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Title: Hogs and K.E
Post by: MWhitehair on January 15, 2006, 10:54:00 AM
Im heading to Georgia for my first hog hunt in February with my longbow, and I just wanted to be sure I can get into a hog with it.
I calculated the K.E on it to be around 28 FtLbs (160 FPS/ 500 Grain Arrow)with a scary sharp Magnus II 2-Blade.

Aside from boar, what are other general KE minimum recomendations just out of curiosity...

Thanks Gang
Title: Re: Hogs and K.E
Post by: NorthShoreLB on January 15, 2006, 01:54:00 PM
All those formulas make my head spin.
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   Manny
Title: Re: Hogs and K.E
Post by: Charlie Lamb on January 16, 2006, 08:22:00 AM
Matt... your set up will work just fine.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hogs and K.E
Post by: beachbowhunter on January 16, 2006, 12:33:00 PM
Sure will, just let the one that looks like a VW bus keep on walking, it wont taste that great either   :scared:
Title: Re: Hogs and K.E
Post by: Bacote Kid on January 18, 2006, 02:21:00 AM
You can hit a 400 pounder just above the elbow slightly 1/4 away and he's dead, dead, dead. You can hit a 200 pound mature boar in the shield with 70 foot pounds then you better be near a tree. Sweet spot   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hogs and K.E
Post by: Aaron Proffitt on January 18, 2006, 02:37:00 AM
I forget, and I hear it mentioned all the time;
where is the shield at again ?
Title: Re: Hogs and K.E
Post by: Bacote Kid on January 18, 2006, 03:38:00 AM
Roughly were the center of the lungs will be on a whitetail. Age has alot more to do with shield thickness than size...Male hogs do have a thicker tougher shoulder blade than a sow but boars fight by crossing their heads about the neck or so and they gouge and cut the hell out of each other in the shoulder area 'till one of em says uncle. This causes scar tissue. Over the years the scar tissue will get thicker and thicker and cover more and more of the shoulder. They don't call em North American Rhino's and the Poor Man's Grizzly for nuthin...

 www.texasboars.com/anatomy.html (http://www.texasboars.com/anatomy.html)

This ain't no monster old boar but it'll show you how small the kill zone is to begin with. Notice how low the boiler room is...Bacote      :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hogs and K.E
Post by: wifishkiller on January 18, 2006, 10:31:00 AM
I shot some big hogs with about the same amount of KE just hit them low and tight to the shoulder and they go down fast.  A nice 1/4ing away shot is prime     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hogs and K.E
Post by: Aaron Proffitt on January 18, 2006, 04:57:00 PM
Thanks , Bacote !! Interesting lesson there; not where I would've figured the vitals to be ,almost like on african game. Very low & very far forward.

Aaron
Title: Re: Hogs and K.E
Post by: Bacote Kid on January 19, 2006, 12:44:00 AM
And very African Tough. I've screwed up a few times and hit an old boar right were ya ain't supposed to. Looked like the arrow hit a Hickory Stump. Then I just did my best Road Runner imatation...BK...   :eek:


And just to let you know how little KE you need if you hit the spot like wifishkiller is talkin about. I've killed several boars over 300lbs in that spot with dogs and a pocket knife. Learned that from my ol uncle who is no longer with us when I was a grass hopper...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hogs and K.E
Post by: Biggie Hoffman on January 25, 2006, 07:22:00 AM
In contrast to Bacote's experiences, I've shot scores of big boars broadside and never had any penetration problems. I mean, I don't get passthrus but 14" of penetration gets the job done nicely. Mostly with 65# and 550 grain threeblade heads. Woodsmans, Snuffers and Razorcaps.

I think the hogs in Texas fight more and probably have thicker shields on average. I hear lots more fighting when I'm down there than in Florida or Georgia.  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/whoffman1955/FLBoar.jpg)
Title: Re: Hogs and K.E
Post by: Biggie Hoffman on January 25, 2006, 07:23:00 AM
Sorry about the size of the photo. I thought I had it sized down. I'm really not trying to make him look bigger...honest!
Title: Re: Hogs and K.E
Post by: Bacote Kid on January 26, 2006, 11:43:00 PM
That makes alot of sense Biggie. I never thought of that. I think alot of people don't understand that a great protion of the "SHIELD" is in fact scare tissue from fighting, along with a heavier set of shoulders than a farm hog or woods sow...Bacote...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hogs and K.E
Post by: Bjorn on January 30, 2006, 11:16:00 PM
Biggie that is a handsome piggie!
Congrats,
Bjorn