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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: FeelTheHunt on July 22, 2009, 12:00:00 AM
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whats your average group size from 20 yards? Mine is about 8 inches, with six arrows, i just started, is this ok?
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If you JUST started I would say that is pretty darn good. Honestly I think my group at 20 yards is about 3-4 inches. I only shoot groups of 3. I am sure there are a lot of people on here that would put me to shame. When I first started I was doing good to keep 6 arrows in my bag target. Don't get the idea that every time I go out to shoot I shoot a 3 inch group I don't.
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thanks alot!!!! haha makes me feel better that im not the only one that was not great as a beginner, haha there is hope for me n the trad world.
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that's great for just starting out!!!! I shoot about a 2" group at 20. I also shoot around 125 arrows a day. When I slack off for a few months and don't shoot much my group grows quite a bit :)
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That's real good for just starting out! You might improve on that by just shooting 2 or 3 arrows instead of 6, the extra walking lets your muscles have a time to relax. Also helps with concentration instead of just flinging away.
Denny
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I shoot a max of 3 at a time. and get a 6 inch group.
But I am only 68n years young and have been at it for 55 years.
Oh did I tell you I shoot lousy but have fun at this sport of ours...
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3-4" groups at 20yds would win every 3D shoot in our area. And, we have some pretty decent shooters around these parts.
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yeah that was a guestimation I really never have measured a group. After writing that I thought about coming back and saying 5 but then I thought a heck with it.
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My one shot groups are superb. :biglaugh: Seriously, I seldom stand in one spot and shoot multiple arrows. Even when shooting at a stationary target I usually move around and shoot at different distances, angles with each shot.
8" sounds very good to me, there are days that I doubt I could consistently do much better with that many arrows.
You'll find that the smaller the target, the smaller the group. Ex; Shoot at a small nerf-ball instead of a pie plate.
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Ok I kind of took a little offense to GMMATs comment. So I just came off midnights and would not be able to sleep until I tested this. I shot 4 sets of 3 shots for warm up shots and then said ok these are the 3-3 shot groups. I got a 2 3/4,a 6 3/8 and a 4 1/8. So I guess he is correct this morning I could not hold a 3-4 inch group at 20 yards consistently (which I already said I should have said 5 after thinking about it). Now GMMAT don't think anything of this I just wanted to be able to sleep and to be as truthful as could be. I know this is pathetic but I pride myself on telling the truth. And the truth is you where correct today. The last thing I want to do is give anyone a false Idea on here.
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Wow, you guys are all great. I've been at this a while and couldn't gauruntee any better than 10" at 20 yards. Even then I might have a flier every once in a while. If you want my BEST group at 20 yards, that's different. But if I just walked out in the back yard right now with six arrows at 20 yards... I could't predict that I'd do any better than about 10".
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Depends on how many arrows make up a group...the 300 round counts ALL 60 arrows and that group will be out in the 8" range for most even though there may be a round when 4 or 5 arrows are touching for a 1" group which if off center isn't really a 1" group IMO anyway
genrally speaking my first shot is within a few inch's or less of what I,m shooting at around the 20 yrd range
fliers sometimes happen when it's for real so they should count when they sometimes happen in practice.Mr Murphy tends to show up at the most inoppertune times I shoot 8" groups
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I'd be real satisfied with 8" groups. Nice work! I agree with longstiks, shoot max of 3 arrows at a time during practice. Tired/weak muscles promote bad habits. Also, if you're just starting out, make sure you're devoting time/concentration to form. Keep shooting and don't forget to enjoy time spent with a bow in your hand.
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2" groups at 20 yards is about normal for me
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We can all shoot nice little groups in the yard.That seems to go away on a 3d range however.Group size does not seem to mean as much when it comes to 3d scores.As good as I shoot in the yard I still wind up shooting some 5s at times.If group sizes in the yard were the same at 3ds I would only shoot 10s. :bigsmyl:
The best shooters I know would probably be somewhere in the 6" 5 arrow group range if everything was always added in.They win or place about anywhere they go so I have to call that good shooting. :) jmo
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My 1 arrow groups are 11/32" every time. :D
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Heh Heh....
"Yard" groups..... They tend to be like the one great golf shot that everyone has made. Never mind all the shots that went into the next fairway. ;)
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After reading the groups others are getting I when out yesterday and strarted shooting to see if I could improve my groups size.
Sure worked got my first robin hood at 15 yards with xx75 1916 alum arrows. Went down the shaft a full 8 inches. now have a robin hood on the wall ...
Bill
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You guys who shoot 2-3" groups at twenty yards are the best in the world! Congratulations!
The 5-ring on a "blue-face" target is 3 and 1/8 inches in diameter. An NFAA indoor round is shot at 20 yards, using a blue-face. With all 60 of your shots in the 5-ring, you're shooting a perfect 300! You will win every tournament in the world by a significant margin.
Of course, if your group isn't in the 5-ring, a group isn't of much value, is it?
Mark
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dude i do good to get all 3 arrows in the target. i thought that a summer of bowfishing would keep me sharp. WRONG. i got some arrows done and went and shot today and man it was bad.
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Originally posted by Mo. Huntin:
I just wanted to be able to sleep and to be as truthful as could be. I know this is pathetic but I pride myself on telling the truth.
:clapper: That may be the least pathetic statement I've ever heard described as pathetic. A man who tells the truth to the best of his ability has every right to pride himself on that fact.
BTW, if I could regularly shoot a five inch group at 20 yards, I'd be a seriously happy man.
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Sweet old Bill,
I am 62 and shoot a 50# Howard Hill 66." I started shooting about 6 months ago and used to shoot 6, 10, 20 arrow groups. Watch Masters of the Barebow 3 or Rick Welch's #3. I only shoot 2 arrows now at 20 yds, because I keep hitting my arrows and tearing fletches off. Do what Rod Jenkins or Rick Welch says about developing a routine and don't deviate. Keep your form and change your bow. You will be a star.
Good Shooting,
Barry Green-Burns
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I've seen a lot of people shoot, and in my experience 2-3" groups at 20 yards is phenomenal. Twice that would be excellent.
FeelTheHunt, don't be put off by such excellence. Honest 8" groups at 20 yards is quite good, even for someone with a little more experience. I have an attic full of 3D trophies, and 4-6" groups make me happy. With a 6" group, you're hitting within 3" of the target every time, which is fine, and plenty good enough for hunting.
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Reading this makes me feel better. My problem is consistency. Some days I shoot 5-8" groups (6 arrows) and other days I would be glad to shoot 8-12" without a flier. It seems I always have a fliers. Back in the 70's when I was shooting 100-150 arrows every day my groups consistently stayed within 4-8".
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The original post asked for opinions on his particular grouping during his target shooting practice not on 3d or hunting. I shoot 3 to 4 inches on most days. I shoot 25 yards or less in my backyard. Some days I do much better, some days I pray I hit the bag. If I group well and hit the bullseye, I stop after a dozen shots. If I shoot really bad, I get 10 yards away and check my form.
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I can pull my groups with one hand no matter what distance I shoot. I always pull my arrows with my right hand.