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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: snag on December 15, 2009, 02:59:00 PM
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Everyone should go to Safari Tuff's website (Rod is a sponsor on here) and look at the "Shooting tip" part of the site. This is a very valuable tip that has helped me over the pass several months. Thanks Rod! Merry Christmas! :thumbsup:
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You're right, Dave, that is a great tip. Even though Rod drilled it into us in the class, I still find myself not doing it at times, and my shooting inevitably improves whenever I start doing it again.
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Hi David, I have to think before I shot. S-l-o-w down, pull, pull, pull....bam! :biglaugh:
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I sure wanted to be over at the class this Summer but couldn't make it - taking care of my wife. One of these times hopefully. McDave, it was good to meet you at Western States and hopefully not the last.
I have read what you guys and Rod have posted as well as what Terry and others have posted and have tried to incorporate that into my shooting. I have improved but know that Rod could help greatly. Nothing beats personal coaching!
I have had some folks tell me about a 'dead' (if that is what it is called) release but can't seem to master that and it is about what works for each of us, anyway. I find my accuracy is better with just a moment of pause before the shot and then pull through.
Still learning,
Ray
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Here is the link
http://www.safarituff.com/trophies.html
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Yes....that IS a great tip....and its mentioned on here a lot....here's my saying on the subject...
'An anchor point should never be a resting place....but instead, an evolution to execution.'
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I checked it out, its a good tip..
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Terry, that's a good way to explain it. I believe Rod calls it a continuation to conclusion.
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great advice!
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thumbs up to that tip
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Originally posted by Ray_G:
I have improved but know that Rod could help greatly. Nothing beats personal coaching!
Ray
Ray you right about that and I hear Rod is an excellent coach.
I was lucky enough to have a top Korean Olympic Coach came and vist (Coach Kim Hyung Tak) who has trained the Korean Ladies team to several gold medal wins over the years. Even though I'm a Longbow tourney shooter I learnt heaps from this guy. I pleased to discover that his passion was shooting Korean Horn Bows so felt like I had somebody who understood my form requirements as a Longbow Archer, he did.
His understanding of body movement was mind blowing and his teaching methods were very hands on and easy to understand. I've attached a short Youtube clip of him teaching extension\\release as you can see it's very easy to learn corect feeling with him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG5LunZ3iUc
I've managed quite well over the years but having a good qualified coach watch you shoot can save a lot of trial and error and time.
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Great tip. I always try to pull the bow apart :goldtooth:
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"You can't pull too much"...seems I heard that a few times!
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Really good tip... I've been battling t p for some time. It seems as though the brain really needs something to focus on like a task. I've done a lot of shooting with a clicker and It makes it a lot simpler..... Aim(however you aim) and keep pulling till it clicks. When I've been practicing without a clicker I aim and focus on continuing the pull till the arrow leaves. The one thing I add to that( for now) is if I start to lose control I curl my fingers around the string a bit more to stop an early release. Eventually I hope not to have to use this , but for now it works. I have come a long way and this tip is one more step toward total control!!!
Ike
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Ike, good point...deep fingers on the string.
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It's sort of my insurance policy for right now. It keeps me from colapsing and gives me time to refocus on pulling through. Hopefully i'll get to the point that I don't need to do this anymore, but for now, it's my little crutch.
Ike
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Nothing wrong with a crutch!
SL
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Just read the tip, and that IS probably the best tip relating to a properly executed shot, IMHO. I have lost sight of that the last few months, and have since been trying to accomplish it each and every shot. Like Rod says, it aint always the easiest to do, but it WORKS!
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If / when I don't keep pulling, my shots are going to impact low and slightly left. Stands to reason since the tuning was done while continuing to pull.
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Somebody tell me how I keep this "expansion" thing from just turning into an overdraw! I've got the video, I think Rod rocks, I've watched it over and over but I just can't make it work for me.
I'll add here that I shoot pretty good already...
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ttt
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Quinn...expansion doesn't need to actually move the string rearward in any large amount but to keep rearward tension on the string during the release phase... a fraction of an inch is plenty.....try this at anchor( hate that phrase) simply use back tension to move the draw side elbow to the left ( RH shooter) that's the trick..expansion is not a rearward movement, only a movement of the elbow via back tension....let the subconscious decide when its gonna stop holding the string, while your aiming and expanding!
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Thank you Rod, I'm gonna try it again.
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Excellent tip, been working on this for the last couple of days. Hopefully will get to the point where it becomes automatic...tks
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I like the tip. I have always tried to do this as part of reaching back tension,the shoot is pulled through and just with go off natural. Thats how I can best descibe it. It helps my shoot excution and follow through alot. When I can do this I shoot much better,and always have my best arrow flight too.
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I read this tip from Terry and the first two groups I shot from 25 yards, either the arrows were touching or the fletching was. I've tryed this several times sence and can't seem to get it right. I've changed somthing but I can't figure out what. This method really does work but I need to figure out what I was doing in the beginning! HELP! Jason
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Jason, one of the things I have found so satisfying (frustrating) about trad shooting is the almost infinite number of times I "have it all figured out". Then I go out the next day to shoot "exactly the way I did yesterday" and somehow something is different. Presumably that is what blank bale is supposed to do - groove in the shot. The trouble I have found with that is that all it takes is one small thing (that I may not even be aware of while blank bale shooting) and it throws me off 6 inches at 20 yards. I seem to need the feedback of seeing where my arrow is going (missing?) to keep my form correct. When it is going well I don't even have to really focus on any part of it, but when it isn't, I focus on all parts and still have difficulty putting it all together. The thing I have done recently that seems to help the most is establishing a shot sequence (mental checklist) with each shot. I still do the blank bale and the formaster and everything else everyone talks about for back tension, etc., but some days it is still not as consistent as I would like. I have found it to be true that focus on a spot on the target is very important,too, but if my form is flawed I can focus on a spot until hell freezes over and I still won't hit it. Incidentally, I like your Frost quote, but I like to add a couple of words from Forrest Gump - "S#!t happens, life goes on".
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Greg, Darn Toot'n! Jason
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Observation : We should be comfortable with the draw weight of our bows, I believe this..but just how comfortable?
This is a very very good tip (that being the overworked exhausted complacent good shot I am), :saywhat: , do all too infrequently.
My long winded observation is that when shooting a bow that is just a little too heavy, say 5lb my release is lovely, yes because I AM usually still pulling through..not to say I am releasing early. Anyone else experience this.
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Great advice, would like to add that when pulling the arrow back, imagine a straight line to the target - pull the arrow along that same straight line then let the mind work on the elevation.