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Title: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: Marvin Clyncke on September 10, 2014, 12:48:00 PM
Folks; I just bought a Howatt Hunter, 62", 42# with a serial number that indicates 1971. The riser is gorgeous Brazillian rosewood, but it has white glass both sides instead of black or brown glasss. Never saw one with white glass. Can anyone fill me in on it. I have some pics but don't know how to post them here. I could send them e-mail- [email protected].
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: Blackhawk on September 10, 2014, 03:09:00 PM
Mr. Clyncke, send me the pics and I will try to post here for you.

[email protected]

BTW, that sounds like an interesting piece.  I believe the Monterey was very similar to the Hunter and was subsequently discontinued.  Could the folks at Howatt just wanted to use up the surplus white glass?
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: reddogge on September 10, 2014, 04:17:00 PM
In the 60s Howatt used several colors of glass on the limbs, black, white, light green and burnt orange. No rhyme nor reason to me on the pattern either.
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: cacciatore on September 12, 2014, 01:37:00 PM
Marv,why do you think your can be a 1971?
A pic could help to date it.
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: ron w on September 12, 2014, 07:32:00 PM
Sounds like a neat bow........
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: bowhunterfrompast on September 12, 2014, 07:48:00 PM
Pictures of Marvin Clyncke's Howatt Hunter

  (http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv341/bowhunterfrompast/Posted%20pics/MVC-050S_zpsdaee6b27.jpg) (http://s698.photobucket.com/user/bowhunterfrompast/media/Posted%20pics/MVC-050S_zpsdaee6b27.jpg.html)

  (http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv341/bowhunterfrompast/Posted%20pics/MVC-051S_zps6a86865e.jpg) (http://s698.photobucket.com/user/bowhunterfrompast/media/Posted%20pics/MVC-051S_zps6a86865e.jpg.html)

  (http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv341/bowhunterfrompast/Posted%20pics/MVC-052S_zps024bef2d.jpg) (http://s698.photobucket.com/user/bowhunterfrompast/media/Posted%20pics/MVC-052S_zps024bef2d.jpg.html)

  (http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv341/bowhunterfrompast/Posted%20pics/MVC-053S_zps7bd674e7.jpg) (http://s698.photobucket.com/user/bowhunterfrompast/media/Posted%20pics/MVC-053S_zps7bd674e7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: bowhunterfrompast on September 12, 2014, 07:49:00 PM
More pictures

  (http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv341/bowhunterfrompast/Posted%20pics/MVC-054S_zps79a38dc7.jpg) (http://s698.photobucket.com/user/bowhunterfrompast/media/Posted%20pics/MVC-054S_zps79a38dc7.jpg.html)

  (http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv341/bowhunterfrompast/Posted%20pics/MVC-055S_zps9f03081f.jpg) (http://s698.photobucket.com/user/bowhunterfrompast/media/Posted%20pics/MVC-055S_zps9f03081f.jpg.html)

  (http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv341/bowhunterfrompast/Posted%20pics/MVC-056S_zps6aa9a220.jpg) (http://s698.photobucket.com/user/bowhunterfrompast/media/Posted%20pics/MVC-056S_zps6aa9a220.jpg.html)

  (http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv341/bowhunterfrompast/Posted%20pics/MVC-057S_zpsdc1aec02.jpg) (http://s698.photobucket.com/user/bowhunterfrompast/media/Posted%20pics/MVC-057S_zpsdc1aec02.jpg.html)
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: Marvin Clyncke on September 12, 2014, 09:28:00 PM
I was told the 1st number indicates the year it was made-1971 was the closest to when they were making risers with Brazillion rosewood. Just my guess. That's why I'd like to find out more about it.
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: ron w on September 12, 2014, 09:36:00 PM
Wow, that is in nice condition!!
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: Marvin Clyncke on September 13, 2014, 10:12:00 AM
It doesn't appear to have ever been shot. The string is the old dacron kind with cotton serving which would be correct for the period.
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: Horney Toad on September 13, 2014, 11:01:00 AM
pretty wood for sure!
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: reddogge on September 13, 2014, 11:02:00 AM
The riser looks identical to mine with orange glass.

   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/reddogge/Archery/79afa644-97be-4898-9558-241e0bbe831b_zps432893bd.jpg)
   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0603/reddogge/Archery/IMG_1432.jpg)
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: PAPALAPIN on September 13, 2014, 10:05:00 PM
I may be 100% wrong here, but I think that bow is from the early or mid  '60's.  I'p pretty sure that is when the NE PLUS was in production.  Main characteristic is a beautiful piece of solid rosewood with no accent stripes.  The bow may have been special ordered as a tournament or target bow, hence the white glass.

Just my thoughts ,,, even if they are wrong.  LOL
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: reddogge on September 13, 2014, 10:43:00 PM
Jack,
All of that era Hunters had risers with 3 pieces of rosewood laminated, not solid. Look closely at his bow and mine. I also thought mine was from the early 60s.
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: Ted Fry on September 14, 2014, 04:41:00 PM
You can not date Howatts by the date alone, you really need to see the wood it was made of as certain years had certain options and choices of wood for certain models as well as handle shape.
They changed every 10 years to that same # and from 1959-1963 didnt even use that system but rather the # of the bowyer that made it was the first # as they were paid by piece work.
Marv , your bow is from early to mid 1960s and the color of glass may have been a custom order , they used lots of white on Ventura bows of that era and maybe the customer just wanted white.
I have ordered bows from Howatt with different woods and glass for customers through the years, just by calling Larry and making a change.
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: TonyW on September 14, 2014, 09:52:00 PM
Here ya go

  http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=14;t=002145#000001


and here

 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=14;t=006034#000000
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: Marvin Clyncke on September 15, 2014, 04:34:00 PM
Guys; Thanks a bunch for all the help in dating this bow. Ted's comments really nail it.
thanks again,
Marv
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: Marvin Clyncke on September 18, 2014, 10:43:00 AM
Guys; Thanks for all the info on this bow.
Marv
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: Keefer on September 20, 2014, 01:29:00 PM
With the curved in the riser where it is rounded on the face looks like a 1963 to me It's not flat at the edge so to speak but rounded over on the shelf side...I don't think that roundness went into the bows of the 70's...
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: Hobow on September 21, 2014, 12:43:00 AM
When looking at Howatts, keep in mind that their bows didn't have the marking "A.M.O." prior to 1966.  

That is a quick way to determine if it is an earlier or later bow.

Brad
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: 59Alaskan on September 21, 2014, 10:39:00 AM
That is a very neat bow!  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: PAPALAPIN on September 22, 2014, 02:09:00 PM
Ready to be proven wrong ... but based on what Ted said, I still say the NE PLUS HUNTERS were from the early '60's
Title: Re: odd Howatt Hunter
Post by: reddogge on September 22, 2014, 05:06:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by PAPALAPIN:
Ready to be proven wrong ... but based on what Ted said, I still say the NE PLUS HUNTERS were from the early '60's
And I agree.