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Do you NEED to wear gloves when clean a hog? I've heard it both ways. If you don't have a cut on your hands and forarms aren't you okay? Or,is it the safe thing to do to always slip on rubber gloves?
I don't think ole timers did and don't think Arkansas ole timers particularly did and don't remember any talk about the diseases they got from cleaning hogs.
I'd like both some advice and a poll of you hog hunters.
Charles
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We trap hogs around here and if none of the local hunting ranches want them, we butcher them ourselves and keep the meat. Sometimes I wear gloves, sometimes I dont. I know what the risks are. Sometimes I don't wear my seatbelt in the car either. Both practices could take me off my feet.
Here's the thing, you could have a cut on your hands, fingers, or a forearm, and even see it. A microscopic cut in skin is all it takes for one microbe to enter the bloodstream. Then you're screwed. I have a patient on my caseload right now who is missing his arm up to his elbow because he cut himself and didn't take care of the wound.
If you do not wear rubber gloves, at least make sure you wash your hands afterward in antimicrobial soap with warm water, up to your elbows for a minute each arm. If you're skinning out in the field, then yes, wear them gloves.
Its just a good idea to be safe and wear the gloves. I remember some old saying...an ounce of prevention is worth a penny earned or something?
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Gloves are cheap. I need my arms!
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I have a buddy that lost his little finger and part of his hand from an infection he got while cleaning a hog back in the 1990s. He nicked his finger on the broadhead that was still in the chest cavity when he was field dressing it. Not having any first aid, he just rinsed it off in the creek. Long story short, he ended up with a pretty serious infection and lost his entire little finger and the metacarpal bone on his left hand.
I'm not sure even gloves would have prevented his cut, but he definitely got the infection from the hog. I carry gloves and some soap with me in my pack. There is no sense in taking a chance.
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I am a taxidermist and always wear gloves, so yes I would. Better safe than sorry!
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Its good to use gloves. You just never know what is in the blood or under the skin. I own a hunting ranch that is hog hunting only. I have butchered hogs that have had broadheads in them. There is usually a nasty greenish knot that smells horid. I wouldn't want to take a chance of getting that stuff in a cut.
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I stop immediatly to put blood of hog into my anisette...
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Surgical gloves are a good idea. They help combat infection, but they also make clean-up so much easier. I keep a box in my kitchen at home, as well as in my hunting vehicle. I always carry them in my fanny pack/back pack when in the field. :campfire:
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I always use gloves, buy the yellow thick ones made for bath cleaning. The surgical one ripe too easily on the ribs,ect. Also, I carry a small bottle of hand sanatizer in my pack.
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I have cut into many hogs and have not worn gloves, no problems yet. I would have to agree with the rest of this thread it is a good idea like wearing saftey glasses when you weedeat I know I should but don't always do what I should.
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+1 on gloves. Cheap - why not? This is one of those natural selection issues. H
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I have a buddy who contracted brucellosis (sp?) through cleaning a hog. Knocked the stuffing out of him big time! He will not kill or clean o hog to this day.
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same as M Sights....I buy a buch of the heavy yellow dish gloves at the start of each season and they go directly to the bottom of my pack/Also carry the hand sanitizer and baby wipes.
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Yes, even with deer.
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I agree with Fletcher! I use gloves with deer and hogs. I actually even use gloves with small game and fish. As Bill Turner said, they make clean-up easier. Since I put away my rifles I haven't had to clean too much game :) If I put away my shotgun come next bird season, I may not need to buy gloves for a while. LOL :)
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Some people seem to think hogs are more likely to transmit disease maybe because they are ugly? Well animals are equal when it comes to that so wear your gloves for all or none-you decide.
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Originally posted by Bowjangle:
Do you NEED to wear gloves when clean a hog? I've heard it both ways. If you don't have a cut on your hands and forarms aren't you okay? Or,is it the safe thing to do to always slip on rubber gloves?
I don't think ole timers did and don't think Arkansas ole timers particularly did and don't remember any talk about the diseases they got from cleaning hogs.
I'd like both some advice and a poll of you hog hunters.
Charles
In Hawaii, you can easily get leptospirosis from the blood through a cut... fairly nasty affliction... and if not diagnosed properly...fatal.
With goats and other animals, gloves helps keep from transferring dirt and "smells" (goats etc) to the meat when you're careful.
I ALWAYS use surgical gloves which I buy by the box for cheap....
The only bit I have is that they are hot... but that is better than diseased...
Much Aloha... :cool:
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Any feral hogs I kill..I give them to the buzzards.In my opinion these hogs are the nastiest in the world. I have seen them eat everything from rotten dead cattle to eating the mature of deer. :nono:
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I have been a licensed falconer since 1994. I use trained hawks to catch wild game with. In 1998 I caught a squirrel with a red tail hawk I had at the time. The date was December 17th. It was a mild winter, as I cleaned the squirrel and it was noticeably thin. Two days later I felt like I had the flu this lasted 5 days I felt like I was going to die! I went to the doctor and he in fact told me I was dying but he couldnt figure out why, my heart and lungs were failing. I was admitted to the hospital ASAP. An infectious disease doctor was interviewing me asking if I ate any bloody meat? yes last month..nope too long ago not Burcellocis(SP?), Have you been exposed to raw sewage? yep at work two weeks back...nope cant be whatever it was he said..my wife says probably those damned hawks..he asks what I do with them, I tell him, he asks if any game recently cleaned was sick lately I tell him about the thin squirrel, with the bad coat, some ticks, it was sick...Textbook case of Tularemia, he says, orders IV antibiotics, a near death experience that night, and the next day I am on the road to recovery. For a week I didnt do anything but lay in a hospital bed Ididnt eat for two week I dont want to describe the vomiting and diareah but it was vile nothing but water literally for the first week in the hospital. The whole time I had doctors of all manner coming in with clipboards looking at me as if I was some type of unbelievable freak from Ripleys believe it or not.When I recovered the infectious disease doctor came in and told me had you not quit smoking 3 months before you would be dead. He also said he had seen two cases of this before. One was a little boy who buried a dead rabbit he found in the backyard he died, later they figured out in autopsy what he had ..Tularemia. Another was a man who hunted some jackrabbits in Kansas cam home died and he too, autopsy...Tularemia..I love to hunt I live to hunt. During hunting season my whole life if I rasie my hands to my face I can smell blood on them from cleaning game 5-7 days a week,literally, its in my soul. Two weeks after I get out of the hospiatl I was able to get out with my reliable old red tail her name was shotgun her first flight she caught a cottontail. I pulled out the rubber gloves, dispatched the rabbit that was in her feet, and gently pulled its front leg off for her so I could take the bunny from her without a fuss. As I pulled the leg off the scapula on the front leg of the rabbit cut my left palm to the bone! A friend of mine with me that day says I have a deathwish. I pulled off the gloves and from that day forward I dont use rubber gloves, I still hunt, I clean game with my barehands,I do however refuse to clean game if it is sick looking or acting, or if the liver is diseased and I always carry a water, soap, rubbing alcohol solution in a jug, to clean up with everytime I clean game. Be careful, bacteria is invisible. I could see the squirrel was sick and went against my better judgement, it nearly cost my life.
Thanks,
Chris
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I always have on hand several pairs of insemination gloves, they go up to your shoulder and prevent any blood from getting on your hands, arms, or shirtsleeves.
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Lately, I have been wearing gloves on all critters I start cutting on. More so for the clean up factor. But for pigs I will double glove.
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I remember some old saying...an ounce of prevention is worth a penny earned or something? [/QB]
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. ;)
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I wear those long disposable gloves that come up to your armpits and then I put surg. gloves over that to snug for better feel. Protection plus, clean up is a whiz. If I touch something like bowel, I strip off the surg. gloves and put on another pair. Easy. I use when I clean anything, even big fish.
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Gloves are cheap! cheap! and are a great Idea for many different animals.
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WOW GOOD INFO...
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I rarely ever wear gloves and throughout the year il clean everything that we have a hunting/fishing season on. No problems....Yet. It is really scary when you take a wildlife disease course and see what is out there and I for one will tell yall that its better safe than sorry. Now I just need to learn to take my own advice
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I have had two friends in the past year nearly die from swine brucelosis. They both have killed hundreds of hogs, one always wears gloves the other never used to.
I've read that it can be contracted simply by breathing it in and doesn't have to get into a cut, necessarily.
I always wear gloves now when cleaning them.
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From my Understanding you can contract Brucelosis just from breathing it in.
I very seldom use glove's, i prob should but skin so many it difficult to keep enough gloves.
Like mentioned though they are cheap, and worth using
I have started to carry Dettol "Instant hand sanitizer" in my pack
if you kill and cut up a lot of hogs or any animals for that matter
look it up
put some in your pack
works great
hunt hard
Andy Ivy
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I've cleaned hundreds of hogs and other critters with no problems. After reading this thread, seems maybe I've been lucky!
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universal precautions, if blood is going to be involved i wear gloves, and always wash my hands afterwards. the cost is so cheap it does not make sense not to use them
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I use rubber gloves, typically the dish washing kind, whenever I field dress any mammal at any time of the year. The gloves I use will occasionally tear though, so I looked around and found these...kinda pricey but probably reusable.
http://www.sears.com/t-h-g-arms-length-rubber-latex-all-purpose-cleaning-glove/p-SPM6108016508P?prdNo=1
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Nope, I don't use them for Deer, Sheep r Goats either.
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Yep. Big, thick yellow gloves from the grocery store -- the dishwashing type. Cheap insurance I think.
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I should add that I use gloves for all big game cleaning.
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Gloves are a very good idea when field dressing, skinning, and/or butchering any animal. People have gotten very sick and some have even died from diseases contracted from handling dead animals. Chances are you will never have a problem but tell that to the few that have gotten very sick or the families of those who have died from contracted diseases.
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Not using gloves is like not wearing a harness in a treestand. You might get away with it for a long time, some can get away with it for their whole life, but really what's the point of chancing it? One infected animal is all it takes to put you in the hospital. Gloves are cheap, don't take up much space, are light, and could save your life and your health. Really, what's the downside?
I use nitrile rubber gloves always, no matter what kind of animal I'm cleaning. A box of 100 pairs costs around $20.
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Not sure if this link has been posted yet but I thought it might be useful...
http://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/health-disease/swine-brucellosis/
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I spend a lot of money on this sport, equipment,hunts and and so on. the gloves are darn near free, why not use them.
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I nearly died four times from an infection in my face, and it took multiple surgeries that took all my teeth as well as some muscle, and left me with permanent neurological damage to kill it. Lost a kidney from the drugs.
Mine was never sourced-they had never seen anything like it before. Wear the gloves. It's better safe than sorry.
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Yep, wear gloves with hogs....might have to start on deer as well.
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I wear em just to be on the safe side. They are cheap / light / take up no space, and can prevent a huge pain in the ass! I am all for em!
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Yes I wear gloves while cleaning hogs and deer. Cheap price to pay to be safe.
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You should really wear gloves for all game not just pigs as they all carry nasties. I have never worn gloves and never will, I also dont know anybody that wears them. Its a matter of being aware thats all.
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I wear gloves with all game I handle. Why wouldn't you?
It's cheap insurance for more than just disease related issues. Your hands are clean and dry when you are finished, and it is far easier to maintain a solid grip on your knife and anything else that needs hanging onto.
All benefits that minimize failure in the field.
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Hey guys, I'm new to hogs, If you dont mind me asking, what the heck are you talking about ? didn't know you could get sick from them, why would anyone want to eat them if they are diseased ? sorry, but we dont have them where I'm from so not very experienced........gary
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No, never. I was a butcher in another life. I do carry a small bottle of 10% iodine and treat any cut immediately. I also just hang and skin the hogs, then bone them out. Never open the chesk cavity and only open the abdomen with a small slit to retrieve the Psoas major (tenderloin)
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Hogs are no different from other wild game, or not so wild for that matter. I'm sure undertakers wear gloves too.
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In Florida, about 20% it's estimated are seropositive for brucellosis. You can get the microb at anytime handling the meat, so be careful even in your kitchen and make sure you cook it well!
- A
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There were about 110 cases of swine brucellosis in Florida in 2011, I knew three of the guys! Two nearly died.These were guys that cleaned or handled hundreds of hogs per year. We wear rubber gloves cleaning hogs in camp at all times. We also rinse the knives during the butchering with water and after with bleach.Like Michael said, I never gut the hog unless the client/friend wants the ribs(very little meat) or tenderloins(which are tiny). You can get 90%+ of the meat off the pig without gutting it.Not gutting it greatly reduces the tools coming in contact with nasty stuff.
If the meat is cooked until well done it is totally safe to eat.Always use a meat thermometer while cooking!
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I always carry gloves and almost always use them for almost all game. Especially in Hawaii, there are some really bad bugs down there! :scared:
I had what we believe was trichinosis once and believe me you DO NOT want to get it. The meds were $2600 ( yea you read that right ) for two weeks worth. Plus it is NO fun to have.
Be safe. :readit:
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I am real bad about not using the gloves. One of the main reasons is this; I cannot remember a time that I have used them that they did not get holes in them anyway and me get hog blood all over my hands anyway. If there was a glove that was durable enough to make it through cleaning a hog, I would probably go back to using them.
Bisch
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Dishwashing gloves are good. The regular surgical gloves fall apart pretty easily and I've torn up every pair I've ever used,too. Plus they tear the hair off of my caveman hands and wrists.
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i *always* carry at least 3 pair of nitrile surgical gloves in a plastic baggie, in my hunting hip pouch. yer skin is an organ and it can easily assimilate any nasties harbored in a critter's gut and blood. would that happen with every animal ya gutted and skinned? naw. but with my luck the first time i didn't use surgical gloves would be my most unlucky day.
(http://i.imgur.com/lJ3exWW.jpg)
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I never did. prob should have, but.....
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I am an idiot, but even when I start with cloves, they usually tear, and I get blood and gore all over my hands. Lucky so far.
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Last fall 2 guys in the middle GA area contracted brucellosis from cleaning hogs on their lease. It is bad stuff. I would use the gloves and clean up well afterwards.
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The yellow-colored gloves that everyone complains of tearing are made of latex. Latex has a very limited shelf life. Use the blue nitrile gloves. They are much stronger and less prone to break down in storage. I know...I work in a lab and have to use protective gloves all the time. As others have commented, there are a lot of nasty diseases/disorders you can contract while handling game. Keep safe and wear gloves!
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Last year, a couple of guys in the area contracted brucellosis from cleaning wild hogs. It is nasty stuff!