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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: dutch the deadly on October 06, 2010, 12:23:00 PM
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one is more instinctive? the other is better suited for "aiming" and gap shooting?? it's only a "feel" thing???? for those who have done both or are dedicated to one or the other...what is the difference and which is "better" / not trying to start WWIII...just really don't know. tks
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Thats a decision each of us would make. Some may like the arrow posistion in regards to their eye, some may like the feel of the shaft above their fingers rather than splitting them. Its a personal preference and what works for each shooter best.
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The difference is having a fletching in the corner of your eye :biglaugh: .I shoot split it's the way I learned and will always shoot.I like to feeeeel my inner chi taking over the shot. :archer2:
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I started out shooting split but recently switched to 3-under. Totally eliminated and chance of pinch. I feel like my release is more smooth as well. I don't think I'll be changing back.
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I tried 3 under.
Made me nervous having that arrow so close to my eye.
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I started shooting split for over two years. I tried 3 under a few times and just did not like it. After missing both deer I shot at last season I switched to 3 under over the winter. For some reason it felt good this time. My groups were better and I stuck with it. Got my first trad turkey the last day of spring season & got a bear this fall. Seems to be working for me, but like stated it is really personal for each.
Good luck.
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I've shot both ways. In fact, I used to shoot 2 fingers under. Now I shoot split, but not because it is better. Just got used to shooting that way. "They" say that a bow should be tillered for 3 under because more stress will be put on the lower limb and the limb timing can be thrown off, etc. I think it's easier to line up, aim, gap (whatever you want to call it) your arrow when you shoot 2 or 3 under. It's easier to get the arrow under your eye IMO, when shooting under vs splint. Either way you shoot, you have to be consistent and practice. Do whatever delivers the arrow where you want it to go. Why do I shoot split then? I don't know.
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Momma says shootin three under is the devil
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Good luck. Split here matches my personality.
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I shoot split because 3 under is not allowed in the longbow class at local 3d' shoots, you have to shoot in the recurve class if you decide to shoot 3under anyway, I wonder why?, silly rule
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Then I MUST Be The DEVIL!! I never Could hit anything split, and I just got used to shooting 3-Under!! That Rule does Suck!!
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Originally posted by stickhead:
Momma says shootin three under is the devil
Hahaha, I thought that was Vickie Valincort Bobby?
Shot 3 under for years. Then got a bow that was tilled for split. Switched and shoot most of my bows that way now. It's all what you get used to. Felt really weird at first but it didn't take long before I knew exactly where the arrows would go and it felt normal again. The big benefit to split over 3 under for me is all bows are quieter shooting them that way.
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Neither is better than the other. Just go with the one that works for you.
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Neither is better than the other. Just go with the one that works for you.
I agree with jonsimoneau. I shoot 3 under but used to shoot split. I switched to 3 under and at first didnt like it so I switched back to split.
Only to try 3 under another time and now it's the way i shoot.
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Go with 3 under, its what jonsimoneau does and you see the deer it lured in? LOL. I shoot 3 under cause it feels good and I like my sight picture better. Just looks good with the pink fletching in my periphery touchin my nose.
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Originally posted by droptine82:
Go with 3 under, its what jonsimoneau does and you see the deer it lured in? LOL. I shoot 3 under cause it feels good and I like my sight picture better. Just looks good with the pink fletching in my periphery touchin my nose.
I recently tried three under. Unfortunately, instead of fletching in my periphery, I ended up with fletching in my eye.
droptine82, in what area of Kansas are you located? I'm Northeast of Wichita.
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I shoot 3 under, but only because of a broken twisted index finger. I anchor with my index in the corner of my mouth, keeps the arrow in the normal position,
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I tried three under for a time with a 50" browning, finger pinch. I went back to longbows and split because I could not rip off an accurate shot fast enough when hunting pheasants and rabbits three under. I think the switch has allowed me to get that fast second arrow into deer that would not have been possible for me with the three under method. Also, index finger at the corner of the mouth three under is about the same arrow to target angle for the eye, as middle finger in line with the corner of the mouth. That does not approach the angle of those that gun barrel their arrow with a very high three under, I do find it amusing when my three under gun barrel aiming friend tells me that it works better and he cannot see the arrow to aim with.
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I shoot three under and always have tried three under and shot ok. I shot in a 3-D shoot today and took second but saw a lot of shooters shooting 3 under. When I was in S.C. longbow shooters could not shoot 3 under so never changed. I did try it today after the shoot and found it to be more comfortable than I remembered and I shot really well especially at 30 yds and beyond. I still just picked a spot and let her go with no thought of aiming. I wish I could use a gap system I have always just looked and let it fly. If anyone can give a little help here I may try it. I understand that this was a method used by the Apache indians is that correct? I am referring to the 3 under shooting by the Apache indians not the gap.
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This really is a "Pepsi or Coke" sort of a deal.
I shot split for a long time and like many, tried 3-under and it didn't click. I went back to split for a while. A finger injury caused me to try 3-under again and it did click. It clicked really well!
Who knows, I may get a wild hair and switch back one of these days.
You can draw with your big toe if you want. If you consistantly hit the mark that way, go for it.
OkKeith
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With 3 under, you'll get less finger pinch..
I can shoot both split and 3under with no problems. The only difference, with split, I anchor with the middle finger to the corner of my mouth.
3 under I anchor with my index finger...
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I analyzed it in my mind when I was starting, I wanted to find the most reliably accurate way to shoot. I could see no realistic advantage in shooting split finger, I could however see a major advantage to having the arrow aligned closer to my eye whether I shot instinctive or not. It just made sense...I figure its what Darwin would have wanted :goldtooth:
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I shoot three under...no particular reason..just like the way it feels. :archer2:
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........I just get a cleaner release every time with 3 under.
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Droptine---???Pink ???
I don't really notice the arrow just concentrate on "the spot" to hit.
Anyway --Apache or Mediteranian?? Too many rules already!! It only matters if you can hit your target. I have shot 3 under since the early '80s but shot split for several years before. Have a Bighorn that G. Fred tillered for 3 under but have also shot and shoot bows not tillered for and notice no difference in accuracy. (same number of misses?!?!) I did notice nock point relocation change to a higher spot.
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I have tried both, and have problems with both. 3 under caused bow noise and hand shock, witch drives me nuts Split finger, is what I learned as a kid, causes callous to form on my index finger on the edge of my finger nail, witch hurt like the devil. I figure split should be the easiest fix, but have not figured it out yet. Have tried all types of gloves, and even tabs with leather flaps that protects the fingers from contacting the nock. Any suggestions, on how to prevent getting the callous.
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I've tried both, but for me three under just feels better and therefore works better. As several have said, neither is inherently better. Go with what feels right to you and enables you to shoot well.
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I tried three under but my arrows kept falling off the string. Mercury nocks, ya see. ;-)
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I shoot both as well as two fingers under on a regular basis and get confused and frustrated.
Then I remember that confused and frustrated is my behavioural baseline, and just continue enjoying flinging arrows.
Relaxed intensity works the best for me in which case the draw hand technique I am using is inconsequential.
DDave
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For me what my bow hand is doing is far more important.
DDave
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Originally posted by KentuckyTJ:
Originally posted by stickhead:
Momma says shootin three under is the devil
Hahaha, I thought that was Vickie Valincort Bobby?
Shot 3 under for years. Then got a bow that was tilled for split. Switched and shoot most of my bows that way now. It's all what you get used to. Felt really weird at first but it didn't take long before I knew exactly where the arrows would go and it felt normal again. The big benefit to split over 3 under for me is all bows are quieter shooting them that way. [/b]
Watching way too much of the Waterboy!
I switched to 3 Under. I found I could draw much heavier bows that way. Plus, I liked having the arrow so close to my eye. I felt I had better control.
However, I watched Hit em' like Howard Hill and have switched back. I feel that "I" am more accurate now that I have switched back to split.
Also, after 3 fingers got my strength up, I still can pull as heavy a bow as I like using split finger.
Tomorrow, I could go back to 3 Under. My suggestion is stick with one for awhile, then switch. See what happens.
Matt
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I shoot Split with Longbow (IFAA\\Fita 3D rules), Split in Trad Recurve (Fita 3D Rules) and 3 under with an ILF Recurve for IFAA Field rounds in Bowhunter Div.
Both aiming methods work but I find 3 under the most accurate\\consistent, I tend to shoot Split finger with Split-vision aiming (unmarked 3D) and 3 under pure Gap (marked Field), I seem to be doing pretty well and enjoy both methods and have no issues swapping between Bows, aiming methods or finger styles. :)
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I recently switched to 3 under because I had a cut on index finger and the pinch was real irritating. I seem more accurate with the 3 under and I really like it.