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Main Boards => Dangerous Game => Topic started by: deermaster on October 05, 2006, 11:38:00 AM
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does any one use silver flame heads? thay look awsome but are quite high. just wondering if they stand up tto their claim? thanks!!
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Deermaster ,
i sell them here and North America and the answer is easy they are what they claim to be . tough and scarry sharp .German Precision workmanship .
just wished Marcus made glue ons 8>) ,which he won't .--- herb
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Dr. Ashby talks about him in his study. I think it's the 3rd part of 05. He felt they were the best screw in head he tested. Ashby still seemed to hold the grizzly 190s in highest regard though.
Over on pow-wow there are several threads regarding silver flames, and you might get some good info over there.
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I've been shooting Silver Flames for a couple of years now. IMHO they are well worth the money, scary sharp, and fly well. I shot a buck a couple weeks ago with a complete pass through. Checked the Silver Flame it was still sharp enough to shave with. I put it back into my bow quiver after cleaning up the arrow for the next hunt. They take a beating very strong design and can be easily touched up to original sharpeness.
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My .02
Silver flames are to be used on a "special" occasion like for myself Elk hunting.
I live in iIllinois where White tails abound and I do not use them on Deer.
I only use them on Big game.
My opinion the best there is bar none
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I have used the 180gr for several years now. Stos are my day to day broadheads but for big stuff the Flames are second to none and scary sharp!
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I have hit the off side shoulder on a zebra and an elk and when I pulled the head back out through the body they were still razor sharp.
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guys sent some to a customer in Alabama who was heading of ot Ohio for big one,they arrived a day before he left just before thankgiving he was worried they wouldn't fly good with out tuning hit the same as his field points but only drawback he found was they went right through his deer target and had to cut them out of a pine tree behind it :D :D sure hope he gets a good one --- herb
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What weights do they come in now? Is there a 200 grain?
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100, 125, 150, 180
The new 210gr with solid blade is now available.
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Yes Faulk is correct , i wqas the first in North America to have them in stock at the moment i have a couple of 3 packs of 100 gr ,lots of 150 gr and 4 x3packs of 210 gr left in stock and just emailed in an order to restock what i am out of and to fill back orders .prices are higher now than on my website $67.75/3 pack US dollars .i swolled some of the increase but have to pass some on .---herb
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Sharpest and best made head I've ever seen. I got mine a couple of years ago. Stos and Grizzly are my daily use heads but I can't come close to the SF for their edge and I get the others shaving sharp.
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I have all of them in stock guys...they are a great head...who said scary sharp?? yes they are!!
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Heck,they'd cost me over $100 for three at that price.
I'm going to do it though,because I have the bow "DAS" and the Arrows "grizzly sticks" so I may as well go the whole hog an get the sharp bits to match.
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Is there anyone in Michigan that sells the Silver Flames?
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Are they available with a single bevel yet? That might be the missing ingredient to have Dr. Ashby give them the nod over the Grizzly ;)
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In Africa this year I saw a cape buffalo die in 23 seconds after taking a hit with an 800 grain arrow tipped with a 180 silver flame. We were at Vissers in South Africa and one of the other hunters did that. Heinke Lottering was the PH. After we viewed the video and discussion followed, Heinke said that they should tell all their buff hunters to consider silver flame heads. It seems that others have come there and killed buffs with them with a very high success rate of quick, clean kills. Considering that these PH's see quite a few kills over the course of the year I think that is a ringing endorsement. And Doc Asbell scores this head as #1 in it's class.
Other than buff, silver flames killed eland, kudu, gemsbok and quite a few others on my trip. All of us in camp were using them. My wife killed a 900 lb kudu bull with a 425 grain arrow tipped with a 100 grain silver flame. One shot in the heart, 3/4 arrow penetration, and that head acted like a slice and dice machine in the cavity while the kudu ran away. We heard the death bellows within a 100 yards. I killed a nice red hartebeest with a 700 grain arrow tipped with a 210 'flame. Somewhere at my release or his movement, probably both, landed that arrow in his neck instead of the double lunger I was shooting for. That 'flame lodged in his spine and cut the dickens out of whatever was around it. He died in sight of the blind.
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I seldom see hunting shows but did catch one recently. A woman killed a bull elephant with a single arrow using a Silver Flame, looked like a 180.
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Are they hard to resharpen when they do become dull?
Randy
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RASTAMAN ,
a friend of mine uses a sharpener called an edge pro they are expensive but will sharpen all your equipment he says they will put the edge back on them .
after saying this i have sole exactly 2 packs of replacement blades .also a lot of multiple kills with a single blade . these things are sharp .
i have bought 8 packs of the 1 7/8 " 185 gr blades from Marcus as far as i know the last he has and the last he will be making at least 4 are spoken for .i have lots of the 150 gr and will have a few 125 gr in stock but the 100 ,180 and 210 are getting scarce ---- herb
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thanks Herb
Randy
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I have not shot anything with them yet but 150 grain Silver Flames will be going with me in August of this year on the end of a 670 gr arrow to Namibia Africa. I figure for that once in a lifetime hunt I should have the best!
I also think that I got them sharper then they came from the factory. I put some White Rouge on an old leather belt and stropped them then dipped them in "Protect an Edge" from 3Rivers.
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The Silver Flame is my favorite broadhead. I was able to test all 3 2blade broadheads I wanted to try this year in Oklahoma. My impressions were that the STOS left a great wound channel, but I wasn't overly impressed with the penetration, it seemed to me that that particular arrow could've passed through, but something weird might've happened. The tip bent even though nothing very heavy was hit. The Eclipse penetrated exceptionally both times I used it on a deer, but both wound channels were poor (strange I know). The Silver Flame happened to dead center a doe's spine at a slightly quartering-to angle. It severed a rib on impact and continued on to sever the spine (it hit it dead on, cutting just about the largest amount of bone possible at that angle). The head cleared the vertebrae and penetrated a few inches further, nearly exiting the offside. This was with a 52#@30" DAS recurve with arrows weighing only 435 grains. Now I know this isn't scientific, but I'm confident at this point that the Silver Flame is the broadhead I want on the end of my arrows from now on.
I found something the next morning that was even more surprising. After pulling the broadhead back out, I cleaned the arrow off and prepared to resharpen it. Out of curiosity I attempted to shave my arm with it, and found that it still popped hair off my arm effortlessly!
They are an excellent broadhead well worth the price.
Craig
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A friend of mine shot a small pig with one and somehow broke the point off, the portion after the ferrule stops. He was quite disappointed at $25 a pop.
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As I understand it the Silver Flames cost 75 bucks for 3 of them. they are sharp right out of the package and I guess they are very sharp, But what are their other qualities other than being sharp. My magnus's are very sharp also I have to shapen them myself, but it only takes a few minutes per head to get them at least twice as sharp as they need to be. and I get 6 magnus's for the price of 1 silverflame, it seems kind of crazy to me to think that if you spend enough money success will come. Most any coc broadhead in the weight you need is going to be more than enough,
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I bought a dozen a couple of years ago and have killed over 40 animals with them. I still have 6 in the package as I have yet to damage one of the origanil 6 I started out using. Leftieshot I don't have a clue what happened to your buddy. I shot through a Mountain Reedbuck and into a concrete tank. it knocked a chuck out of the concrete and didn't break the head