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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: jonsimoneau on September 06, 2011, 11:03:00 AM
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Hey Terry, I know you have said it on here before, but can you explain again what you use as an anchor point?
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John...will post later. ....pain to do so on cell phone
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Jon....I use a double anchor...and here's how I get there....
Under normal hunting circumstances I have the bow up already in position to shoot, not like my back yard videos here where I'm swing drawing...but I get there the same no matter what technique I use...
I draw the arrow to ME...I am already set and aiming with my eyes, kinda like when you spot an animal and want to view it from your binos...you keep your eye on the animal and bring the glassed to you....that way the animal is in view through the glass.
I don't draw over or under, just straight back to me and my 'line of sight'.....My thumb base knuckle comes in contact with the corner of my mouth and continues on sliding along my cheek....then my middle finger comes trailing till it contact the corner of my mouth, and it too continues pulling the corner of my mouth rearward till my thumb base knuckle slides behind my jaw under my ear....and the arrow is gone.
I have a 'rotational draw' also....but its all horizontal, and from the front with my bow held up in position, there is very little movement for game to spot and allows for ONE fluid uninterrupted motion to anchor and execution.
My thumb and pinky are tucked inside toward the palm of my hand, but there is no tension what so ever on them....they are just relaxed.
I know I shoot fast, but I am 'on target' before I even draw so there's no need for me to stop, pause, or hold unless the game dictates.
Being that the arrow doesn't leave till my thumb base knuckle slides behind my jaw assures that I always obtain back tension and proper alignment. And, this alignment occurs no matter the position or cant the shot requires. This insures that my draw length is always the same. The old saying that 'canting the bow shortens your draw length' does not apply to those that are properly aligned. (This is demonstrated in 'The Bowhuneters of Trad Gang' DVD)
I think that's pretty detailed....but if not, ask away.
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Demo of One Motion - Click Here (http://www.tradgang.com/videos/tg/tgshot91.wmv)
Close Up (http://tradgang.com/videos/terry12.wmv)
Results... (http://tradgang.com/videos/tg/m27.wmv)
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Thank you very much Terry. Great explanation.
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Thanks Terry :archer:
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Hey Terry, would you mind if I posted a video on this thread of me trying to shoot like you? I've tried to mimic your style before and couldn't get it, then I read this and something about the thumb coming in contact with the corner of the mouth made it click. First three shots I tried at 20 yards were touching (and I don't do that very often). Anyways back to the question. Is that cool with you if you critique me trying your style?
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Heck no I don't mind....Have at it!!!
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Ok Terry so this is me shooting after a couples weeks of practice. I'm still not the most consistent, ie one three shot group all arrows are touching then the next three shot group are in a 6 inch group at 20 yards. So I'm shooting better than before but I was wondering if you could point out any weak spots in my form. I'm sure I have quite a few. Thanks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzmcm6WCEBQ
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Posting from cell.....nice smooth shot.....will view on monitor in a bit.
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Looking pretty good to me....are you 'cozy' with your anchor or is it just a light kiss?
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I would say a light kiss. Like you as soon as that thumb knuckle drops behind my jaw bone its gone.
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OK....try and make a little more 'solid' contact...don't be afraid to cozy up a bit.
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Ok thanks Terry! I'll give that a shot for a couple weeks and let you know how it works out. Thanks again!
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Terry, ALWAYS learn from you. Thank you. Snakebit40, you look great! So young and such good form!
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Thank you fmscan! I'm working really hard at it and hope to shoot half as good as Terry one day.
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TERRY THAT WAS GREAT!!!
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Amazing! trailing the thumb and then the finger across the mouth to anchor on the farside of the jaw instantly stabilized my shot from 5m! Although the consistency of being at the same spot is helping here, I think The act of this "tactile" strategy definitely helps me focus as well.
Great question, great answer... thanks for posting!
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Terry>>>Excellent and vivid explanation!!
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Terry, The shooting is great but, getting your wife to run the camera is incredible! lol
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Yeah....she's the best!!!
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Sorry about jumping on this post but....
Terry, thanks for the thorough explanation on your double anchor. I've started incorporating it into my form just yesterday and I noticed right away that it felt more "solid" than just my single anchor. Only thing for me is that my shots are going low and right now. Not much mind you, but its there. I just went out and shot a little bit more this morning and it seemed to be getting a little better than it was yesterday but still a hair low and right? Any ideas?
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That is almost an exact copy of how I shoot.
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thanks for the video
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Originally posted by Brad Arnett:
Sorry about jumping on this post but....
Terry, thanks for the thorough explanation on your double anchor. I've started incorporating it into my form just yesterday and I noticed right away that it felt more "solid" than just my single anchor. Only thing for me is that my shots are going low and right now. Not much mind you, but its there. I just went out and shot a little bit more this morning and it seemed to be getting a little better than it was yesterday but still a hair low and right? Any ideas?
Actually figured this out for myself today after a bunch of shooting. I was concentrating on getting to that second anchor and it actually increased my draw length a hair. So what was going on is that instead of fully engaging my back muscles I was drawing more with my arm right at the end of the shot sequence. That it turn pulled my left shoulder, and consequently my bow arm, to the right and slightly down.