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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: LongStick64 on July 04, 2013, 06:02:00 PM
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I've recently added a new step to my shot sequence since I know I tend to creep a little bit at the shot. Once I settle in on target I maintain my back tension but push a small bit towards the target. I have found this has kept me in a stronger position in the release and follow through, also eliminates the tendency to drop the bow arm. I have to thank Ron Laclair, I was watching the Masters of the Bare Bow and he mentions doing so as he describes his shot. Figured it was worth a try to eliminate the creep or drop.
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IMHO, it also helps "righties" avoid shooting left. A pull w/o a stabilizing push will torque the bow to the left upon release causing the arrow to go left. I find this more evident when shooting a lighter longbow as opposed to a heavy mass recurve which is more forgiving.
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Makes sense, since I shoot longbows it does help with the lighter mass weight.
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When I do this I have a tendency to roll my bow arm shoulder forward which has caused shoulder pain in the past. If I focus on pushing forward I can actually gain about an inch of draw length but my shoulder is rolled out rather than locked back and I don't have back tension on the bow arm side, rather I am using shoulder muscles. How do you all push forward without rolling the shoulder forward and losing back tension on the bow arm side?
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I think the goal is to have your shoulders aligned pointing toward the target, as in Terry's form clock. For me, it takes a little pushing with my bow arm side to accomplish this. A little more pushing, and I might roll my shoulder too much, as you describe.
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Well the push is slight, if you are rolling your shoulder you are exaggerating the push.
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Yep, I exaggerated the push for years shooting with my shoulder rolled out. Had a bad tendency to drop my bow arm too. Didn't cause pain in the shoulder until after a couple years shooting my 70 lb. Hill that way. Now I lock back the shoulder and engage the rhomboid muscle and try to hold the bow steady. I'll try the slight push toward target. Thanks for the tip.
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my definition of definition of proper alignment is all of your energy going directly to wards and away from the target from your power points which is your your bos wrist and your elbow.
I go into great detail about that in the Trad Gang DVD and some information is on the form clock featured at the top of this forum.
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I brought this up due to the overwhelming advice shooters get in pulling, that we sometime forget to push. As in pulling you do not want to push or pull yourself out of alignment. If you ever watch a real target pro on the olympic circuit, they need to pull through the clicker, yet it is impossible to see them move.
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I'm no instructor and only offer help when asked but its the 1st thing I say to people,, push toward the kill spot. I think with me it helps with follow through so when I see someone moving anything upon release I recommend that to give them something else to do after release. so push the bow until the arrow hits,, it works for most I ask to try it.
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Hope Str8shooter doesn't mind me posting his video but it really clarified some things for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGWz6H7MPgg
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I think it was one of Asbell's books that helped put "push" into my shot sequence. It seems to help all around, even with focus on the spot.
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I try to think of the push as "positive forward pressure on the bow" rather than a push. This seems to stop me from exaggerating the push. Whatever you call it, it works