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Title: Can't figure out whats wrong?????
Post by: T Lail on January 27, 2012, 03:00:00 PM
I am shooting a 60" 51# at my draw length. Harrellson 3 peice take down recurve.....the problem that I have is  that I constantly shoot low.....my groups are tight( softball size at 18 yards) arrows touch at 10 to 12 yards, but I still shoot low...have moved nock point all over the place and worked with brace height too...my arrows are the same ones that I have shot for months.....ANY info/advise would help....  :dunno:  Right now I am braced at 7 3/4 " and nock point is 1/8 high........  :dunno:
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Post by: Swiftspeed10 on January 27, 2012, 03:01:00 PM
aim higher =).  Try playing playing with different arrow spines.  Are you shooting split or 3 under?
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Post by: lpcjon2 on January 27, 2012, 03:01:00 PM
How is your form are you lifting your head upon release,ask someone to watch you shoot.
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Post by: JamesKerr on January 27, 2012, 03:09:00 PM
I always shoot low and left if I don't get my eye over the arrow.
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Post by: T Lail on January 27, 2012, 03:12:00 PM
I am shooting split finger....I thought about head lift but two people have watched me shoot, and say form looks good....I am going through old arrows to see if I can find any issues....thanks......
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Post by: mcgroundstalker on January 27, 2012, 03:13:00 PM
I'm gonna guess you have been at this trad stuff for a while and are:

Just having a bad day...
Not following through and droppin' your bow...
Not reaching anchor, aka short drawing...

Don't beat yourself up over it. Take a day off from shooting.

... mike ...
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Post by: BOHO on January 27, 2012, 03:14:00 PM
try raising the rest on the shelf. put something thicker under it or maybe slide a toothpick or something under the leather or whatever you have on the shelf. maybe a piece of double sided tape on the shelf itself and stick a piece of velcro to that. just thinking as Im typing.  :)
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Post by: T Lail on January 27, 2012, 03:15:00 PM
I thought it may be a bad day, but this has been going on all week.....I may lay it down a day or two and "try and get my mind right"...
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Post by: John Nail on January 27, 2012, 03:46:00 PM
tilt the bow a little
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Post by: YORNOC on January 27, 2012, 03:53:00 PM
RELAX!!!!!! Top shooters in the IBO circuit who have form down pat experience ups and downs.  Chill out, take a breather and try again. If you've been spot on before, you'll easily get there again.
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Post by: Covey on January 27, 2012, 04:27:00 PM
My best advice is to look at Terry Green's form clock. I had been shooting for several years and was doing perty decent. Then I got to hearing about a double anchor. If anything has helped me it has been a consistant anchor.Up,down,left and right all got better when I figured out my anchor. Now that I have a handle on the mechanics of the shot, I can figure out what i need to do to correct my shot. I not saying everything is gonna be perfect but it will get better. You might try looking at this!
 http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=003278
JMHO! Jason
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Post by: Jeff Strubberg on January 27, 2012, 04:32:00 PM
What's the temperature like there?  It's real easy to drop a little draw length when it gets cold.
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Post by: T Lail on January 27, 2012, 04:44:00 PM
Jeffery, it was actually sunny and 58 degrees today........
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Post by: GRS on January 27, 2012, 05:23:00 PM
Dang Tony!! Are you really THAT worried about next week's club shoot?   :laughing:  Seriously, depending on where they were standing, it can be hard for an observer to catch you creeping a little at release. Just a thought.

Gerald
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Post by: huntingarcher on January 27, 2012, 05:51:00 PM
I may have read it incorrect,but did you say you are nocked 1/8".Is that from square,every thing I have and I have a bunch, is nocked 1/2 to 5/8".Just sounds 1/8" is way low even for split finger.I think that would send your arrows tail high which might be sending them low.I only know what works for me.
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Post by: Earl E. Nov...mber on January 27, 2012, 06:17:00 PM
Don't drop your Bow hand?? Don't creep at full draw?? Hold your bow hand higher??? Stand closer???
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Post by: David Yukon on January 27, 2012, 07:52:00 PM
Yornoc got it!! If nothing change in your set up, you should shoot at the same place as before... So, relax, take your time, get close to your target, like 5 yards or so... not that I'm an expert, far from there, but that worked for me and I read some where the same suggestion... It cost nothing to try it!!
Have fun.
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Post by: David Yukon on January 27, 2012, 07:56:00 PM
""have moved nock point all over the place and worked with brace height too...my arrows are the same ones that I have shot for months.....ANY info/advise would help....   Right now I am braced at 7 3/4 " and nock point is 1/8 high........ ""

Do you know what was your original set up? if yes, put your set up back where it was... and if you have to make changes, just make one change at the time and right it down, so you can go back if you have to!
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Post by: T Lail on January 27, 2012, 09:59:00 PM
Gerald, the pressure is immense !!!! This just started this week, so I need to work on it .....   :banghead:
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Post by: lpcjon2 on January 27, 2012, 10:19:00 PM
Go back to shooting at a blank target,focus on every aspect of form.
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Post by: T Lail on January 28, 2012, 09:06:00 AM
thanks to all......  :archer:
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Post by: turkeyslayer on January 28, 2012, 06:06:00 PM
When i stretch out to much on my draw,my bow shoulder moves upward & inward & causes me to shoot low left,& most of the time i don't even realize that im doing it,till after a few missed shots.
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Post by: Shakes.602 on January 28, 2012, 06:19:00 PM
Are you "Twitterpated" about Losing Arrows?? When I first started, I lost 2 Dozen Arrows in about 30 Minutes!! I learned to Shoot Low to avoid such Costly Mistakes!
   The True way to Not lose an Arrow is to ashoot Indoors for awhile, at least until you get some Confidence. Just a Thought!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: charles suttles on January 28, 2012, 08:12:00 PM
Tony, a simpl.e solution would probably be to lower the target since you have tried everything else.
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Post by: T Lail on January 29, 2012, 05:51:00 PM
I shot today , went back to my original brace height, nocking point and stance.......drilled probally 25 shots from 10 yards out to 25 yards and I came in the house......I may be over thinking the whole process.....my daughter and son in law says my form , follow through, etc. looks the best it has for a while.....I may be lifting my head or something and not even realizing it.....but for at least today, I shot MUCH better...thanks to all for the help....
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Post by: SAVIOUR68 on January 29, 2012, 07:08:00 PM
Hang in there T Lail i myself over think a tiny shootin problem at times and it is all due to being tired and not shootin with a clear mind, take a break for a couple days and come back with a vengenous.