stationary on the face rather than pulling it away.
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CV...I 'think' that's a by product of his hi elbow and severe downward motion....if he gets that elbow down, his release should go straight back more during his follow through.
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*taking notes*
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thanks guys keep em coming...i will work on it and post new vids!
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Does the left movement of his bowhand upon release have much to do with anything? It alost looks like he's pushing the bow away from himself.
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Deadbolt, I agree with Terry, bet if you get the drawing elbow down it will help quite a bit with the release etc.
I also noticed you anchor, then draw slightly further before you release. Now, it might work...but I'll bet it's hard to get consistent unless you are using some sort of secondary anchor for the last part of the shot...like you anchor at the corner of your mouth at first then pull until you touch your canine tooth. Usually that "stop/start" causes some problems in most folks. Most find it easier to either pull all the way through while releasing at some anchor point (without really "stopping" for an appreciable length of time) or stop at anchor point and release from there...not creeping in any direction from that original point. May not be a problem for you but something to think about.
JBiorn, I would think that's indicative of a slight misalingment...It looks to me from the overhead that your bow shoulder is pointing slightly left of the target...causing lefty fliers when you release because your shoulder is having to pull the bow on target to the left instead of a straight ahead push if it were more lined up. Could be the angle though, can't tell for sure.
Good luck.
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JC thanks alot! I have been working ont he back tension and getting to it faster. That creep you see is me finishing off my back tension I am working on getting right to it from begining of the draw instead of having to creep at the end.
Also getting better at bringing my draw arm down.
As for my shoulder alignment you were sayings its a bit left. The target is a bit to the left of me but were you saying I'm a little to squar on tot he target? Bring my left foot forward a little more?
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In the first video, it looked like you were moving your head to meet the arrow a bit. My son has a tendency to do that too, which contributes to some inconsistency. This might also be contributing to your need to give a second pull at the end of your draw.
You might try keeping your head still and drawing to it.
I don' claim to be an expert, this is just an observation. Sometimes the little things add up.