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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: Flying Dutchman on July 22, 2010, 02:22:00 PM
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Hello guys,
let me start first. I shoot twice a week at my archers range: at tuesday evening and sundaymorning.
Tuesday we get one hour training from our coach. Close ranges and he is very keen on your form! I bet he can hear it when you make the slightest mistake....We don't shoot many arrows.
Sunday from 10 till 12 I shoot with 4 fellow archers, we have fun, drink coffee, tell dirty jokes. We shoot mostly at 27 yrds (25 meters) We try to hit a paper of 4 by 4 inches.Last Sunday I hitted it twelve times. We shoot some more arrows, let's say 100.
Then I have a shed were I can train. It is only a 3 minutes drive and it is BIG. Here I train at 16, 22, 27,33, 38 and 44 yards. (15, 20, 25, 30, 35 and 40 meters). I train the different distances beacuse I am into 3D. I try to do this on monday, wednesday and friday morning and even saterday if the wife hasn't planned anything.
Here I shoot many arrows, 100 the least but mostly some more, even as much as 250 per session. I shoot at a target with a small yellow circle with a diameter of 5 inches. Even on 44 yards I hit it frequently now, let's say always 2 out of 6 and sometimes even more. The other arrows are mostly close.
The training in the shed is very intensive. Because nobody is there, I can concentrate very good. I like it a lot, it's like meditation....
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Weekly, I:
1. Hit the treadmill 45 minutes 3X's per week, 7 miles total, 1350 calories total burned.
2. Strength Train 2X's per week.
3. SPT's 1/2 hour 5X's per week.
4. Formaster, 100 shots per week.
5. Blank Bail, 100 shots per week.
6. Target Shoot 2X's per week 200 arrows total.
7. Stretch before and after each session.
I also inclde nutrition, rest, and reading as part of training.
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Every now and then I shoot a few arrows....that's about it. I like to keep it simple.
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Did you ever watch Rocky 4 thats pretty much how I train.I watch it at least once a week :laughing: and shoot at least a dozen arrows a day,depending on my work schedule.
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I try to shoot one arrow abot 20-30 times at varying ranges almost every evening after work. I shoot my BW and my selfbows. I think thats why I hit about 8-10 inches high with the BW I guess.
I try to hit the weights and run twice a week. "TRY" being the operative word there.
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Originally posted by lpcjon2:
Did you ever watch Rocky 4 thats pretty much how I train.I watch it at least once a week :laughing: and shoot at least a dozen arrows a day,depending on my work schedule.
That'll change once you get moved down here where it's 100 degrees and 98% humidity everyday
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I watch hunting shows and drink beer ;)
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I shoot pretty much every day, lift some weights and walk a lot. That's about it. I figure that's enough for a 58 year old kid.
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1 walked 6.5 miles, today shot bow yesterday, going fishing ,tonight it is to hot to f rt.I started walking at the mall ,near 100 degrees,air conditioned there,,it is all old farts there...oh no I am a old fart myself 64 last week...
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I shoot an hour or so everyday.. Rarely shoot outside, mostly in my basement. Dont keep track of how many arrows. I dont shoot every arrow I draw back to anchor either. A lot of times I just concentrate on my spot, draw the bow to anchor, hold it and let it down. If I do this enough it seems to keep the target panic away.... Once the evil summer is over, I will start beating up on my 3D targets in the yard.
Or I use Hookeyes method when its just to hot out!
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Actually, the heat doesn't bother me. I shoot about 50 arrows total every other day, on a blacktop parking lot with no shade, when we don't have customers.
I get maybe 15 or so before somebody rolls up.
I need more time without interruption, to work on longer distances, or to go home and shoot. I gotta make a backstop to not pop a hole in my pristine garage door, should I get some time for home shooting.
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I shoot 10 strings of 3 arrows at a Nerf ball I throw around the pasture. Don't know what distances I'm shooting at.
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I dont have a set practice regimen. I usually dont shoot more than 4-5 at any given time, sometimes spaced out as much as a few weeks. The key is to do each shot right...think it through, make it happen, and repeat. You can shoot 500 a day, and if they are bad shots with bad form, you will still be a poor shot. If you really strive for a consistent shot sequence, and stick to it, it shouldnt matter if you dont or cant shoot every day. Just my humble opinion...
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This is my training scheduale.
Noch arrow to heavy bow, draw heavy bow, shoot arrow at target, miss the target, look for arrow in woods, get pissed off and throw stuff around.
Repeat 10 times.
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I try to shoot every day. 50-100 arrows, bow weight depends on what feels good. Mostly - 90% of time with a 70# Hill. H
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I shoot almost every day, sometimes twice or more. The only arrow that's important is that first one.If that's good I go finish my coffee!!
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I shoot one arrow 20 or 30 times in the evening after work. I'll 'pull' my bow 3 reps of 10 when I put my dog out for the night. Lots of hiking and kayaking all summer.
joe
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I just picked the bow back up recently and have been giving the one arrow thing a go for now. I shoot about 25-30 times a day at different ranges.
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Some times I shoot after work and sometimes I don't. Go ground squirrel shooting once ,twice maybe three times a week. Get on the PC look at hunting sights.This one and one other.Snack ,TV , snack some more.Go fix arrows up.
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i never practice to be practicing,i shoot just for the love of shooting.kind of goes hand in hand.
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I am on Raging Waters routine.
Shoot arrow,miss target,look for arrow,break arrow,bang head on tree,cuss just loud enough that neighbors cant hear me.Rinse and repeat and retire for the day.
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Lately I have been mixing it up.
I start with target work where I try to put it all together. My concentration is best during my first few shots. Maybe 6 or a little more.
After that I work on form up close and worry little about the groups and more about the mechanics. I even shoot with my eyes closed from time to time. Maybe 20 - 30 or so shots.
Then I throw some plastic bottles / cups around on the ground (and a deflated football I found) and just walk around shooting at them. Sort of stumping, but not in the woods. Since I only use one arrow for this and walk alot I would guess no more than 30 shots.
After that some longer range shooting. 30-50 yards. Not that I would shoot that far while hunting, but it's fun and it makes 20 or less yards seem SO close. It gives me a lot of confidence and there is nothing like watching that arc. About 12-18 shots.
Then I finish up with 12-18 shots back where I started. Trying for nice groups to end the day on.
On the weekends I like to add some real stump shooting (no football or plastic bottles).
So, somewhere around 80-100 shots a day. Maybe more if I am feeling it, maybe less if I am not.
And some days it rains.
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Whump Sez; I guess I should ask what are you training for--target archery or hunting? If you are training for hunting I would eliminate any spots ,circles,or aiming points on the target. Shoot a blank target and try to place your shot where you envision the heart lung area is located on the animal you intend to hunt. Shooting targets with spots on them is a big reason people have trouble picking a spot on a live animal. Make it a point to shoot your first arrow like your survival depends on it[never take the first shot for granted]. If you stay on your stand hunting until last light you had better practice shooting at that exact time of day; low light changes everything as far as your depth perception and aiming. Don't over do it, just take a few shots each day or every other day and go for the gold on the first arrow. I don't want to bring you down with a lot of serious shooting practice but shoot over a few or gut shoot an animal at last light and the words of the Whumpster will hang heavy on the white mans ears. What I just posted is my routine. Enjoy yourself and hang in there dude. Hunt safe.
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Originally posted by PAPA BEAR:
i never practice to be practicing,i shoot just for the love of shooting.kind of goes hand in hand.
I am with Papa Bear on this one. When I was trying to jump from my second heaviest bow 85# at 28" to my heaviest bow 102# at 28", I had to make it fun.
When I first got the 102# I could not get it to anchor. In the evenings I would draw the bow 1/2 to 3/4 to anchor while watching TV. I would draw it when I felt like it and then set it down. But, in the back of my mind, I was trying to draw it 30 times per TV show. Then I took a day off, and did the routine again. After a week, I spent my time shooting a stuff. My target, basket ball, whatever. Then, I would take a break for a day or two.
Long story short, 2 1/2 weeks after getting the bow I could draw to full anchor. That is a 17# jump in weight.
If I had made it "work" I think it would have taken longer. It was fun.
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Originally posted by Raging Water:
This is my training scheduale.
Noch arrow to heavy bow, draw heavy bow, shoot arrow at target, miss the target, look for arrow in woods, get pissed off and throw stuff around.
Repeat 10 times.
That's funny!!!
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Love to shoot my heavy bow, one arrow per round for about 50 shots total.
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Training??!!! I went through potty training a long time ago. Is it kind of like that?
Once I trained a dog to stay in the truck, which was pretty easy really since I couln't keep him out of it.
I think practicing for bowhunting is too much fun to be called "training". That makes it sound like work and I already have a job!
I guess I "train" by making around 250 small game arrows a year then shooting them at squirrels.
What exactly am I training for BTW?
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I have dropped nearly 20lbs by eating less, walking 2 miles and biking 2 miles daily. I also lift very light weights with high reps 3 times weekly.
I can shoot in my basement when it is too hot or too cold. In the basement I can only shoot about 8 yards though.
When shooting, I like to shoot 1 arrow at a time from various spots, angles and distances. For some reason I shoot better if I know I am just shooting that 1 arrow. I am sure it is a subconscious thing. I also shoot 3D as much as possible since that is my end goal(hunting). My deer target(vital area and front leg) is really hurting right now. Not much left.
I always end on a perfect shot, regardless of distance required to get it. Finally, I only shoot 12-20 shots so I don't get tired and can focus on form.
I am not Rick Welch, but I do okay. I just need to stop shaking when a live critter comes along I plan to shoot! Even a squirrel....go figure.
Oh yeah, I make sure at least one shot is 60-70 yards because it is fun. Do that enough times, even one shot at a time, and you will be suprised how often you hit where you want.
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I'm 61 and my training is shooting...I probably average 125 shots a day. It really all depends. I shoot off my deck when the weather is good and in the basement when it's not. I have times when I will shoot everyday for weeks and sometimes I take off a few days.
I come from the school that the only way you get better is by practicing...I love shooting and I shoot all kinds of bows, 90% trad, 10% other. Shooting is never practice for me, it just FUN!!!
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I usually shoot every other night about 12-30 arows from 12-30 yards. Try to ride my bike a minimum of 3 miles a day from now until hunting season. 6 miles is the usual, I find it helps me out a lot in the mts. At 62 my knees give me a bad time if I try to jog.
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I just try to shoot everyday dont matter how many arrows i shoot as long as im shooting
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i try to shoot everyday probably about 25-50 shots at about 10 yards, (still all i feel comfortable trying) i start with standing for about 10-15 shoots then i do the same amount from a kneeling position, and have started shooting from the top of the deck down. The deck is about 10 feet up, i guess its a redneck attempt at simulating a treestand.
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Until I mastered proper form I shot only on the basement range (began in December) from 7 yards at first and then 14 yards after a couple of months. I was shooting 12-60 arrows. By March I was shooting multiple times daily, sometimes as many as 200 shots, again mostly from 14 yards, indoors. Then I began going to 3-D shoots and shooting on my 3-D trail. A couple of weeks ago I noticed some nuisance pain in my pectoral muscles and some time a stiff drawing hand. I laid off for 3 days. I felt stronger and without pain when I started shooting again. For fun and relaxation, I prefer to shoot every day but I think I'm better off shooting 60-150 arrows one day and taking the next day off.
Before I shoot I go through a couple of minutes of isometrics with a String BOw (loop of string at my draw length) or by hooking the fingers of my bow and draw hand and simulating drawing the bow against force.
If I detect mental discomfort or my shots aren't feeling "right" I will go back to 7 yards and shoot while concentrating only on the feel of the proper shot. I "got" target panic in 1981 after about 15 years of shooting. The panic got progressively worse until in 1995 I wounded two animals because of "jerking" the shot off. I switched to lefthand shooting in 1996 (I'm left eye dominant anyway) and learned to shoot all over again. Now I know what causes panic and have no fear I'll ever have the problem again. This shooting only shots that "feel" right and coaching myself with positive language and thoughts is the key to maintaining a proper mental attitude about shooting.
Have any of you found that alternating days shooting has any impact on your shooting like I seem to have found? It makes sense from a weight training aspect because I remember our track coach always had us work one group one day and another muscle group another day.
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I shoot a couple times a week, and almost every day prior to the hunting season. 10-30 yards, or anything in-between at a tennis ball, or tufts of grass. Till I'm tired and I lose focus, which may be 20 shots, or 50, depending upon the day and mood I'm in. Shooting the bow is enough exercise. It feels heavy in the spring, but after a few weeks I'm toned up and it pulls easy.
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I guess that shooting is practicing, as long as you try to make your shots count.
I shoot prety much every day. The amount of arrows varies. If I am shooting well I shoot less than if I'm not. I vary the distances of my shots. When it is fun, I shoot until I feel like quitting, and when it is not, I stop and go back the next day.
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I'm on the typical heart surgery life-long rehab plan for exercise: 45 minutes of aerobics per day and light weights 3 times per week -- unless I can get out of it!
I like to shoot 3 sessions per day, but am not tied to it. If the temperature is over 100 I just shoot mornings and evenings. I do a minimum 30 shots per session, but may extend that if I'm feeling good. A normal day I will shoot about 150 shots.
I have a series of 7 targets set up around our property, up and down, wooded and cleared. I can get as much as 350 yds from my pasture target, but have never tried that. I walk to a different spot approaching each target. I usually don't go over 65 yds or under 25.
I shoot for fun - archery got me through some tough times, and I feel like something is wrong if I don't shoot pretty much every day. Wish I felt the same about the exercise.
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I am trying to shoot at least 3 times per week. Usually, I only shoot 30 - 50 arrows. It is just too hot to stay out for very long. I don't have a basement or a local indoor range.
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I don't have a routine. Some days I'll shoot about 100 arrows morning, noon and evening. Some days I'll shoot about 100 twice a day and some days none. Most of the time I shoot the twice a day.
To get in shape I roam the woods and hills looking for new areas.