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Main Boards => Dangerous Game => Topic started by: oqARROWcb on February 24, 2017, 02:43:00 AM
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Hello everyone. I am new here and new to archery. Found out I love it more than firearms. I am working out and getting myself to form. Later on down the road I want to go on safari for dangerous game with a recurve my favorite bow. Hoyt is my favorite hunting brand and as I understand it they will do some special orders for a price for you. But I wanted to get you gentlemen and ladies who are veterans and experts to please give me your opinion on this. First will Hoyt if I call them will they make me some 100 lb. draw limbs for my recurve? Second what is your opinion on a good safari outfitter? Please be aware it will be some time before I work my way up to firing 100 lb. draw limbs and stalking a Cape Buffalo as well.
Thank you all for your help
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I would suggest that 100# draw weight is WAY down the road for a beginning archer and is probably not in the cards at all. You will notice that there are very few hunters here who handle any thing close to that, even for the really dangerous stuff.
However, if you are determined to draw that much weight, plan on a long, long training regimen. Go slow. Personally, I don't think you need it. I have pulled that much weight a few times, but I simply don't have the physical makeup to handle it. Few of us do.
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If you are new to archery, what makes you think you can pull 100#? Fewer than 1% of the people on this website are capable of doing this. I know I can't. I can't even come close. That said, you may be better thinking about being able to pull and accurately shoot 75-80#. That is very tough to do, but doable for some. An 80# bow coupled with a well-constructed arrow and good shooting skills should kill most everything out there.
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I agree with both replies. That being said, I had an uncle that shot a 100# longbow years ago, with incredible accuracy, able to take pheasant with it, he was a freak of nature for sure. Just don't get discouraged if you aren't able to reach your 100# mark. The most important thing is developing good form and accuracy...a well-placed arrow out of a 70-80# bow will be much more lethal than an errant arrow out of a bow you can barely pull with poor form. Good luck
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First off all of above info is good advice. Very few bow companies will even go near 100# and I'm not aware of any traditional companies that do so any longer. There are used bows out there in this weight range. I'm a heavy bow shooter where 70lb is my normal weight but my maximum is 84# and that takes me almost three months to work up to shooting it well. If you can handle the heavy weights and shoot them every day 4-5 arrows you can maintain it year round but the everyday is required. I will advise that no matter your strength keep in mind that your body was not designed to pull and shoot 100# trad bows. Although it can be done you will regret it as you age in life.
A 75-80# bow with 900gr arrows will kill every critter on earth. I suggest you work up to whatever weight you can handle well and then maintain it.
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Thank you all gentlemen this has been brought to my attention and yes 80 # draw weight is my end goal down the road as no animal on earth walking can stand up to 80 # draw with a 950 gr arrow thank you gents
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Heaviest set of limbs I have are 75#, bit 82# maxed out at my draw length. They are Morrison ILF carbon foam ILF limbs, but I don't think is making limbs like that anymore. Older Howard Hill style bows are out there that are one piece bows that are good for hunting and training, and you can occasionally find a used one that is at or near 100# pretty inexpensively. I used a HH Rogue that was 95# at my draw length for training before my water Buffalo hunt.
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I assume you are right handed. There is a 92# one piece Robertson longbow on rmsgear.com right now. If you were left handed their is a nice Robertson 3 piece Recurve that is 83#@30", so probably 75-76#@28". I would probably jump on that myself if I didn't already have a few heavier bows.
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And Dave, are you still shooting those 84# limbs?
I still have that 75# Dakota that I got from you, but it sits on the bow rack for the most part since it is a one piece.
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Thank you all gentlemen Sky Archery will make me a set of recurve limbs at 100# or more if I want it. I have been gaining more info as I go along. I just want to pull that weight for my own goals not to shoot 50 arrows with it every day just enough so I can shoot accurately to take a Cape Buff at 12 to 15 yards. I am working out my body to get stronger. Maybe I will regret pulling that weight late in life but at least I'll know when it hurts I'll know that I have lived.
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Sounds like you have some great goals set for yourself! I don't think hoyt makes limbs very heavy anymore so it is good that Jim will make you some, best advice for building up is to go slow. Really learn to control and execute each shot with your bow before you move up in weight.
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How are you? A few workouts that have helped me to go up weight have been different variations of pullups. Wide grip, and normal grip. What i do is pull up so that the muscles are engaged, then hold for a few seconds. Then slowly lower myself down.
I will also use bands or at the gym, cables and start with a comfortable weight, then up 10lbs archery set. 4 sets is good.
If you have any other questions, you can message me.
Best,
Bramos
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Hello, I've never been to Africa... it's just really got my interest recently so we will see what future holds there..., but I will say this a friend of mine, Mr. dale sold he his Schafer taken down recently... with that said this bow has killed perhaps largest male lion ever taken with recurve, an extremely large Cape buffalo and kudu... the bow pulls currently 61 ish at 28 and was marked for 72 pds at 29 1/2".
I believe mr. Dales arrows was about 800 grains Easton full metal jacket.
With top notch equipment the job will get done with authority. Congrats to the great passion of bowhinting as well.
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Hello, I've never been to Africa... it's just really got my interest recently so we will see what future holds there..., but I will say this a friend of mine, Mr. dale sold he his Schafer taken down recently... with that said this bow has killed perhaps largest male lion ever taken with recurve, an extremely large Cape buffalo and kudu... the bow pulls currently 61 ish at 28 and was marked for 72 pds at 29 1/2".
I believe mr. Dales arrows was about 800 grains Easton full metal jacket.
With top notch equipment the job will get done with authority. Congrats to the great passion of bowhinting as well.
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For newbie is way too much, i would recommend to find shop in your area and try to swing it
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I don’t know the answer to your questions, but am quite certain you do not need 100# to kill a cape buffalo. I just got back from a trip to South Africa in August. On that trip, my buddy killed a cape buffalo with a 74# black widow and an 850ish grain arrow. He made a perfect shot, and the buffalo was dead in under a hundred yards!
I do believe that you should hunt with as much draw weight as you can shoot well though. Good luck wit it!
Bisch
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I would suggest a TOTALLY different bow.
My 100# 60 inch recurve is MUCH harder to pull than my 72 inch 115# longbow.....you need more length for a smoother pull due to leverage.
I also don't think you need 100#s....for buff 80# would be perfect to erase any doubts if it is a sound modern design.
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I think Karen Campbell took her Asiatic buff with a 70# bow