Post by: deermaster1 on April 07, 2008, 03:12:00 PM
Post by: woodchucker on April 07, 2008, 03:31:00 PM
It really makes no differance how long you "hold" only that you hit your anchor point before releasing. What happens to alot of people who "snapshoot" is that they develope a "premature" release,and don't consistantly hit thier anchor point,usualy releasing before (sometimes WAY before) they hit thier anchor point. Just something to be aware of.....
If you're consistantly hitting your anchor point,and "snapshooting" seems to be working for you.....
Snapshoot AWAY!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:
Post by: deermaster1 on April 07, 2008, 03:38:00 PM
Post by: Steertalker on April 07, 2008, 05:38:00 PM
May I suggest that you do the same and condition your brain to hold at anchor for maybe 3 seconds or whatever. Get to a point in your shooting where you can do this with ease and maintain accuracy. By doing this you are preparing yourself for the "heat of battle" so to speak. It will insure that you reach full draw, even if just for an instant, on a live animal thus producing the same shot you're used to in your backyard.
Hope that makes sense,
Brett
Post by: Bender on April 07, 2008, 07:32:00 PM
Post by: grimlad on April 07, 2008, 10:29:00 PM
Thanks!
Post by: Aaron Proffitt on April 07, 2008, 10:42:00 PM
Post by: deermaster1 on April 08, 2008, 09:02:00 AM
aaron profit, i am AWAYS open for pointers. i was just happy to see a great shooter who shoots like i shoot. it just let me know that i am on the right track. ALWAYS looking for help to become a better shot....
Post by: Tilzbow on April 08, 2008, 10:12:00 AM
I began my traditional shooting 15+ years ago by reading Asbell's books and quickly became a snap shooter. His books do contain some great advice but I developed the quick release promoted within the books before I had the other fundamentals down. Within a year or two this turned into a horrible case of target panic when I started shooting in competition and hunting. Steerstalker alluded to this in his post. It took me 10+ years to beat the target panic and this year is the first year I feel I'm completely over it. BTW - I now hold at full draw for 1 to 5 seconds and the time depends on how long it takes for the proper sight picture to develop.
I used several methods to get over the target panic and snap shooting including using a clicker for over two straight years and I took those off my bows this spring.
An excellent exercise to condition your mind and body to hold at full draw is to get a really light bow (20 lbs or less) or make one out of a long piece (+70") of PVC pipe and a piece of strong string. Using your own hunting weight bow can cause shoulder injuries so I don't recommend that (personal experience!). You've got to have a multi spot target or several small "targets" to "aim" at. Now draw back and focus on a spot, then move to a different spot, then a different spot, and so on. Then eventually let down. Doing this for several weeks you'll short circuit the hard wiring of your mind releasing just as you hit full draw that can be created by snap shooting. I learned of this technique and several others in Jay Kidwell's book "Instinctive Archery Insights" and he does a much better job describe it and why it's done than I do here.
Post by: Aaron Proffitt on April 08, 2008, 12:19:00 PM
I think when deermaster1 asked what "What do you guys think ?",I think it was a rhetorical question.
Look,you guys that consistently shoot in the manner that is often seen on the Olympic line or at FITA shoots have a good thing going and I won't disparage that form.However,that's ONE way to shoot a bow.
One of the reasons I love the longbow is because of the versatility it offers.I can shoot it prone,sitting,at odd angles,and I can engage moving and stationary targets.All this is possible because I love to shoot and consequently shoot alot.
With that being said,in the 25 years I have been shooting a recurve/longbow(save for about 4 years in my teens when speed was King) I have learned three important factors that are key for me.
1.A well tuned bow.If the arrows are flipping and turning you'll never get a feel for what the bow is capable of.
2.A rigid bow arm.This is your gun barrel,man.If it's off,your whole shot'll go to pieces.
3.Complete and utter focus on your 'spot'.I am often not even aware of my drawing sequence,despite that after years of thinking that I am a 'purely instinctive'shooter;I became aware of the fact that I am actually a bit of a 'split-vision' guy.As I bring my bow arm up and begin my draw,I almost subconciously see my arrow in my periphery and then draw continues until my fletch disappears from my peripherial vision...then ....BAM !!...away goes death on a stick.The only reaon,and I do mean the only reason,the bow is drawn is to send the arrow down range.My draw plays no part in my aim.I use almost the same doctrine that applied back when I was part of marksman/observer team.The shot should surprise you.And it does.
Now,having said all that;that is ONE way to shoot a bow.It works for me.I can place my arrows almosy anywhere I want to out to around 30 yards or so.All the while,my hold at anchor is little more than a tab brushing my cheek.So,for anyone to suggest that holding at anchor is imperative to executing an accurate,clean shot...well...I'd suggest otherwise.
And to suggest to a guy who is pleased with his shooting, that he should change it is in pretty poor taste.
Post by: Diamond Paul on April 08, 2008, 07:32:00 PM
Post by: NDTerminator on April 08, 2008, 09:04:00 PM
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Originally posted by woodchucker:That's probably the best explanation I have ever read. Good job!... :thumbsup:
The real key to consistant shooting.....is a consistant anchor point.
It really makes no differance how long you "hold" only that you hit your anchor point before releasing. What happens to alot of people who "snapshoot" is that they develope a "premature" release,and don't consistantly hit thier anchor point,usualy releasing before (sometimes WAY before) they hit thier anchor point. Just something to be aware of.....
Post by: Whump on April 09, 2008, 02:18:00 AM
Post by: Ben Maher on April 09, 2008, 02:36:00 AM
however we video'd ourselves shooting....whilst i speed shoot/ snap apparently {i always shoot quite quickly} it became readily apparent that i alone was consistently hitting anchor.
good bow arm and hit ya anchor and you can't go wrong.
whatever works for you eh?
cheers
ben
Post by: Aaron Proffitt 2 on April 09, 2008, 11:38:00 AM
Chris,and others,have made the important distinction between the two.A quick controlled shot doesn't need be a hindrance.
Post by: Bill Tell on April 09, 2008, 04:41:00 PM
Post by: blueslfb on April 09, 2008, 05:59:00 PM
If your "snapshooting" works for you then by all means do it. Don't let anyone tell you you are shooting wrong (unless you can't hit a barn when your in it). Go to a trad shoot or any shoot for that matter and watch all the different styles and you will see no two people shoot exactly the same. We are all going to the same place but we all may take different routes. Bottom line if your styles works for you, keep doing that way. Just my 2 cents maybe 3.
Post by: chuck172 on April 11, 2008, 12:13:00 PM
I can come to anchor if I aim at a spot I don't intend to shoot, or if I close my eyes while drawing, I have no problem. But if I begin my aim with a straight bow arm which I need to do, that devil always seems to pop up.
Post by: laddy on April 11, 2008, 03:29:00 PM
Post by: bayoulongbowman on April 11, 2008, 03:47:00 PM
Post by: Aaron Proffitt 2 on April 11, 2008, 04:08:00 PM
Post by: Haldir on April 11, 2008, 05:34:00 PM
BTW Chris: Well spoken. Hope you can make it down to another shoot in Crossville.
Post by: Chris Wilson on April 11, 2008, 05:47:00 PM
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At 3D events the long holders with recurves tend to win, but out hunting they do well out of tree stands at standing deer. Much the same as compound shooters do. For us ground hunters, we need a more flexible form to give the most options for the wider variety of shots we take.Interesting comment. I hunt primarily from the ground and can't recall my shooting style costing me a shot at any given point. What type of shots do you feel would be an issue?
Good to see you, Colby....I'm going to try and get back that way sometime in the near future. Are you going to make it up to Clarksville to shoot the Tennessee Classic next month?
Post by: SHOOTO8S on April 11, 2008, 09:17:00 PM
As far as I'm concerned a shooter is in control or he isn't... if he HAS to shoot fast, they are other issues in play and the downside will soon come to the surface...if a touch and release shooter is in control,he's pulling through the shot and thats always a good thing!
Post by: laddy on April 11, 2008, 09:27:00 PM
Post by: Chris Wilson on April 11, 2008, 10:38:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on April 14, 2008, 12:06:00 PM
As of late, others have miss used that phrase and have put a negative spin on it, mostly by those that don't understand what snap shooting is as deemed by our forefathers......and referring to snap shooting as out of control shooting and leading to target panic. I just wish the term snap shooter would quit being miss used.
Target panic is a mental issue, and causes uncontrollable releases....short drawing is also a mental issue, as the one shooting knows they are suppose to come to anchor.
Snap shooting is a style of 'releasing' or shooting, ...target panic, or out of control shooting is a condition.
Post by: Steertalker on April 14, 2008, 03:50:00 PM
And even though we all have own cadence or rhythm a shooter in control can speed it up or slow it down a little or just not at all and let the string down.
Brett
Post by: BobW on April 14, 2008, 04:23:00 PM
Interesting to see this post as I am in the middle of reading Instinctive Shooting (Vol. I done, in the middle of Vol. II). G. Fred even comments that anchor is not critical if the same linear line is used in the draw that would reach anchor. As I read/understand it, it is all a matter of the same mechanics/form being used, and not anchor that is the essential element. As for the phrase "settling in to the shot", that seems as if the push pull is not constant, and thus a problem if one is doing that. I believe "snap shooting" is the deviation from proper form, and nothing else. It may be rapid or not.
Thoughts?
Post by: Terry Green on April 14, 2008, 04:33:00 PM
100% False
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Originally posted by Steertalker:Yep,....I'm a snap shooter, and snap shoot most times on game, but I have held on game as well, and letting down is very common on hogs, sometime as many as 8 times before I got a shot....if I got one.
I think Rod said it as succinctly as can be said ;)
And even though we all have own cadence or rhythm a shooter in control can speed it up or slow it down a little or just not at all and let the string down.
Brett
Post by: deermaster1 on April 14, 2008, 05:13:00 PM
Post by: Aaron Proffitt on April 14, 2008, 05:25:00 PM
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Originally posted by deermaster1:Off hand,I can't.The reason I say that is a scenario that involves maintaining anchor,may last a long time.To long for me.But,I have been at a 1/4 or even 1/2 draw for awhile.
terry, can you think of a scenario where drawing and holding would be preferable over snap shooting? i have not killed a whole lot of deer or hogs, but of the 6 deer i have killed, all could have been easily snapshot. thanks for taking the time to post.
Post by: Terry Green on April 14, 2008, 08:21:00 PM
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Originally posted by deermaster1:Absolutely, if your make up and mentality are better suited for holding, then that's what you need to do.
terry, can you think of a scenario where drawing and holding would be preferable over snap shooting? i have not killed a whole lot of deer or hogs, but of the 6 deer i have killed, all could have been easily snapshot. thanks for taking the time to post.
Some are more suited to calculate the trajectory to the moon, and others are better suited to drive the rocket. You just gotta figure out which guy you are.
Post by: adirondack46r on April 15, 2008, 05:20:00 PM
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Originally posted by Steertalker:I am with Brett on this one. I recently posted this...
The speed at which one chooses to shoot is a personal thing. Some need more time to set things up; others don't. What's important is being in control of your shot. It's being able to choose to shoot or not shoot when all the parts of your shot are arranged and brought to order at anchor. Typically what snap shooting does is to trigger a release of the string....which is not good. It's counterpart in the firearms world is called flinching.
Brett
posted March 18, 2008 08:48 AM
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"I have been shooting about 3 years now and until 6 months ago I always released as soon as (and often before) I hit my anchor point. And I was shooting pretty good.
After posting a video of my form and receiving alot of good feedback, I decided to "retool" my form, drawing to achor and spending a second or two or three acquiring my target and then releasing. Let me tell you, things got MUCH worse than I thought possible and I was very tempted to go back to my previous style. But I stuck with it. Several months into the process, something changed.
Suddenly, the bow that I used to think was a bit heavy for me was fully under my control. I became much more aware of my anchor point, back tension and alignment. Once or twice each shooting session I was shooting 3" groups at 20 yards, which was unheard for me previously. Now I am shooting better than I ever have."
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... and it continues to improve.
Here's something to try. Get yourself a 30# bow. Take 10 - 20 shots shooting without holding, just get to anchor and let 'er fly. Now take that same bow and shoot 10 - 20 arrows while taking the time to hold and acquire your target before releasing. This is what convinced me that I needed to be holding longer. On average my groups were considerably smaller when holding 3-5 seconds.
For me, it was all about control and form. Some can do that without holding, but my guess is they are in the minority.
This of course is my experience and completely unencumbered by scientific evidence. ;-)
Post by: Steertalker on April 15, 2008, 05:36:00 PM
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....I decided to "retool" my form, drawing to achor and spending a second or two or three acquiring my target and then releasing.It's all about programming the "coconut computer" between the ears. Anyone can learn to do it with the
training.
Congratulations adirondack46r on sticking it out and seeing things through! All it takes is a little determination.
Brett
Congratulations adirondack46r on sticking it out and seeing things through! All it takes is a little determination.
Brett
Post by: Diamond Paul on April 15, 2008, 05:46:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on April 15, 2008, 06:07:00 PM
Ya'll can continue to miss use the term snap shooter if you like, but I'm going to keep on trying to correct it. :D
Don't believe me?...ask Ron LaClair for starters.
I guess Fred Bear didn't know what he was talking about either.
Or the guy that was ranked 3rd in the nation back in the day(that held on target)referring to HH as a snap shooter.
Sorry, its just a pet peev of mine that some of the greats referred to each other as snap shooters, and it wasn't a negative term, nor were they out of control...they were describing great shooters and successful hunters. Like in my earlier post, somehow folks have twisted the term to mean out of control or target panic, or bad form...and that's not the correct meaning of the word according to our fore fathers.
Post by: Diamond Paul on April 15, 2008, 06:44:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on April 15, 2008, 08:08:00 PM
BTW...this being a Trad Bowhunting forum....our definition of Traditional is bowhunting before wheels....and from what all I've read and been told, and understand, the term snap shooter did not have a negative meaning back then....so that's why I'm holding to 'back in the day'. Hope that makes sense.
Post by: Ron LaClair on April 15, 2008, 08:44:00 PM
When someone says you have to shoot this way or that way because all the top shots shoot that way, I say baloney. Some of the best shooters I've been privileged to know shot with what some would call an "unorthodox" style. Jim Pickering used a "Dead" release and high anchor when he competed in some of the top tournaments of the day in the 1960's. Everyone else in the Country shot with what was call "Power Archery" Jim whipped them all. He was a National Champion and a PAA Champion using a style that everyone said was "wrong". Jim Caspers another Archery Champion shot with a high elbow on his drawing arm. He actually pumped his arm up and down after he was at full draw, he said it helped him build up back tension.
As for the term "Snap shooter", I've been hearing it for 50 years and it was probably used before that. It has "always" been used to refer to someone that shot in one fluid motion, and whose release was triggered when they touched their anchor. Howard Hill comes to mind, a definite snap shooter.
I was privileged to talk to Fred Bear many times over the years and I remember him calling himself a "snap shooter". He said, "I'm a snap shooter,..I concentrate from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet". He said he couldn't shoot a compound because the let off interfered with the rhythm of his shooting style and broke his concentration.
"Good snap shooters"?...I've seen a lot of them. In the early years of the GLLI (Great Lakes Longbow Invitational) when scores were kept , we had the best shooters in the Country shooting for the honor of top dog. The shooters that won that shoot more often than not were what I call "Snap shooters" Very controlled, very meticulous, very accurate shooters whose release was triggered when they touched their anchor.
Someone that "does not" come to full draw or touch their anchor before they release have what's called "target panic or what use to be called "IT". They are NOT...repeat NOT, snap shooters.
I think the problem is like what Terry said people today are "mis using" the term "snap shooter". Snap shooting is definitely not an inferior style of shooting a bow, however it must be realized that not everyone can master the snap shooting style. Those that can't may end up with target panic and be called snap shooters but in reality they are not. Maybe we should come up with another term to describe these failed snap shooters...."short snappers"?..."Half snappers"?
Post by: Diamond Paul on April 15, 2008, 08:54:00 PM
Post by: Ken999 on April 16, 2008, 10:08:00 PM
Post by: Terry Green on April 17, 2008, 10:10:00 AM
Post by: GroundHunter on April 17, 2008, 11:21:00 AM
I wuzgonna weigh in, but you summed it up for the original question, and to guide each of us in our quest for the shooting style that best suits.
Snap Shooting - It has "always" been used to refer to someone that shot in one fluid motion, and whose release was triggered when they touched their anchor.
That works best for me as my focus is hunting, and I get my best accuracy and consistency that way. If I can do it, anybody should be able, as I'm not particularly talented.
Yesterday's 18 yd snap shooting group. As you can see, my "line" was off, as the group is 3-4 inches to the left of wing-center - my focus point.
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/groundhunter/BB73SDSn18y2080416GRP2.jpg)
The shooting vid.
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/groundhunter/th_Wesley85SDSn18y208041642shots.jpg) (http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l264/groundhunter/?action=view¤t=Wesley85SDSn18y208041642shots.flv)
I'm not the best example, but this shows what a slow-learner clutz can get to.
For those who want to learn it, look at Terry's posts and John Schultz's "Hitting 'Em Like Howard Hill. That's what I've done, and worked from their examples.
Post by: Ron LaClair on April 17, 2008, 11:39:00 AM
If you continue to group to the left you might want to try a little weaker spine. Shooting left for a right hand shooter indicates a stiff arrow. :archer:
Post by: GroundHunter on April 17, 2008, 02:11:00 PM
I recently signed up to go to Bob Welsey's shooting school in September.
Post by: JC on April 18, 2008, 08:53:00 AM
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Originally posted by Ron LaClair:Dang Ron, I've been waiting for someone with your credentials to say that since I started back to trad. Thank you sir.
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One thing I do know for sure is there is no absolute style when it comes to shooting a bow.
When someone says you have to shoot this way or that way because all the top shots shoot that way, I say baloney.
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As for the term "Snap shooter", I've been hearing it for 50 years and it was probably used before that. It has "always" been used to refer to someone that shot in one fluid motion, and whose release was triggered when they touched their anchor.
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Someone that "does not" come to full draw or touch their anchor before they release have what's called "target panic or what use to be called "IT". They are NOT...repeat NOT, snap shooters.
I think the problem is like what Terry said people today are "mis using" the term "snap shooter". Snap shooting is definitely not an inferior style of shooting a bow, however it must be realized that not everyone can master the snap shooting style. Those that can't may end up with target panic and be called snap shooters but in reality they are not. Maybe we should come up with another term to describe these failed snap shooters...."short snappers"?..."Half snappers"?
Post by: Blue Moose on April 18, 2008, 02:52:00 PM
Years ago I sold my last compound and used the money to pay for a weekend of coaching from Bob Wesley. It was the best archery decision I ever made. Hope you enjoy it.
TM
Post by: Aaron Proffitt 2 on April 18, 2008, 02:56:00 PM
Post by: Aaron Proffitt 2 on April 18, 2008, 02:57:00 PM
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Originally posted by JC:No doubt... :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by Ron LaClair:Dang Ron, I've been waiting for someone with your credentials to say that since I started back to trad. Thank you sir. [/b]
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One thing I do know for sure is there is no absolute style when it comes to shooting a bow.
When someone says you have to shoot this way or that way because all the top shots shoot that way, I say baloney.
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As for the term "Snap shooter", I've been hearing it for 50 years and it was probably used before that. It has "always" been used to refer to someone that shot in one fluid motion, and whose release was triggered when they touched their anchor.
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Someone that "does not" come to full draw or touch their anchor before they release have what's called "target panic or what use to be called "IT". They are NOT...repeat NOT, snap shooters.
I think the problem is like what Terry said people today are "mis using" the term "snap shooter". Snap shooting is definitely not an inferior style of shooting a bow, however it must be realized that not everyone can master the snap shooting style. Those that can't may end up with target panic and be called snap shooters but in reality they are not. Maybe we should come up with another term to describe these failed snap shooters...."short snappers"?..."Half snappers"?
Post by: BLACK WOLF on April 18, 2008, 07:47:00 PM
What every archer should do is choose a style that is best suited for their goals, personality and ability...and the only way you will find that out is by trying different things or doing some research to better guide your decisions.
Snap Shooting isn't for everyone...just as Instinctive Aiming isn't for everyone.
If your goal was to hit pheasants out of the air...I surely wouldn't suggest String or Face Walking...but ultimately it's up to you to find what works.
It's just a privilage and benefit for everyone to have access to sites like these where you can pick the brains of those that have gone before you...to help make your choices a little easier and a little more directed.
Ray ;)
Post by: JC on April 24, 2008, 07:10:00 AM
Post by: adirondack46r on April 24, 2008, 08:41:00 AM
Bottom line is that I struggled with my accuracy for 3 years trying to establish a style similar to what I see on Terry's video. My conclusion is that I was much better able to establish control, form and accuracy with a longer hold time. (1-3 secs on average)
Now I'm only an average archer for sure, and I don't know anything about target archery and I haven't killed much (with my recurve), but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that for the AVERAGE traditional archer a longer hold at anchor (all else being equal - good alignment, good release etc.) will produce better results.
FWIW
Post by: stmpthmpr on June 03, 2008, 02:59:00 PM
I began my long love-life with barebow 30 years ago. I started off over-bowed and shot 70-75 lbs for years. If I had to label my style Id have to call it snap-shhoting. I shoot in one fluid motion and doubt I could have held at anchor to save my life.
What I dont understand is why people seem to have the need to put labels on everthing. Seems that when they do, the labeling is all too often followed by a judgement. Why do we need so badly to be right and tell others they are wrong?
When someone is challenged in some way and asks for advice, shouldnt we just give him our own experience, allow others to do the same even as theirs may be different from our own, and then allow that person to take what he can use and leave the rest?
Judgementalism is something that brings about seperation and division amoung sportsmen. There just arent enough of us to allow that to happen.
Anyway, for me... snap shooting is da bomb!! If I attempt to hold at anchor at all, as some of my friends do, it just leaves room for movement or waivering of the bow arm, decreasing consistency. It just makes sense to me that if I allow my 'instinct'(conditioned form, unconscious mind) to do the work of putting me on target, the most natural way to shoot is a smooth, fluid draw (either swing or straight-arm) and release upon touching anchor.
An interesting thing happened back in the 90's. A couple friends started giving me a hard time because they noticed that I wasnt reachng anchor, and that I would actually stick my lips out to meet my middle finger. I said, "ya mean like this?" at which time I flipped them my middle finger and kissed it!!
And guess what? I didnt do a thing about it. Why would I? I guess I got lazy over time shooting a heavy bow, but i was still consistently hitting what I wanted to hit at will. I just gave them a hard time back claiming to understand why they would be so interested in my form, being that I whooped their butts so often!! (Actually, they are both incredible shots and pride is a great motivator! Nothing like some great competition among friends to drive us to become the best we can be)
Anyway, my only advice is to not get caught up in all the "shoulds" and "do's and dont's". Give yourself a break and have fun. The more arrows you fling, the closer you will get to the day it just all clicks. Over-analyzing and over-thinking the shot, IMHO, just limits the brains ability to do it's thing, behind the scene where we cant mess it up.
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Post by: Terry Green on May 01, 2024, 09:28:58 AM
It is a great post BTW
Post by: Terry Green on May 01, 2024, 09:32:25 AM
It is a great post BTW
I've been shooting a bow since I was a squirt... but I didn't really start to learn about form and style until I started shooting competition 49 years ago. While we never "stop" learning there are some things that become apparent after 50 years of study. One thing I do know for sure is there is no absolute style when it comes to shooting a bow.
When someone says you have to shoot this way or that way because all the top shots shoot that way, I say baloney. Some of the best shooters I've been privileged to know shot with what some would call an "unorthodox" style. Jim Pickering used a "Dead" release and high anchor when he competed in some of the top tournaments of the day in the 1960's. Everyone else in the Country shot with what was call "Power Archery" Jim whipped them all. He was a National Champion and a PAA Champion using a style that everyone said was "wrong". Jim Caspers another Archery Champion shot with a high elbow on his drawing arm. He actually pumped his arm up and down after he was at full draw, he said it helped him build up back tension.
As for the term "Snap shooter", I've been hearing it for 50 years and it was probably used before that. It has "always" been used to refer to someone that shot in one fluid motion, and whose release was triggered when they touched their anchor.
I was privileged to talk to Fred Bear many times over the years and I remember him calling himself a "snap shooter". He said, "I'm a snap shooter,..I concentrate from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet". He said he couldn't shoot a compound because the let off interfered with the rhythm of his shooting style and broke his concentration.
"Good snap shooters"?...I've seen a lot of them. In the early years of the GLLI (Great Lakes Longbow Invitational) when scores were kept , we had the best shooters in the Country shooting for the honor of top dog. The shooters that won that shoot more often than not were what I call "Snap shooters" Very controlled, very meticulous, very accurate shooters whose release was triggered when they touched their anchor.
Someone that "does not" come to full draw or touch their anchor before they release have what's called "target panic or what use to be called "IT". They are NOT...repeat NOT, snap shooters.
I think the problem is like what Terry said people today are "mis using" the term "snap shooter". Snap shooting is definitely not an inferior style of shooting a bow, however it must be realized that not everyone can master the snap shooting style. Those that can't may end up with target panic and be called snap shooters but in reality they are not. Maybe we should come up with another term to describe these failed snap shooters...."short snappers"?..."Half snappers"?
Post by: Terry Green on May 01, 2024, 09:54:21 AM
There's one thing that I have come to realize with regard to this topic...a person that holds at anchor can *usually* speed up their shot, if need be, with little ill effect... however, the opposite cannot be said of the "snapshooter" ...*usually*... ;)
False. All the guys I usually hunt with that are snap shooters are all in control of their shot.
Post by: Mike Malvaini on May 25, 2024, 01:23:12 PM
Same answer from me as well. I find it odd that people that hold tell people that don't what they can't do. Same with aiming, gap shooters claim they know what instinctive shooters see and don't see, and how instinctive shooting is inferior when they can't they themselves can't shoot instinctive. It as comical as a NASCAR driver telling a Formula 1 Driver how to drive. :readit: