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Title: three under vs. Split
Post by: buckeyebowhunter on July 07, 2008, 03:09:00 PM
What works best for you guys three under or split grip, Ive always used split with my longbow, but was thinkin about buyin a recurve and seen a lot of people use three under with a recurve is three under better for recurves or is it the same as split?
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: Whip on July 07, 2008, 03:14:00 PM
I played around a bit with three under a couple of years ago.  I'm no expert by any means, but my thoughts were that it seemed to be more accurate at close known yardages, but I didn't seem to be as good at dropping them in from unknown yardages.  Might just be me, but it didn't seem like I was as good at judging distance instictively with three under.  

Also, it did sure seem to make the bow louder for whatever reason.  Maybe because my bows are tillered for split finger, or maybe I needed to play around more with the location of string silencers.  I didn't stick with it long enough to get comfortable with it.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: JEFF B on July 07, 2008, 03:19:00 PM
split is good for recurve or longbow. just use what you shoot best with.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: AMB on July 07, 2008, 03:19:00 PM
I am a gap shooter and a whitetail treestand hunter.  Three under puts the arrow closer to my eye and my gap is not too much at 20 yds. and I am point on at 30yds.  It is really the only way things look right to me.  I don't have trouble with the bow being any louder though.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: Migra Bill on July 07, 2008, 03:21:00 PM
I tried both and went with 3 under. With 3 under my eye is closer to the arrow and i am more accurate that way. The bad side effect though is that, for some reason unknown to me, it is louder.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: GingivitisKahn on July 07, 2008, 03:33:00 PM
I started split, was convinced (for a decade or so) to try three-under and now I'm back to split.  Three under was noisier (for me anyway) but they both seem equally accurate (again - for me).

If you do choose to go three under, you might consider making sure your bow is tillered for it.  Mine wasn't and in fairness, maybe that's why it was a bit louder.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: Doc Nock on July 07, 2008, 04:26:00 PM
I strive for instinctive shooting and find no benefit to 3 under. Was wondering and see some above that love it are more inclined to do the gap thing..neat. Eye dominance changed w/ age and shooting canted w both eyes open, split works fine...

I had a bad time with tendonitis and got trigger finger some years back in the ring finger...I went to "2 under"--my index and middle under..worked ok...didn't seem to matter but felt wierd for a while!

Finger healed and back to split...
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: BobW on July 07, 2008, 04:39:00 PM
Started with 3-under because of wanting to avoid finger pinch (I draw 32").  My bows are tillered for this style, and I just don't see a reason to change.  Each person has a style they like, and reasons for it.  I know the G. Fred Asbell books for instinctive state that split is the best for the instinctive method, but I will continue with my style.  I'm happy......
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: SteveMcD on July 07, 2008, 04:44:00 PM
I couldn't shoot 3 under to save my life. Just feels weird. However, I shoot split with a high anchor (cheekbone), so I would think the sight picture is about the same.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: bentpole on July 07, 2008, 04:58:00 PM
3 under.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: Jedimaster on July 07, 2008, 05:16:00 PM
Split.  I tried 3-under and had these observations:

I found myself "sighting" down the arrow (aiming), and being used to instinctive, it felt weird.

Had less control of the arrow, didn't stay on the shelf as easily.  More sensitive to poor draw and string twist.

Out of that particular bow it was quieter. Go figure.

I decided to stick with split although I could see where someone starting out could get more repeatable results with 3-under.  I just didn't want to screw up my form so I quit and stuck with what I was comfortable with.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: BLACK WOLF on July 07, 2008, 05:29:00 PM
Split Finger gives the archer more control of the arrow. Try shooting with a reverse cant using 3 Under and you will see what I mean.

3 Under places the arrow closer to the eye decreasing your Point On range which can make it easier to aim if your target distance is closer.

Find what works best for you and your specific goals by trying and comparing both of them under the specific circumstances you will be shooting in.

Ray  ;)
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: LEOPARD on July 07, 2008, 06:29:00 PM
I use 3 under. I prefer it to split fingers, and find it easier to anchor and aim using it!   ;)
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: JRY309 on July 07, 2008, 06:41:00 PM
I started with split finger and have always shot that way,it just feels more natural to me.And when I shot 3D in traditonal longbow class split finger was required.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: Night Wing on July 07, 2008, 06:51:00 PM
Split finger works for me. Tried three under and it just didn't feel right especially beyond 20 yards.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: beaver#1 on July 07, 2008, 07:16:00 PM
my wife shoots 3 under so i decided i would try it just to see what it was like.  well i did shoot good  with it at about 12 to 10 yards.  the biggest thing i noticed was that it made my arrows fly alot slower.  may have been my release.  but i am still shooting split, and my wife still shoots 3 under.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: J-dog on July 07, 2008, 07:59:00 PM
Split, just cannot do the three under thing. Grew up shooting slit and it works for me. Kinda like others have said: use what works for ya, if you are accurate with one, why change to another?

Happy shootin,

J
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: BigRonHuntAlot on July 07, 2008, 08:06:00 PM
The nocking point has ALOT to do with the way the 2 different styles perform. Play with it a little and see what happens! Atleast it did for me.  YMMV
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: Outwest on July 07, 2008, 08:32:00 PM
Ya gotta have a bow tillerd for 3 under to make it correct.

Hey I have one for sale.

John
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: BMOELLER on July 07, 2008, 09:01:00 PM
I found tiller doesn't really matter.  My original limbs are for 3under and my new limbs I presume (bought from another TGer, never asked) are split. Nock point just a hair higher and noise about the same.

Shoot what you like and go with it.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: Recurve50 LBS on July 07, 2008, 09:46:00 PM
I learned to shoot Trad bows split fingers but I tried 3 under and shoot better that way. Give both a try and see what way you like better.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: hvyhitter on July 07, 2008, 10:21:00 PM
I have shot 3 under and instictive for about 15 years now. I switched because I had a much cleaner and more consistant release. I have shot more than 2 dozen different bows that way and only two were known to be "tillered" for three under the rest were whatever or standard. All shot well for me with the knock point about 5/8" +/- high. The shot may "seem louder" as the string is released on some bows but not others. If someone is 10 yds away you really cant tell the difference. Try it and you may shoot better and you may not.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: Orion on July 07, 2008, 10:26:00 PM
Most folks who shoot three under anchor higher on their face for good alignment down the arrow.  One thing to keep in mind is that the higher the anchor the more difficult it is to draw heavier weights.  I'm not talking big differences here, but the elbow is generally higher and it's more difficult to get as much back into the draw when the anchor is higher, compared to a generally lower split finger anchor.  Most folks don't notice the difference.  Do whatever works for you.
Title: Re: three under vs. Split
Post by: Ian johnson on July 07, 2008, 10:32:00 PM
I find the best for me is to shoot 3under but with a low anchor point, find what works best for you