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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: droptine82 on October 03, 2010, 06:16:00 PM
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I have been battling nock point. Have been bare shafting and starting at 1/2 high. Impact low, move down. impact low, move down. etc.... never got better then all of a sudden worse. Finally started at 1 inch above. ends up I am close but not perfect at 13/16 above. I am tired and cant shoot consistant enough to do anymore. Does anyone else that shoots 3 under have this high of a nock point?
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I have 35 bows,most like 5/8 to 3/4 but I do have two or three that are 1".hope this helps.
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Should we assume you're shooting fletched arrows and bare shafts together (group tuning)?
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Yes I shoot them together. I was referring to my bare shafts grouping lower than fletched arrows. I now have them pretty close but I was just wondering if 13/16 above was normal. Thanks Big Bird for the info!
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13/16ths seems a bit high to me. Sometimes stiff arrows will act as you have described. What length and type of shafts are you shooting? How about your draw length and weight of bow?
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Carbon Express Heritage 350 full length with 100 grain brass insert and 200 grain point so a total of 300 up front. I draw 31 inches and my A&H ACS is marked 49@28. I figure I am pulling around 57-58. I have not checked it cause to me it does not matter. I shot 350 up front and it showed weak spine so I back off to 200 and impact of bare groups is now identical or slightly right indicating perfect/slightly weak. If i lower the nock point lower than about 9/16 it starts to kick up and the lower I go the more it kicks.
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Interesting. If you're getting right (slightly weak) you are indeed spot on. You're broadheads should fly perfectly. Looks like your outfit likes 13/16ths.
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Depends on where you anchor, I anchor with my index in the corner of my mouth. My nock is 1/8 to 1/4, my arrows fly great. But then again every bow is different,
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Explain why where you anchor makes a difference. I thought it was trying to find the point where the arrow flew off the same as with feathers. And that should work at any anchor in my mind. IE some people anchor at diffent places for different distances. And I am not disagreeing just want to understand so correct me where I am wrong! Thanks
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Look at the thread entitled 2 nocking points for three under(something like that) started on oct 4 shows 2 video clips of arrows actually sliding down the string after the shot . that could be the reason for a high nock point . arrow actually sliding to correct height !
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I use 2 nock points and 13/16ths is what my bow likes. I read that last year and started doing it and it really tightened up my groups. Now i just need to learn to tie in my nock points cause I have a bad habit of getting in the strindg sometimes and cutting my nose with the nock. But thanks anyway huntnfool62!
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After reading all this how would one know ehere to put the nock. :dunno:
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When shooting bareshafts with fletched arrows for group tuning, don't worry about the bareshaft "kicking" up or down. It's all about how well the two group together. It's my favorite way of tuning arrows for trad. Oh, btw, I use the method described on O.L. Adcock's website.
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I start at 1/2 inch high and that seems to work on most of my longbows. I did have one that required a 3/4 inch nocking point.
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BTW, when shooting 3 under you really need a nock point both above and below your arrow nock.
It will help.
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3 under @ 7/8" above square.I use two dental floss nock points.
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For me shooting 2 under. All of the bows are between 7/8" and 1and1/16" high.
Some of the guys that I shoot with say that it is way to high. Then they watch the arrows fly and then how high my nocks are is not that big of a deal..
IMHO do what needs to be done to get the flight you want and do not worry about what everone else is doing...
Later.....Buzz
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I have had the best luck starting at 3/4 to 7/8" above 90 to start, then I don't have to worry about starting out to low.
What you will end up at will depend on several different variables, tiller, arrow spine, finger placement and pressure on the string......just try it out and do what works for you, everybody can be different.
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I have been playing with bare shaft tuning lately and everything i try on 4 different bows with 3 sizes of aluminum and two different carbons, weight added and no weight added up front hits severe nock left. i shoot 27" draw and right about 50-53# from all of my bows with 3 under, but yet my fletched arrows hit perfectly straight. I was reading an article here i think by adcock but not sure that eventually said we should really be more concerned with where the fletched arrow hits since that is what we really shoot and at that point i gave up. Any input would be apprieciated