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Title: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: J-KID on May 21, 2011, 05:21:00 PM
Hi Folks,
I finally updated my page on target panic.  Hopefully I can refer people to this page rather than engage in lengthy email exchanges.  If you suffer from target panic I hope this information helps you.

I've also started a page on shooting tips.

I only frequent a couple forums so please feel free to spread the word and the link to the target panic and shooting tips pages.

   Kidwell\\'s Target Panic Resource (http://www.n-sights.net/iai/target_panic.html)
   Shooting Tips (http://www.n-sights.net/iai/shooting_tips.html)
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: South MS Bowhunter on May 21, 2011, 07:19:00 PM
Thank you sir for the information.
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: Gene R on May 21, 2011, 10:02:00 PM
Thank you Jay, I have been using your training tips from your book and these are really great as well! Thanks for all the help you have given us, it is greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: SaMbO2 on May 22, 2011, 08:56:00 AM
Thanks for your time in posting this!    :thumbsup:  


Thanks and God Bless.
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: Flingblade on May 22, 2011, 12:06:00 PM
Thanks Doc!!  Your drills are just what the doctor ordered for target panic.  I have had great success with the drills and it has put the joy back in shooting.  Can't wait to see your section in MBB 4.
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: McDave on May 22, 2011, 04:15:00 PM
Thanks Jay, for your book, personal help, and now this new resource.  I just watched your section in MBB4 last night.  Seeing and hearing you on the video made me understand some of these concepts better than I've been able to before.
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: kbaamigo on May 24, 2011, 04:51:00 PM
Thanks Jay! You certainly put the enjoyment back into archery for me!!! Use the drills periodically to stay on top of my being in control.
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: J-KID on May 24, 2011, 10:36:00 PM
Thanks everyone for your kind words.  It's great to be able to help a few of you enjoy archery more.

See the original post for a link added for Shooting Tips.  I'll add a video to that page soon and more tips.
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: JWarnken on May 25, 2011, 09:48:00 AM
It's awesome how... the more ways we are presented with similar information.. the better it settles in our minds.  For example... your statement:
"Newton’s Third Law of Motion states that “the mutual forces of action and reaction between two bodies are equal, opposite and collinear.”  Or, morphed into the more intuitive, contemporary phrase, “for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.”
The problem with the contemporary phrase is that it leaves out “collinear” which specifies energy points along a straight line."  

This statement and that word in particular, and Terry's form clock visual have helped me tremendously.  I now have a better sense of when I am shooting "collinearily" (probably not a word, but I like:)  Because of this information, I can better feel when my arms are working together in this line and when they are not.  
Thanks so much,
-Jim
PS- headed out to try your figure 8, plus sign, and slices of pie drills after breakfast.  Suddenly have a craving for some pie though.  Wishing I had some... heated pecan pie at that... with cold vanilla ice cream melting across the top... (suddenly drooling like Pavlov's dog on the keyboard;-)
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: J-KID on May 25, 2011, 10:03:00 AM
Jim,
It's all about figuring out the common denominators. Happy you enjoyed the link.  Speaking of common denominators, I'm thinking about pie too!
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: robertson on May 26, 2011, 06:05:00 AM
hello Jay , we appreciate a lot your help for this problem which affect so many people shooting the bow we like so much.
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: Trumpkin the Dwarf on June 05, 2011, 08:32:00 PM
Thanks so much for those tips! That should help me sooo much!
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: Green on July 25, 2012, 06:52:00 AM
Thought I'd bring this one back to the top.  Thanks Jay for the help shared in this thread and on your webpage.  In the past 6 weeks (after a year of coaching and form improvement), I found myself battling a case of nerves in 3D shoots...which manifested itself as target panic.

There's quite a bit of info here, in your book, and in MBB IV to provide me with drills and direction to work through it daily, and when it bubbles to the surface in competition.  

Thanks Jay!
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: J-KID on July 25, 2012, 07:12:00 AM
You are welcome Rob.  I'm not sure how many people know about the updated webpage.  It does contain the most recent info on dealing with target panic issues.  It is usually the first place I refer people to when they email me about tp issues.  It typically is all they need, and, if they need a bit more help in applying the drills they email me back but that rarely happens.
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: yekrut on July 30, 2012, 05:16:00 PM
thank you so much for this, I
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: Overspined on August 07, 2012, 10:52:00 PM
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  (http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww260/overspined/1db585c7.jpg)
I did a zip tie job with a glove I don't use and used an actual bow and arrow set up to break the cycle of premature release.  I have another bow that I shoot, and switch back and forth to reinforce a conscious decision to shoot. I use the split vision style of shooting and you can see the chipmunk and old target on the ground for point alignment.
I do the figure 8, the +, and the pie technique to try to stop strong on the point, and pull through the release.  It has helped immediately.
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: J-KID on August 08, 2012, 08:24:00 AM
When you have a bad case of premature release, you got-a do what you got-a do!  I had one person use duct tape to secure the string to his shooting hand.  Your method is a little more creative (and civilized).

I'm pleased you are seeing results so rapidly.
Title: Re: Updated Target Panic Resource Plus Shooting Tips
Post by: Overspined on August 08, 2012, 10:54:00 AM
It was really strange, the first draw with that I locked in at full draw, and as soon as the point aligned with the chipmunk I almost released but caught it.  That one instance broke the cycle. I drew and practiced the sight picture and let down several times. Then I shot a few arrows and the urge was under control. Back to the zip tie bow, and so forth.  I ended the session with only the zip tie bow.  It was rewarding.