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Title: canting question
Post by: nhbuck1 on May 08, 2016, 07:24:00 PM
ok so i was out shooting today and i was canting my recurve before and i was not as consistent. i tried shooting the bow vertical and my groups shrank quite a bit like alot. my question is why is this so? i shoot instinctive but my release and everything felt really good. Is this because i use back tension more? please critique. i would like to see who hunts with a cant on there bow or not.
thanks alot guys also will this mess me up with a longbow?
kyle
Title: Re: canting question
Post by: slowbowjoe on May 08, 2016, 07:37:00 PM
Curious to hear answers here too-I've been experiencing the same thing, except on closer shots, and out of ordinary shooting positions in the woods.
Title: Re: canting question
Post by: nhbuck1 on May 08, 2016, 07:43:00 PM
just hope it wont effect my hunting out of treestands and whatnot.
Title: Re: canting question
Post by: Orion on May 08, 2016, 07:50:00 PM
Could just be the "I shoot better when I try something new/different" effect.  Probably easier to keep a lower drawing arm elbow, which gets more back into the draw and torques the string less with a vertical bow. That should increase accuracy.

I cant about 10-15 degrees or so. Doesn't affect my accuracy vis-à-vis a vertical bow, not that I can tell anyway.  No reason you can't do both.  A close shot out of a tree stand might require a cant.
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Post by: Joe2Crow on May 08, 2016, 07:58:00 PM
I like to cant the bow sometimes as well but I think I torche the string more than when I shoot vertical. Just a thought.
Title: Re: canting question
Post by: AZ_Longbow on May 08, 2016, 08:02:00 PM
May be twisting the string when you cant.  Perhaps you are using   the arrow or the point to sight. No matter how you hold the bow or cant it, it will shoot the same if your consistent. Just don't twist the string that messes everything up.
Title: Re: canting question
Post by: nhbuck1 on May 08, 2016, 08:33:00 PM
i think i was over shooting, i took a break and went back out i shoot better with a cant. how can i avoid twisting the string shooting with glove?
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Post by: PaulDeadringer29 on May 08, 2016, 08:37:00 PM
Are you sure you're arrows are tuned? If you're arrows aren't hitting where you're looking, it could be a tuning issue.
Title: Re: canting question
Post by: McDave on May 08, 2016, 09:25:00 PM
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Originally posted by nhbuck1:
i think i was over shooting, i took a break and went back out i shoot better with a cant. how can i avoid twisting the string shooting with glove?
When you're just practicing, occasionally open your bow hand at full draw so the bow handle is not constricted.  You should be able to rotate the bow back and forth by rotating your string hand.  Get a feeling for how much your string hand needs to be rotated to get the cant you want without torquing the string.  For me, since I have a tendency to torque the string, I rotate my string hand so that the string is pressed against my ring finger before I even start to draw the bow, and make sure I keep that contact during the draw.
Title: Re: canting question
Post by: newhouse114 on May 08, 2016, 09:50:00 PM
Since I pretty much gap shoot, I have to cant the bow to align the arrow with my eye.
Title: Re: canting question
Post by: on May 08, 2016, 10:16:00 PM
The way I hold a bow creates a natural cant to about 1 o'clock. Holding a bow vertical feels very unnatural to me!

Bisch
Title: Re: canting question
Post by: screamin on May 08, 2016, 10:40:00 PM
I'll shoot straight up for initial bare shaft tuning but thats it, it doesn't feel natural to me. I am much more consistent shooting canted than vertical.
Title: Re: canting question
Post by: nhbuck1 on May 09, 2016, 12:07:00 AM
Ya the arrows are tuned, bsreshaft flying good with 200 grain head 400 spine 50 lb at 28 which is my draw.
Title: Re: canting question
Post by: Butchie on May 09, 2016, 07:37:00 AM
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Originally posted by Bisch:
The way I hold a bow creates a natural cant to about 1 o'clock. Holding a bow vertical feels very unnatural to me!

Bisch
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Title: Re: canting question
Post by: Matt E on May 09, 2016, 11:17:00 AM
I think you will have to shoot a target bow straight up due to its design but a traditional long bow or recurve is best shot canted. You may shoot it any way you choose but it is hard for me to see anyone geting the best from the bow shooting it straight up.
Title: Re: canting question
Post by: ThePushArchery on May 09, 2016, 12:35:00 PM
I shoot all my bows, competition or hunting bows vertical.

Transitioned from a roughly 20 degree cant to a vertical bow a couple years ago.

I find I get better accuracy for my biology with a vertical bow and my tuning process also seemed to become a lot easier.

Have not noticed any adverse effects while hunting to date. (ground, spot/stalk, treestands)
Title: Re: canting question
Post by: TRAD101 on May 09, 2016, 01:16:00 PM
try a vertical draw to you anchor and simply bend
at the waste to get the cant that you want, it
puts the dominant eye over the arrow and does not
torque the string. bow hand and string hand will
cant as you bend at the waste. worth a try. be sure that your bow arm shoulder is pointed at the
spot you are aiming at.