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Title: Anchor finger - index or middle?
Post by: BijanO on October 17, 2017, 08:40:00 PM
Does which finger you use for anchor make a difference if you shoot instinctively? In reading "Shooting a stickbow" the author suggests strongly the index finger.

While it does make for a more comfortable anchor (the thumb doesn't get in the way) I'm wondering why the middle finger is so popular.
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Post by: RJonesRCRV on October 17, 2017, 09:37:00 PM
I use middle finger since it sticks out further at anchor, thus easier to locate to the corner of my mouth.

Use what you find most comfortable and repeatable shot to shot.
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Post by: SAM E. STEPHENS on October 17, 2017, 10:05:00 PM
Middle here just works better for me and how I shoot...

,,,Sam,,,
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Post by: Red Beastmaster on October 17, 2017, 11:50:00 PM
Middle. It gets the arrow closer to your eye.
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Post by: woodchucker on October 18, 2017, 04:18:00 AM
I shot years ago with my index finger at the corner of my mouth. It was more comfortable as my thumb was under my jawbone, but it was mainly to clear those big "aviator" glasses, that were "styling" at the time, LMAO! If you gap shoot... Your gap will be increased dramatically, and your point on will probly be increased about 20yds or so. Shooting truely instinctive your sight picture will open up a bit. Nothing you can't get used to though!?
Last 10 years or so, I've been shooting middle finger, and going back & forth between split finger & 3under. Play around & see what's most comfortable for you...
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Post by: David McLendon on October 18, 2017, 05:14:00 AM
Middle
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Post by: PICKNGRIN on October 18, 2017, 05:54:00 AM
I went to the middle quite a few years ago after using the index finger for many years.  I like the middle, it gets my eye a little closer to the arrow, I think I shoot better using the middle.
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Post by: Joeabowhunter on October 18, 2017, 06:51:00 AM
switched to middle to get arrow closer to my eye
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Post by: RedShaft on October 18, 2017, 06:54:00 AM
Middle for me also.
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Post by: 9 Shocks on October 18, 2017, 08:51:00 AM
Middle.  Works with my facial geometry.  I have tried my index finger and it just doesnt align me properly.
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Post by: Stumpkiller on October 18, 2017, 10:09:00 AM
I have a canine that bumps out in just the right spot so that my middle finger fits behind it at full anchor (slit finger); and the line of my thumb lays snug against my jawbone.  

Work with what you've got.
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Post by: carbonflyr on October 18, 2017, 11:25:00 AM
when i started it was index finger then after about 5 yrs. i switched to middle finger,now i'm thinking of switching to ring finger.
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Post by: Buckeye1977 on October 18, 2017, 11:32:00 AM
I started with middle finger and then switched to index because it was more comfortable for me
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Post by: Bowwild on October 18, 2017, 11:36:00 AM
Index for me. I tried to switch to middle but felt too weird after so many years using index anchor.

Ironically, this small change felt too weird but I switched to LH shooting in 1997 after shooting RH for 28 years.
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Post by: KeganM on October 18, 2017, 11:49:00 AM
I use both fingers as well as my thumb. Middle finger in the corner of my mouth, thumb behind my jaw, and index  cupping the bottom of my cheekbone.
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Post by: Pat B on October 18, 2017, 12:28:00 PM
It really doesn't matter which finger where but the consistency of your anchor.
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Post by: Sirius Black on October 18, 2017, 05:53:00 PM
Middle.
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Post by: Trenton G. on October 18, 2017, 06:23:00 PM
I started out middle, but then over time realized that I was putting the corner of my mouth between my middle and index. I noticed in a picture the other day that Byron Ferguson does the same thing. If only I got the same results.
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Post by: Zradix on October 18, 2017, 06:51:00 PM
When I use use my index I tend to pluck the string.
I put about 70% of string pressure on my middle finger and around 20% on my ring finger. My index basically just goes along for the ride.

...I shoot split btw.
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Post by: Woodpuppy on October 18, 2017, 07:21:00 PM
Anybody use their ring finger?
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Post by: Sam McMichael on October 18, 2017, 07:48:00 PM
I use the middle finger.
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Post by: Jakeemt on October 18, 2017, 10:27:00 PM
OP the author of that book iAnthony Camera is an old school sighted archer. I think he made the Olympic hopefuls a few times but, I am not sure if he ever made the team. Regardless the index finger anchor is what he has been shooting for man many years most often with sights but, I have no doubt he is damn good without them! Use the anchor point the works best with your style and aiming system whatever that may be. I have a sighted bow and I too like a nice low anchor but, gap shooting a bare bow I like a high anchor. Don’t worry too much about how you want to anchor and worry most about a solid repeatable anchor with good form behind it.
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Post by: Stumpkiller on October 18, 2017, 10:36:00 PM
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Originally posted by Woodpuppy:
Anybody use their ring finger?
To draw with, yes.  Along with the middle and index.  I tried lopping 3/4" off with a tractor but that didn't help and I had to shoot lefty for a year until it "grew back".  

But I must say switch-bowing is a wake-up call for form.  I had to start from scratch.

Glad it took and is back in the game.  I still have to "remember" my elbow height at anchor as that low finger is semi-numb and I have a high-arrow fault if I get sloppy.
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Post by: BijanO on October 18, 2017, 10:45:00 PM
Thanks gents. The switch from RH to LH but no go on fingers made me chuckle.
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Post by: Bill from NJ on October 21, 2017, 07:43:00 PM
Middle finger in corner of my mouth.

Only because it is longer and touches my mouth better.
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Post by: Rough Run on October 21, 2017, 07:45:00 PM
Index finger.  Just felt natural, more comfortable for me.
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Post by: Jayrod on October 21, 2017, 08:34:00 PM
Middle finger corner of mouth for me also
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Post by: KyStickbow on October 21, 2017, 09:39:00 PM
Middle finger for me.
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Post by: LongbowArchitect on November 20, 2017, 11:20:00 AM
Index finger at back of eye tooth and thumb knuckle under jaw bone for me.
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Post by: moebow on November 20, 2017, 11:38:00 AM
I've suggested this many times but most don't get it.  Your anchor point (hand on the face) is a result of the draw, NOT a target for or of the draw.  Draw to bone on bone alignment THEN where your hand ends up is where your hand ends up.  Many try to define a place for the hand on the face THEN draw to that point.  That does NOT give you a consistent form or body position.  IMO, you must draw until the bow weight is taken up by the bones in your arms and shoulders THEN your hand comes to the face and you can then determine locations of the string hand.  Like finger in the corner of the mouth, on  a tooth, on the jaw, etc.

The hand position is a RESULT of the draw, NOT a target of the draw!!

Arne
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Post by: YosemiteSam on November 20, 2017, 12:07:00 PM
I only shoot instinctive sometimes.  But I use the middle for gap & instinctive.  That is, until distances exceed 25 yards, then I anchor to the index finger.  It's a larger gap but it extends the flat part of the trajectory out about 10 yards (same MPBR from 20-35 yards).

For me, a lower anchor point is the same as a higher-mounted scope on a rifle.  It can all work.  But under field conditions, mounting a scope lower to the bore axis gives fewer variations -- especially at close range.  Same with a high anchor (middle finger index).

I've tried a ring finger index but can't seem to find it.  Instead, if I'm doing something like that, I'll anchor on my cheek bone with my index finger right next to my nostril.  If I'm shooting a brand new setup or at very close range (<10 yards), it's my go-to anchor point.
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Post by: stagetek on November 20, 2017, 12:48:00 PM
Middle. Easier to feel the corner of my mouth, and the arrow is closer to me eye's.
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Post by: ChasingWhitetails on November 20, 2017, 12:51:00 PM
Index finger for me as well. It just seems to go there on its own. I tried a dozen times or so with the middle but seems awkward.
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Post by: WVbowhunter on November 21, 2017, 09:45:00 PM
I gap, stringwalk and shoot instinctive depending on the bow and application (stringwalking is strictly for competition instinctive for wingshooting or quick hunting shots) but with all of them I anchor three-under with my index finger at the corner of my mouth and the knuckle at the base of my thumb behind my ear. The point on difference for me is usually about eleven yards.
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Post by: the rifleman on December 23, 2017, 09:35:00 AM
Arne's advice is spot on and worked for me.  I know when I'm falling into bad habits as my left and rights increase.  I use the rotational draw and once I am in line, as he said there is a noticeable drop in perceived weight of the bow string.  I know when I am at "anchor", not from hand placement on my face, but from feedback in my muscles---if I do it the other way I am all over the place and begin shaking and collapsing.
That being said I did discover that I could not achieve this with a high hand placement on my face, as much as I wanted to shrink gaps.  I shot with middle finger level with mouth for a while, but the other day I noticed that if i drew back into my back tension and just let the hand lay where it is comfortable I am nearer my index finger to my mouth with the thumb c pocket under my jaw.  The solidness of this lower anchor trumps any aiming advantages I was getting from a higher anchor.  As Arne has said, form is imperative and aiming can then be worked out within that.