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Main Boards => The Shooters FORM Board => Topic started by: Longbowcrowder66 on October 13, 2016, 01:17:00 PM
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Hey guys I was wanting to try using the fixed crawl method. The question I have is do the guys using this method anchor with first or second finger? I shoot truely instictive using a glove anchoring with the second finger. I have my good days and bad. I shoot no more than 25 yards. I just want to be as accurate as possible. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Floyd,
The beauty of the fixed crawl is that you can anchor however is most comfortable for you. Simply adjust how far down the string you need to set your fixed crawl nocking point based on your point on distance you desire.
Simple as that.
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I didn't change anything on how I anchored when I switched.
I'd say the fixed crawl should help shooting "intinstively" at closer ranges under 20 if you subconsciously are referencing the point in your sight picture.
I like being able to keep the point on or just below the deer from point blank all the way to my max range. Even if I don't always consiously focus on where my point is, I think it helps shooting "instinctively". Its probably not true insinctive. But after putting an less than lethal arrow through a big bucks sternum at 3 yds I decided that I needed to stay present during the shot and have mental checks for my shot process, vs just feeling it. I think staying present during the shot is important when moving to a deer stand. The angles change your perspective which can mess with your instinct.
That my 2 cents, and why I switched to 3 under...then fixed crawl.
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I shoot fixed crawl for hunting and string walk for 3-d season. I shoot three under with my middle finger at the corner of my mount and the first thumb knuckle (closest to my palm) at the back of my jaw.
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I truely am going to give it a try, i just want to be more accurate when it comes to deer hunting. I dont shoot over 20 yards at deer, Im shooting a mahaska Longbow 66" 49@28. Last time Hunted with trad was 1991, lost a huge bear cause of poor shoot so I went back to compound. All this year a shot 3ds with longbow and I try and shoot everyday. Bow season came in here in Va Oct 1. Im trying to get a kill with longbow but nothing yet. I shoot totally instictive, no gap method. I just pick a spot foucus and shoot. I do pretty good but most time hit high. Wanting to give Fixed Crawl a try to and be more accurate.
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Floyd, watch the video on youtube called the push. He explains it perfectly and step by step. you will be using the arrow for aiming though, not instinctive
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Keith, Ive tried calling you a couple of times and even text.. Have you changer your number?? Give me a call. I watched the Push on youtube.. was great . Thanks...
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Guys, is there any benefit of using the fixed crawl over simply using a higher anchor point.
The reason I am asking is because I have been doing some experimenting and I've found that when I anchor middle finger in corner of my mouth (which is normal for me) my point on is a little over 20 yards. So would it be useless for me to try the fixed crawl when my point on is already at a fairly good hunting range?
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buckyeye,
IMHO you've reached the point of diminishing returns unless you just want it closer. You're already where most people are trying to get to. Some have to combine high nock sets with fixed crawls and heavy arrows to get there...you're lucky. From my experience when you start moving up your face you're going to have to maintain the alignment you had at the corner of mouth or else you'll start encountering right/left misses. Faces aren't symmetrical...it's easier said than done. There just aren't a lot of solid, repeatable landmarks on that real estate until you get to the eye...and the thought of busted nocks would deter me from ever anchoring there.
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Way back before I needed glasses, I anchored right up by my eye. I can't say my alignment was all that great because, at the time, I didn't know much about what "form" was supposed to be.
After a pair of glassed become a permanent part of my face, a "high" anchor was just out of the question.
The huge gap just added a degree of inconsistency that I could never get comfortable with. I can shoot "instinctively" and do ok at close range...sometimes. That's not what I'm after either.
I want to be able to understand the mechanics, aim at something and hit it or come REAL close. There's no reason to not be able to do that at reasonable hunting distances.
Before going to a "crawl" I was going out of my way to shoot slow bows with long, heavy arrows...because my gaps were manageable.