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Main Boards => Dangerous Game => Topic started by: fantastixvoyage on March 23, 2010, 06:05:00 PM
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Trying to decide on a hunt for fall 2010 or spring 2011 and was looking at black bear hunting in alaska. Doing a search on here makes it sound like its not all that great so I'm looking for some more feedback.
So i'm curious, is it worthwhile to travel to Alaska for black bear or is something in Canada more worthwhile? I've always wanted to go to Alaska but also want to go where the hunting is good.
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Nobody has been to Alaska for black bear???? I have the chance to go for 50% of full cost or about the same price as a comperable trip in Ontario, etc. Trying to determine if the extra logistics, etc is worth it... Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
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I think it worth it. I've been going to Alaska for the past 4 yrs. We hunt in Prince Willima Sound area, ship out of Wittier. The scenere is beatiful. Last year in that area the bear hunting was not as good as years past. I was skunked this past year. Not sure why. The season was pushed back from Sept 1 to Sept 10. Not sure if thats why but the salmon run was not good at that time. At least that was my experince. But I am going back (God willing) this Sept. You might get more response in the Pow Wow section.
Gilbert
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amicus,
How many have you killed there?
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i have been to alaska black bear hunting i got on a shrimp boat at wrangle alaska used a skiff to go back and forth unguided , to prince of whales island and a few more ,i harvested a pope and young black bear 350 lbs, fished ,crabbed ,took pics whales, saw deer , wolf,eagles galore ,it was a trip af a lifetime for me and one i will never forget i also had the chance to go for 1/2 price and it was a decision im glad i made i would be happy to tell you more . chuck.
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Great this is helpful info! That is the kind of trip I hope for - not just a bear hunt but an experience! Has anyone tried a spring season? That is what this "deal" is for - May or June would need to be the timeframe.
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I went on a May hunt from a boat with Larry Fischer from TBM in 2005 and had the experience of a lifetime, saw over 40 bears, 30 or so Mtn Goats, more eagles then you can imagine, orca and sperm whales, sea otters, moose, etc. Caught halibut and gathered fresh clams as well and was just awesome. Would definitely recommend it. Good luck!
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Mark how was the weather in May? I'd like to time it so I'm there just as the seasons are changing and before the bugs get bad if possible. I've heard a lot of good things about the boat hunts, mine is just out of a base camp. not sure where yet, short flight from Anchorage is all i know so far.
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I also plan to do spot and stalk but they do offer both. Looks like i'm going to have to upgrade my camera as well! Sounds exciting!
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Since you are talking about doing a boat hunt, I'd say yes, it would be worth it. Hunting black bears in the spring is one of my favorite hunts and May is a great time to visit Alaska. Happy hunting!
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I went the last week in May about 10 years ago. in the prince William sound. We saw a lot of bears, I was close on a few, My Dad had a shot. The biggest problem we had was vegetation. The leaves were just starting to come out and the bears could dissapear one step off the avalanche shoots. That being said, I think I could have managed a bear had I thought about sitting and waiting for one. some bears were predictable and in the same shoots every day at the same time, I was too hung up on stalking that i didn't even think about ambushing them.
I will never forget such an awesome hunt.
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Charles, I have taken 2 bears. My first one was at 16 yrds. The second one about 25 yrds. My first black bear was my first big game traditional kill. The first 2 yrs we saw 20 to 30 bears a day. Last year was weired not sure what happened but the bears were few and far between. Im sure it had to do with the season being pushed forward to the 10th instead of the 1st. Also not a whole lot of fish. Hopefully this year will be like my first. Alaska is breath taking, I love it.
Good luck.
Gilbert
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spring in the sound can be pretty good, but if you are spot and stalking you have to go early enought that their isnt alot of green on the willows and alders, but not to early as you wont have any green on the slides and no bears, fall in the sound can be insane if you are on the fish. I comercial fished there for a good bit and there were places we would see 20 at a time on the shore, there also was other places where we would see just 1 every day and they were huge. if the fish arnt there the bears are on berries so start glassing up on the mountains and youll see them.
last year me and two friends from texas went, I got one spot and stalk within 24hours and they both shot one on bait.
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jr, your right about being on berrys. Every scat we did run into was purple. It was hard to see up those mountains, very thick. I have heard that salmon have their good years and their bad years. The first and second year we had to kick the salmon out of the way to cross the creeks. They were super thick. This last year, same creeks, hardly any fish.
Do you think it had to do with the Black bear season date change, from Sept 1 to Sept 10?
Gilbert
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What is everyone finding for prices? I have an opportunity to go for around $2k, but I don't know much about the outfitter.
Looking online it appears most places are $4500-5500 for 5 days. Plus of course the airfare, etc.
Also what is the general take on traditional equipment up there? Is it taken seriously or do they prefer rifle hunters?
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If you are hunting in the spring there will not be may salmon in the streams. Spring time most generally has the best weather. A short flight from Anchorage depending on the direction you could be in Prince William Sound, or across Cook Inlet in Unit 16? Two entirely different areas. But both of them have quite a few black bears. If I can help you send me a PM.
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amicus, the date change had some to do with it but on good fish years, especialy near the hatchereys like Unakwik, Esther, and southwest the fish are still swimming through september, we usualy quit fishing them at the end of august due to quality but there could be good quantity, and as far as i know there are carcasas on the beaches for at least two months after september. if you didnt see a bunch of black schools of humpys then it was a bad fish year.
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also if there isnt alot of fish i see bears at the verry head of the fjords right up around the glaciers, this is usualy where the beaches are sandy or loose gravel and i have seen them digging alot, I dont know what for because i dont think clams live it that much silt.
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Looks like I'm in for 2011!!! Anyone hunt with Bearfoot Adventures???
http://www.bearfootadventures.net/
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Had a great hunt this year in May with Homer Ocean Charters.. Got a very nice boar and some nice Halibut too boot. "Spot and Stalk" on fresh spring grass.. probably saw 40+ bears from the boat [our 60' home base for the hunt]
I was lucky and had 4 boars that were stalkable at different times in the inlet I was concentrating on.
Three others on the hunt [ all trad guys] had shot opps. But 2 guys had no shot opps at all. The guy who I feel was definately the most experienced hunter on the trip never did get to try and close the deal with a bear.. and definately not from his lack of trying !!!
I had a great time and if $$ situation ever allows a futuer hunt I would do it again in a Heartbeat!!
BTW, my taxidermist called a couple days ago and said my bear measured just shy of 6' but should make 6' after finishing my rug. He said hide was a bit dry [ salted and dry ] when measured, and that tanning would return it to a more realistic lenght.
Gene
Gene :wavey:
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Weather was very nice, no bugs, nice and cool during the day, did have some snow 1 day, the day we decided to fish, imagine that! But fairly nice, little rain, really a great trip!
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Our weather was also great.. I actually spent from May 18th thru June 4th there this spring and only encountered a very slight mist in the air one morning and this was after the hunt..
Cost.. this year was $3000 per person for HOC[ 6 max on the boat]. I paid $550 round trip for airfare from Portland Ore. to Anchorage add aprox $250 if you want to connect on to Homer roundtrip. I was lucky, as I have a brother who lives in Anchorage and I borrowed his pick-up for the trip down and back to Homer for I and Thomas Burns, another hunter on this trip. I just left it parked in HOC's parking area while hunting].
I think $350.00 was really close for hunting/fishing license and bear tags.
We went out on Sunday AM and returned on Friday afternoon around 5 PM.... When not hunting, which was best from 5 PM till about 11Pm] We got to spend plenty of time fishing for halibut in the surrounding waters. I actually caught an aprox. 38# halibut while anchored in our regular spot for hunting one afternoon.
I left two beautiful damascus knoves [ by "Skullworks" along with $320 as a gratuity for our wonderful 2 man crew.. My total for the hunt was right at $4350 including the shipping of fish and bear hide and skull..
You really need to consider a room both the night prior to the hunt and the evening you return to Homer, to have time to insure all your sending home [ game and fish ] is taken care of and that propper shipping instructions are understood by the shippers as you need to stipulate the day you want your frozen boxes to arrive at your home if you use Fedex... I would suggest having all game and hides processed [ packaged and frozen]and taking it with you on the plane home.
Here's the thing.. my hide and head was frozen [on the boat] and still frozen upon return to Homer, The skull needs to be removed from the hide if your not getting the rug etc. done in AK. Otherwise you can't fly with it.. therefore I had to wait until after we left Homer for it to be taken to the processor as it took two days to defrost enough to remove the skull [ done by a local taxerdimist that meets the boat on return to port] and seals the hide [ he's under contract with the state to do this] so that it could be included in my fedex shipment.. Had it been seperated prior to freezing on the boat, it would have made shipment home with me on the plane really simple and alot cheaper.
Save lots of money by having your fish processed and bring them back frozen on the plane... about a $1.00 per/lb to totally process fish and vaccumn seal and "flash" freeze, plus about $25.00 for a styroform lined box. :wavey:
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As far as the question "is it worth it" I would gofor the experience of hunting Alaska. If the goal is just to get a black bear there are plenty of places in your home state of Michigan you could bag one. But for all the experiences listed above I would definitely go.
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Great story Lloyd. Brings back good memeories and a strong desire to go back. 4 of us hunted with HOC in 2001. I got the only bear and a 85# halibut. It was an awesome time had by all. The days on front and behind the hunt are an excellent idea. Baggage on the plane then was a lot easier then and we were able to take everything with us. i think I was the only one to pay extra and it was only $75. We each brought back 90# of halibut filets.
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Great information. Are you planning to go in the Spring or Fall of 2011?
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2K is a bargain. Most of the boat based hunts are now around $3500 plus air. The prices have gone up a lot in the last few years, but they are great fun. Alaska is a place you will want to go to more than once. Homer Ocean and Alaska Coastal Marine are both very good for boat hunts.
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I live in Alaska, and the black bears are thick here. There are some areas where they are doing anti predation hunts due to decimation of the moose population. I think there's a guy that has a lodge on the Yentna river that will take you right into the middle of one of the largest populations of black bears in the state. If you hit it at the right time, you won't have to get very far up river to get into the bears. If you travel to Alaska in the spring, we have the Great Alaska Sportsman Show every year at The Sullivan Arena in Anchorage. There you can get the absolute best deals on hunts or combos. Good luck! Oh, and bring a back-up weapon. As they say, "Welcome to Alaska, step off the airplane and into the food chain". Grizzly bears are no joke.....really.
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Wow hunting black bears in Alaska does not seem to cost as much as I though.Lots of planning goes along way.Great info guys.