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Title: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: Gizzard on February 25, 2009, 02:58:00 PM
Hi all, I'm switching to carbons this year and I have never bareshafted, Did a little today at 20 yds. Will this be alright or do I need to make some adjustments. Thanks for the help, Gizz   :archer:

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Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: McDave on February 25, 2009, 03:16:00 PM
It shows a little nock left, which I would find perfectly acceptable since the fletches will stiffen the shaft a little anyway.

Your bare shafts are impacting right in the middle of your fletched shafts, indicating neither nock high or nock low.  Some people would like this, others might prefer a little nock high, maybe move the nock point up 1/16".
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: O.L. Adcock on February 25, 2009, 03:18:00 PM
From 20 that's pretty good, just a bit stiff. What do they do at 30?....O.L.
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: McDave on February 25, 2009, 03:18:00 PM
Oops, are you left-handed (trying to look at your bow)?  I could be wrong in what I said above.
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: Wabash on February 25, 2009, 03:20:00 PM
Looks good as long as your fetched shafts have broadheads on um. Also I wonder if a layered target like you have will hide a high or low nocking point problem, might want to rotate your target. That's Good shottin  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: Gizzard on February 25, 2009, 03:30:00 PM
Thanks for the answers guys. Mcdave I am right handed. O.L., I haven't shot any at 30 yet if I get a chance shortly I'll give it a try, I thought they were a little stiff but I'm already shooting 300 up front, how much more do you think it would take to get them right. I've been thinking about trying 350 up front anyways, do you think that would do it. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: O.L. Adcock on February 25, 2009, 04:44:00 PM
It might, can you thin the side plate a bit?...O.L.
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: Gizzard on February 25, 2009, 05:41:00 PM
I try and find some thinner stuff for a side plate and try that, Thanks O.L.
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: Traxx on February 25, 2009, 06:22:00 PM
Ok,
How weak should they be,before fletching then?
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: bigcountry on February 25, 2009, 07:37:00 PM
Thats real good.  Thats as far as I would with bareshaft.  I would then move out to 30yards with broadheads and see how they group.
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: yekrut on February 26, 2009, 09:36:00 PM
My bareshfts fly crookred and then impact with the fletched arrows??? Kinda near them . At 15 yrds and 20. I can't seem to get that nice of a group. I am still learning.LOL
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: O.L. Adcock on March 02, 2009, 02:51:00 PM
yekrut, "My bareshfts fly crookred and then impact with the fletched arrows"

Most of the best shooters can't shoot an arrow "straight"...It could be a tuning problem but most likely it's a form problem you'll never fix using tuning. Just ignore it....O.L.
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: crandog on March 02, 2009, 11:58:00 PM
OL, are they weak or stiff?  I know you're the guru on this, I'm just trying to understand. The bareshafts look weak in relation to the fletched shafts.  Or am I reading it vice- versa?
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: bkupris on March 03, 2009, 06:20:00 PM
Your bareshafts actually grouped better than your fletched arrows (forget the angle the bareshafts are in the target) - Is that the normal pattern for those arrows? Compare 10 or 12 ends of 2 bareshaft and 2 fletched arrows before you try to draw conclusions IMHO..

Are you shooting bareshafts or fletched arrows when it really counts? Think about it...
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: O.L. Adcock on March 04, 2009, 12:18:00 AM
Brian's right. I hope the photo was just an example of several ends. Look at the average of many.  Crandog, if he's right handed, the bare shafts are grouping left of the fletched, that is a stiff indication. Only the group relationship means anything, shaft angle is too often form related, not tuning....O.L.
Title: Re: Bareshaft Tuning? Pics
Post by: crandog on March 04, 2009, 11:50:00 AM
Ok that makes sense.  Nock right stiff, arrows correct and impact left.  I think I get it.