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Main Boards => Trad History/Collecting => Topic started by: AALLFAB on March 03, 2014, 06:19:00 PM
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there is a new seller of vintage bows mrgnk1
The heads up part is the removed accounts named longlazar and ccwest and this new seller are all the same person that many of us have discussed previously and well understand why the old accounts were closed by the auction site.
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I appreciate the heads up. I am watching a bow listed by that seller. Thank you.
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Thanks for the tip Jim. That guy keeps trying to shed that white stripe! :thumbsup:
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Looks like some good pieces but first you would have to actually receive a purchased item at all then there would have to be no conveniently non photographed problems then what is up with the new trick of $40 shipping.
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He's listed a 62" Wing Thunderbird - LH....wow...oh well, don't want to lose the $40 in shipping...plus shipping back. Appreciate the heads up
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I appreciate the new name. Remember CCWEST1964 all to well!!!!!!
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What's the deal with this person. I've been watching three of their bows and two have disappeared. Can anyone elaborate on past dealings?
BTW, thanks for the heads up...
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What did he do?
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It is hard to get kicked off the auction site and he has been kicked off twice. Many here have had claim of sour purchase deals and he is by many accounts exceptionally over the top rude to the level of name calling and even leaving feedback on buyers calling them abrasive names. My personal experience is rude emails and he refused to send me a bow I won because it did not sell for enough then said he made up a story how he broke it then I saw it relisted and sell 2 weeks later with no damage.
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I was following a cool looking Groves Spitfire he had listed. In his add he had some very abrasive remarks about the person he acquired the bow from. Guess I'm not surprised at what AALLFAB just shared. It's a shame because I was really interested in the bow.
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He made a purchase from me a few years ago, and altered the bow. Then I get a nasty E mail from him about how he had to do so much work on the bow because the strike plate, and rest was custom by previous owner and glued on. He was very vulgar. I proceeded to tell him that I would have offered to have him send the bow back, but he already killed that with his attitude, and remarks. He left a negative feedback for which **** wouldn't change. The bow was described well and pictures very clear of bow as I do with every single one I list. There was nothing wrong with my description and pictures were perfectly clear of the strike plate area. This guy likes to buy bows, and flip them quickly. The bow he bought was roughly purchased for $60 and I knew what stunt he was trying to pull. I have been told by others that he is notorious for claiming something wrong to keep a bow, but get cash back. I knew that was what he was trying with me. He made two mistakes. Number one he was vulgar from the start. Number two he had already made alterations when he posed his complaint. If anyone knows of other Alias he is using; please post. He is likely running a buyers account by now also. Notice on the bows he is selling; that he is offering to take checks in the listing. This is already a strike that he can be turned in for as that is no longer allowed under the site rules.
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Q:
why is the kodiac no longer listed?
Mar-08-14
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**** took it off because I stated, in the description, that I accept checks. Screw ****; it's not enough that they take 10% but they want to make the extra 3% from PayPal. Then PayPal wants to keep my money for 3 or 4 weeks because "I'm in a newer **** account. I'm thinking of removing the rest of my auctions. I might list them on Tradbow.com or even gunbroker. I'll entertain offers until that point when they are relisted on a site that doesn't piss me off so much. I'm not even that mad about the amount of ****'s take but as if I don't have enough to do, the time I spent on listing: photographing, editing, etc.WAS WASTED. Now I have to do it ALL OVER AGAIN"
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Above is a warning that you may see these bows come up on other sites. Not to mention you can see the poor attitude in his response to a question on the big site.
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I am a well known picky buyer myself but this guy is in a class of his own making up stuff clearly already covered in a listing and his attitude. Glad you found ways to remind him of his past. I will call the sale site to let them on to that this is at least his third account.
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What's your name on Big site so I can put you on blocked bidder list? lol Just kidding Good for you taking the time to ensure others don't suffer the same as some of us have.
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Funny and thanks and I understand sometimes things are honestly not discovered upon casual inspection. Everyone hopefully gets it that a bow is a high performance piece of art.
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Anybody know this guys name and where he is from?
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Dave Azar I believe. From MI
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I know a guy that recently got a bow from him and said he was great to work with. It sounds like it may be just what it is, the guy sounds completely PO'd at the auction site and their new policies. The auction site owns paypal and they want everyone to use it. Less and less sellers will take money orders. The auction site wants their 3% off the top.
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Does the guy have ridiculously high prices as well?
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(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z117/katswal/mrmxyztplk_zpse883465c.jpg) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/katswal/media/mrmxyztplk_zpse883465c.jpg.html)
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me three times, forget about it.
Three seller IDs for one guy is not good. The new policies on the big site protect the buyer - any seller angry at this "change" is worried about his products. I agree with both sides on this one - but I would only pay using Paypal and free shipping! (If the deal was a bust, I would get a full refund that way, even if it took a month.)
Mr Mrmxyzptlk's recent feedback from a happy buyer - Actual shipping was $20.85 so I expect a refund of $19.15 (paid $40 to ship)
Mr. Mrmxyzptlk's response - Fine ****er: leaves the DUMBEST feedback ever.
CCWest1964 would have replied "another mentally impaired ****er; a pimple on the butt of society," or "obvious Offspring of incestuous relationship" or "buyer lies, is on blocked bidder list, should go back to Afghanistan." To be fair, these three guys never called any kettles or pots black, but they mostly buy and sell bows and knives.
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Hello all.
My life has had me preoccupied for a awhile, so I haven't been posting here. I have still been able to dabble in the buy, sell, and trade market though.
There have been times I have been lucky and scored a great deal. There have also been times I have been burned. There have been times I have shied away from a deal. And times I have had a buyer nit pick an item to death, something which was made "sixty" + yrs ago, used for forty of those yrs and then stored for another twenty in a storage unit or garage.... and the buyer wants it to as pristine as a new baby's butt. There have also been many many times I have had good deals and received great comments from people buying or trading with me, those make me enjoy this community...
I will pass on a couple more of my thoughts:
1) As has been said here so many times: The best protection is a hands on sale, see the item for yourself and buy accordingly.
"But if you are going to swim in the murky waters expect leaches"...
2) The definition of a good deal is when the buyer and seller are both happy...
"regardless of what everyone else thinks"...
& 3) Judge not lest yea be judged;
I have also been on the receiving end of someone "spreading the word" that an item I was selling was in their "opinion" JUNK when in fact there was nothing wrong with it.... It leaves a really bad taste and sting when you honestly present an item for sale, only to find out a person, who had no intention of considering buying it, is poisoning the pool by handing out their condemnation...
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This is exactly why the protection offered by PayPal to buyers is so important.
If it isn't junk, you keep it. If it is, you get a refund.
I looked over the feedback from all three identities before I weighed in. It is very easy to check references. Google the three seller aliases and you will be linked to the big E site that has all the feedback for all three aliases. This multiple personality seller flips a lot of bows, and I would not be surprised if "they" were lurking right now and reading these posts.
Here is feedback from 20 buyers on the big E about longlazar/ccwest1964/mrgnk1:
Beware; seller misrepresents merchandise and is difficult to deal with
LIAR! THIEF! Email me, I'll copy his dirty emails to you! Low-Class Seller! Lies
won item ,never received, money refunded
Bow was described as "excellent" "mint" "straight". It was a twisted mess.
WonPaidSellerTriedToExtortMore$'ToShipAfterListingClosedHowDoYouSpell-----SNAKE!
I don't know if it was the heat & packing stress but both limbs are twisted abit
No communication from seller,incomplete&late shipment,over estimated condition
sent payment not once but twice. bow sell to low? i choose u not to pay. Crook
bow offered 3 times, cancelled 2nd time due to GREED, SHE NEEDS TO USE RESERVE
Bow Not as nice as described,hid small nail under arrow rest he put on,Shootable
Very dispointed in the bow, major cracks many areas, repaired, lost $
Second-Class THIEF! Knowingly sold DAMAGED and REPAIRED bow! Email me for proof!
Sent me twisted bow,won`t own up to it-Theif- he has my money-He`s Rude,Ignorant
Seller sent cracked bow/ said it "must have happened during shipping". Right
17 negatives/ complete ripoff/ bow was cracked bad/ lied about refund/ idiot !!!
said "near mint museum qual", had replacement decal(not shown) and cracks!
Item was stolen prior to shipment, payment was returned.
Won't answer e-mail so he can sell at higher $$$ - Poor communicator bad seller
Ware nicht eingetroffen trotz Zahlung ( translates as: goods not arrived despite cash)
I would NEVER buy from longlaser, He will NOT refund costs after promising to!!
Judge not, but don't be naive.
This is the reason there is no buying or selling on this forum, and the reason the TradGang classifieds are so carefully monitored.
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My friend sold a bow to him on the big auction. He received it, complained that it was not as listed. It clearly was. My friend being the care free trad guy that he is, said no problem, immediately electronically sent his refund and return shipping for the bow.
No bow came. When he called the shady buyer, he did at least answer my friend. He was keeping the bow, keeping the refund and selling the bow when he was done. Tough crap, you lose.
I hope my friend never catches up with him. He is 6'1,230# lean, held the natural world powerlifting record some years ago and is a Thai fighter.
The trad world is no place for scumbags.
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David, that's theft and I am sure he could have done something about it. I was feeling the same way your friend did. Sad we have some shady people in this community. The guy has many enemies. I have no idea how he sleeps at night. Tried the same thing with me, but I knew better than to give in. Besides; his true colors from E mail made it obvious enough to mr right off the bat. Likely we will see a new name from him as I turned all his listings in, and **** pulled them.
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Atta boy Shane. No clue why my friend didn't push it.
Glad you did.
We will be watching for him and alert everyone when he's spotted.
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He's baaackk. Caveat emptor.
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Under what name now? and what for sale?