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Title: bare shaft tuning question
Post by: wiso on February 24, 2009, 10:32:00 PM
Hi everyone. I am getting ready to tune my bow and I would like some ideas about how to put arrow inserts in carbon arrows. Like i was saying I will be bare shafting so i would need to remove the insert and trim arrow if neseccery. Any info or tips would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: bare shaft tuning question
Post by: Chub on February 24, 2009, 11:14:00 PM
i use hot melt glue just unthread tip 2-3 turns heat tip pull out
Title: Re: bare shaft tuning question
Post by: McDave on February 24, 2009, 11:22:00 PM
I screw a field point into the insert, and hold the field point with pliers while I lightly heat the insert with a propane torch, and dab on a very small amount of the hot melt glue that is used to mount inserts in aluminum shafts.  The insert will slide into the shaft while it is still hot.  If some glue squeezes out, let it cool for about a minute that then peel it off with your fingers.

To remove the insert, hold the tip in boiling water for about 15 seconds, and pull on the field point with pliers.  Usually there is already enough glue and I don't reapply glue to the insert when I reinstall it on my bare shaft.

To install an insert for the nock, it is convenient to make a tool by pushing a field point backwards into an aluminum arrow shaft that is big enough in diameter to accept the point, leaving the threads of the point sticking out the back.  You cut the shaft off so it is about 6-8" long.  Drill through the shaft and the point and secure the point to the shaft with a screw.  When you want to install a nock insert, you can screw it onto your tool, heat it in the propane flame, dab on glue, and then push it into the arrow shaft.
Title: Re: bare shaft tuning question
Post by: Traxx on February 25, 2009, 06:24:00 PM
Why not trim the nock end instead.Carbon nocks are removable.
Title: Re: bare shaft tuning question
Post by: bowmaster12 on February 25, 2009, 06:30:00 PM
from working in archery pro shops dealing with compounds i would not suggesting heating the inserts when dealing with carbon shatfs.  The head reacts with the carbon an dcan creat weaknesses in the arrow wich can be a bad situation
Title: Re: bare shaft tuning question
Post by: bigcountry on February 25, 2009, 07:35:00 PM
Don't go trying to pull your inserts.  ONly bad things happen.  Just use removable nocks, and cut from that end..
Title: Re: bare shaft tuning question
Post by: SteveB on February 27, 2009, 05:59:00 PM
I use low temp hot melt and remove inserts all the time without damage - done it to 100's of arrows myself. And my local shop has done thousands.

 To bareshaft group tune, you shoot fletched with bareshaft and compare the grouping. To make changes, you must cut both the bare and fletched shafts - hard to cut the nock end when fletched.

Steve