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Title: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: String Cutter on August 29, 2011, 12:06:00 AM
I have been shooting split fingr for over 10 yrs and never could group very well. Started shooting 3 under and now can see groups..lol Any advice for a new guy shooting 3 under??? Do you really need your bow tillered for it or does it matter???
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: sawtoothscream on August 29, 2011, 12:08:00 AM
i shoot 3 under.  split just feels wrong to me.  a bow tillered for 3 under is nice, but you can still use one not tiller for it. just tune it up and go. just think the nock point has to be  alittle higher
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: Fishycatfish on August 29, 2011, 02:35:00 AM
I like the feel of split more or maybe because it is a little more quiet but I shoot 3 under better so that is what I shoot. I would just keep it up, your groups can only get better.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on August 29, 2011, 03:42:00 AM
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Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: Bowwild on August 29, 2011, 05:55:00 AM
When I first shot recurves (before compounds) I shot split finger. My second round with recurves I'm shooting 3-under. It is more comfortable for me.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: Easykeeper on August 29, 2011, 07:28:00 AM
I'd rather shoot split since it's what I grew up doing and in some ways just feels right.  That said I shoot three under because I just plain shoot better that way, at least at hunting distances.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: Sticks2117 on August 29, 2011, 07:53:00 AM
I shoot split for 15 years until this year. I have switched to 3under and man had it made a difference I can shoot 2-3 groups with no fliers at 25yards i could never do that split finger. It took a lot of practice to get used to but now its lights out on split for me. Oh and all my bows are tillered for split finger, I just played with the brace height to get them as quiet as possible.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: wixwood on August 29, 2011, 11:03:00 AM
I've been shooting 3 under for my 15 +/- years of trad, a carry over from compound days. I tried split fingers at one point some years ago and just couldn't get comfortable. I have acquired most of my bows 2nd hand and have never had a problem tuning any of them to shoot 3 under. It still requires a matched arrow and a good anchor. I prefer a low shelf, just above my grip and a high anchor, middle finger in the corner of my mouth so that I'm looking right down the arrow. Other than that,as always, develop consistant form and let fly.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: razorsharptokill on August 29, 2011, 11:22:00 AM
Shot split since I started as a kid. Tried 3 under several times and couldnt get used to it.

Switched back earlier this year and now shooting split just looks weird. I shoot so much better now. I'm not looking back.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: buckeye_hunter on August 29, 2011, 12:31:00 PM
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Originally posted by Fishycatfish:
I like the feel of split more or maybe because it is a little more quiet but I shoot 3 under better so that is what I shoot. I would just keep it up, your groups can only get better.
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Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: BRITTMAN on August 29, 2011, 12:43:00 PM
I shoot 3 under on all my bows even selfbows tillered split or 3 under it does not matter . Just tune you arrows and you will be ok .
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: longbowben on August 29, 2011, 12:47:00 PM
No your bow doesn't need to be tillierd for 3 under but it does make them more quiet.Im the same way just didn't feel right shooting split and as soon as i switched my groups tightened up big time.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: SERGIO VENNERI on August 29, 2011, 01:10:00 PM
All my recurves are whisper quiet .I have shot 3-under since1982, no regrets! but yes all my Bows are tillered even.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: Onehair on August 29, 2011, 01:29:00 PM
If I could get my bows "whisper quiet", I would shoot 3-under. I do shoot better that was but after a couple days I switch back . The noise drive me nuts. What's the secret ?
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: razorsharptokill on August 29, 2011, 01:58:00 PM
I think that the added noise is annoying but to me I feel that accuracy is more important than noise as the deer can jump the string anyway. With some work the bow can be quieted some more.

I'm shooting better than I ever have.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: SERGIO VENNERI on August 29, 2011, 01:59:00 PM
It's all in the string, the length and the loops have to be perfect in size and length. My string maker is awesome. That simple.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: bentpole on August 29, 2011, 05:48:00 PM
3 under 4 me   :thumbsup:    :archer:    :archer2:
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: Swinestalker on August 29, 2011, 06:34:00 PM
I shoot 3 under. Have some bows tillered for 3 under, some split. They all shoot great.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: redant 60/65 on August 29, 2011, 07:39:00 PM
I switch to three under 5 months ago, my groups are more consistent and my 3-D scores have come up a bunch. It took a little time to get use to but now I can't imagine going back to split finger, wish I would of switched 25 years ago.
I'm with every one else on the tillering just need to do some fine tuning and your good to go. And I really do think the string does make a huge difference on nose.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: Wapiti Chaser on August 29, 2011, 07:42:00 PM
I have been shooting three under for about two weeks now after shooting split for 32 years. I tried split last night and it felt real strange. Only reason I tried it was because the last bow I bought is tillered three under. Must have been in the cards. Can't imagine ever shooting split again of course three weeks ago i could never imagine shooting three under.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: Huntschool on August 29, 2011, 07:53:00 PM
Been there since the late 60's.  Not going back ever.........  I am too old anyway.

Tiller is not that critical..  The noise can be fixed with a bit of experimentation.  Move the knock point, the brace height and the string silencers.  I can get my longbows down to a dead thump.  My curves take a bit more work
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: arrow flynn on August 31, 2011, 08:58:00 PM
im liking it groups are tighter im more o0f a gap shooter now heck you have the arrow in your line of sight the downside is you may be slower on the reload and louder
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: TomBow on September 01, 2011, 04:10:00 PM
I contacted "my bowyer" and we discussed the louder noise when shooting 3 under.  He believes that this might be due to excess finger pressure on the top finger.  He also made the comment about raising the nock point.  Without slow mo video it is hard for me to guage my form as I release 3 under.  I have noticed after lots of shooting over 2 days that I still had callus build up on my pointer finger, as I did when shooting split.  I need to work on evening out the pressure.  Question:  3 under shooters:  have you tweaked your brace height and noticed a difference in quietness?  If so, which way did you go higher or lower on brace?  Thanks.

Have a sooper doop Holiday weekend!
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: Green on September 01, 2011, 04:27:00 PM
Tom - I've been shooting parallel shafts 3 under and had quite a bit of noise.  Yesterday I took delivery of some AD Trad lite shafts which are tapered.  I bareshafted them and that allowed me to lower the nock point about 1/4" and it quieted the bow down.  I also have some tapered POC shafts that I'm in the process of building which are a little heavier and should quiet the bow even more.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: Duggaboy on September 04, 2011, 10:30:00 AM
Started split, changed to 3 under then went back to split for about 2 months just to be sure...and theres no mkore doubt. 3 under from here forward for me.
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: Glenn29 on September 06, 2011, 09:58:00 AM
I too just switched to 3 under after shooting split finger for 9 years. Have not had a problem with any noise or tiller issues. My groups at 20 yards have never been so good.

Does take a little getting use to but I like it...
Title: Re: Who shoots 3 under???
Post by: notdodger on September 09, 2011, 06:04:00 PM
I just switched to 3 under 2 months ago. I tried split again last week for two shots. I never knew there was that much finger pinch before... hehe. Now for me 3 under has more comfort. And my accuracy is better. I shoot aerial targets that way now too. Can't wait untill October 1st now...
Good luck everyone.