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Main Boards => Prayers/Concerns/Honors/Ailments => Topic started by: Winterhawk1960 on December 28, 2010, 10:42:00 PM
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Well folks, the time has come for me to get this shoulder fixed. I have spent the last month sleeping in my recliner because it is to painful to sleep in bed. When I sleep in bed, I can't help it and end up on the shoulder.....then I am awake and the shoulder hurts like a toothache for the next couple of hours and I can't get back to sleep.
I've already had an MRI, my general practitioner says that I have a supraspinatus tendon tear and has referred me to an orthopedic surgeon this coming Thursday. I have a hunch that there might be a spur or two present also......we'll see. I will know more after consulting with him, but I am sure that it will require surgery at this point. I have been fighting with this for several years and it has progressively gotten worse. Today, I got together with my shooting buddy and I couldn't shoot.......to much pain to concentrate on anything but the "hurt" and my form was all messed up. Drawing elbow was to high......and I just gave up trying.
I'm not gonna put it off, I will have the surgery just as soon as I can get it scheduled, if that is what is recommended. I can and WILL be shooting again before Comptons in June, you can bet your last dollar on that. I have plenty of time to get through the physical therapy and be able to shoot comfortably and hopefully "well" again. I don't really know "why" I felt the need to tell ya'll this, because I know several of you have already been here and done this.....perhaps I am just having a hard time "accepting" the fact that I'm gonna have to just "look" at all those purdy bows on my rack, and not be able to shoot them. :dunno:
In time.......this too, shall pass. I know and believe that.......I just don't know what the heck I'm gonna do to keep myself busy. Lord knows, I need all the practice that I can get.
Winterhawk1960
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God Bless 'Ya. Do your physical therapy and give it enough time to heal up.
Best of luck and a good outcome! :thumbsup:
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Don,
Good luck with the surgery. I know you will be a good boy and recover quickly. I'll be watching for you at Compton's!
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Best of luck to you Don. May you heal quickly!!
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You'll be in my prayers.
Remember do just what the Dr. tells you to do. No more, no less. Do the exercises everyday.
DO WHAT THE DR. SAYS!
Have avoided surgery so far, but I had to do exactly what the Dr. said to do. Its comming, but he said if I do what the Dr. says, I can put it off for a few years. (heck I'm almost 60, whats a litle more pain?) I know what you mean about sleeping in a recliner, been there done that.
Do what the Dr. says.
JAG/Johnny
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A friend that is a pro hunter and shoots trad had that surgery and he was back to shooting within a couple of months.
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I feel your pain Brother, I'm shooting but a lots less weight?
You will be back with your attitude...take your time and don't force the healing :)
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I've had both of mine worked on...Right side was bad, as Deltiod detatched and had to be re-attached to post in my shoulder joint...that one took about 8 months until all was well... Left side was easier as it was just a torn rotor cuff... healed very quickly... As others have suggested, do as your Dr and therapist advise.. you'll wonder why you waited so long to have it fixed. :wavey:
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I had both done too...............do all the physio and follow advice-you will be back in (almost) no time.
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Wishing you successful surgery and a quick, full recovery Don.
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I'm not looking foward to it myself. I have to get a torn bicep reatached and the cuff done. "It's over Johnny"
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Lay in some arrowmaking supplies, and pens and paint. You can hand-draw the targets that you will be shooting your first pain-free arrows at.
Best of luck, may all go smoothly and put you back on the course, better than ever!
Killdeer
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Good luck on your surgery. DON'T PUSH IT. Do what the doctors say, and you will be as good as new in no time. This will give you time to get plenty of arrows done. Prayers sent.
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Good luck and a speedy recovery! Better now than later sleepless nights can lead to a lot more problems. Prayers sent.
Keeping the Faith!
Magnus
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Don, Good Luck... you and I will be in great shape
for Comptons. If we can't shoot maybe we can
set up a day care for us older archers :campfire:
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I wish you the best. I have been having pain in my left elbow and shoulder too. I am in the Air Force and we do lots of push-ups. I went to the Dr. and they told me I can not do any more push-ups of little over 20 pounds for the next 2 months. I hope everything goes great for you am maybe we will both be cleared to go Turkey hunting next Spring.
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Like others have said...don't push it. Docs told me no work for 6wks. Surgeons think they're soo smart, they don't know me, I felt fine. So I went back to work a week after my medical stuff. BIG mistake. What a boob I was! Good luck....Phil
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Don,good luck for your surgery.I'll pray for a quick recovery.Keep us posted bro.
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Be brave...my thoughts are with you.
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Buy an old 30# target bow and make some light arrows so when you are well into rehab you can do some shooting at least. I started back from torn elbow tendon surgery with my grandsons' 20# Bear Little Bear bow and worked up to a 30# Browning Nomad II and then to full hunting weights.
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Had both shoulders cut on a few years ago. I had spurs and bad tears in both. Just take your time with your therapy and don't push it. Very painful after surgery for a month or two but you will be as good as new in 3-4 months. I was able to draw my 67# Widow about 3 months after.
God bless
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Don,
Best of luck with the "new shoulder" and like others have said take it easy and slowly and maybe all those pretty bows will get a work out before you know it.
Take care, Buddy.
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The Saturday before last Thanksgiving (2010) I spent the night at the ER, in horrible shoulder pain that was brought on by shooting a new-to-me 72# longbow, when I usually shoot around 62#. An MRI later told the doc that it was tendonitis and a mild deep tear somewhere (I forgot where exactly).
I feel your pain, literally. It was 3 weeks before I could sleep more than 3-4 hours at a time, and upon waking up, the pain gnawed away at me for at least 2 hours. It really ruined the last week of my vacation -- I was in Alaska for 2 weeks, and I didn't get to hunt at all! The arm still really hurts if I roll over on it while sleeping.
Good luck, and I hope you get to feeling better soon.
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Been there, done that. This is definitely a good time of year to get it done, if all goes well, shooting by Compton is a real doable goal. You won't regret getting it done. Getting rid of the constant, nagging pain is worth all the temporary pain experienced from the surgery. I fought mine for a long time, no sleep, and eating ibufrofin like it was candy. Good luck with your recovery.
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Good luck Hawk - prayers for a speedy recovery. Good time of yr to get it done and get it outta the way.
Jason
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Reading your story was a flash back for me. A couple of years back I went through an identical set of circumstances, left shoulder, spurs, tear. As others have said, do exactly what your doctor and therapist say. Take your time and once you get the go to pick up the bow, start light and gradually work up. My surgery was in Jan. and I was hunting that fall with a lighter bow than previous years but still hunted. I was a full year + getting to 100%. Be patient and you will have a brand new shoulder. I found that my ordeal was a blessing to my form. By starting light and working back my form is now the best it has ever been. Good luck!! sw
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Don i've had more surgures than I can count,follow your doctors advice do you physical therapy and don't rush things youll be fine good luck Larry.
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Hope all goes well for you as you get healed up! You picked a good time of year to do this. You should be good to go come hunting season.
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Hate to hear it Don, but from a friends outside perspective being able to sleep with my beautiful wife would be better than shooting a beautiful bow...Hahaha couldn't pass that one up.
Seriously hope you get back on track soon as I enjoyed shooting with you at Comptons last year. Hopefully we will both be there again in 2011.
Keep me informed on your progress.
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I hate this for you Don, it was hard for me to see yesterday. We will build some arrows while you are down. Ya can never have to many........
Glad you are going to get it taken care of, so you can be pain free.
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Thank-You.......EVERYONE for the well-wishes and prayers. I'm a stubborn old coot and ain't about to give up the one thing that I get so much enjoyment out of. I'll get there, and will report back tomorrow after talking to the Doc.
I happen to have a 30# @ 28" bow available (it's my niece's) and will do what I have to do to get myself back to "normal"......whatever that is. I know that this IS indeed the BEST time of the year, if there is one, to get this taken care of. I have a lot of time, to be able to work myself back up to my normal bow weights, which aren't that high to begin with. The one thing that I won't be able to do is miss work, but I have a very understanding boss and I will be able to do most everything within my jobs scope of practice, except compressions and intubations until I get healed up. I'm NOT helpless, but feel very limited with it right now.
TJ, I agree with YOU whole-heartedly !!!! It STINKS having to sleep in a dang chair.
I knew that a lot of ya'll had already been through this and am very thankful for the support. DANG......I turned 50 and started falling apart, but I have to admit.......the alternative is worse.
You know.......in all seriousness, the thing that I am gonna miss the MOST during my recovery is NOT being able to shoot with you Bryan. We've solved a lot of "world problems" in our weekly shooting sessions over the past year or so.
Don't worry folks......I'll be "Back in the Saddle" before ya know it. I'm to stubborn, not to be.
Winterhawk1960
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Good luck, Don! I got over mine sans surgery, but wasn't s'posed to shoot any bows over 50#. I didn't for several years, but shot a dozen arrows out of a 62# Dye recurve yesterday, and everything feels fine. Hope it stays that way, since Sixby is building me a 70#'er!
I've decided to get stronger as I get older. After all, I'm only a 1956 model! Hang in there, you'll be fine!!
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Winterhawk,
It sounds like you've considered all the alternatives and this is the one for you. I'm glad to read of so many people here who have gone through similar with good results!
Two years ago, almost exactlly I was trying to convert from compounds to recurve. I hurt my shoulder, I'm pretty sure carrying lumber for a DIY home project not shooting recurves. The doc said a tendon in the drawing shoulder was 50% severed--just the point where surgery or rehab are equal choices. I went with the rehab (self at home). After 7 months of not shooting and doing band exercises to strengthen muscles that support the rotator cuff the pain simply disappeared around August 1, 2009. I hunted that year with my compound. I started over with the recurves in December 2009.
It sounds like your issues are more serious because my shoulder merely hurt without interrupting my sleep much.
The best to you.
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Don, wishing you a fast and strong recovery!!
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Don I will be praying for a quick and complete recovery!
God bless,Mudd
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Welcome to our exclusive club.
Had mine repaired on the last day of ski season, and was ready for the 1st day of bow season this year. Takes a bit of recovery. Pain wasn't bad, but it takes a bunch of PT to get your full motion back. Shooting only 45# this fall, but it got the job done :-).
You'll be glad you had it done. Best of luck!
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It's a long road back with a shoulder, but well worth the trip.
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Hang in there Don. I am doing some recovery myself this winter. Sounds like you are ready to tackle this. Use the time to catch up on other stuff. You will be in better shape come nice weather, and you should be good to go by fall. That's my plan. Prayer and well wishes on the way!
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Don, I pitched baseball until my late 20's and messed my shoulder up pretty good - torn labrum, torn rotator cuff, spurs and a few other goodies.
I've had two surgeries to correct - and my advice is
1) Follow your doctor's advice
2) Listen to your PT (he/she will be your best friend for awhile!!!)
3) BE PATIENT....you'll get there but don't forget to use common sense and
4) Stay positive - it'll be tough but it'll serve you well. It definitely becomes a mental battle.
I'm back and stronger than ever - at least as far as shooting goes. My throwing is limited to tossing the ball with my Goldens!!!!
I will say I don't miss HAVING to sleep in the recliner one bit....
Best of luck to you. You'll be happy you did it when it's over.
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Winterhawk- Have you looked into a good sport massage therapist to add to your (hopefully) fast recovery? I had rotator cuff problems 2 years ago, did the P.T. thing and still had pain. Started seing a massage therapist and am totally pain free. For me it was the best thing I have done for the shoulder....
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Don,
I had my right shoulder (I am right handed) done 5 years ago after incurring numerous sports related injuries to both shoulders over the years. I waited too long, and all the looseness in my shoulder joint caused additional damage, especially the level 3 arthritis that really cannot ever be fixed. I had a crushed A/C joint, torn labrum, torn rotator cuff, torn bicep tendon, and level 3 arthritis. Still, my surgeon was able to do all the surgery arthroscopically. Remember that the skill of the surgeon is the single biggest factor in the future of your shoulder, so pick very carefully. Joint surgery (especially to a shallow joint like the shoulder) never gets rid of all the problems, but it does make things much better and helps prevent additional damage from the injury in the joint that keeps it from functioning as it is designed to work. Get the surgery as quickly as possible and then be aggressive in the physical therapy within the limits prescribed by your doctor and your physical therapist. Don't set time limits on your recovery. You may not be ready to shoot your normal weight bows as soon as you would like, but remember that you are in this for the long haul, not just to be able to shoot at Compton's next year. Some good news for you is that one of the best things I have done to strengthen my shoulders is shooting a bow. The main thing is to shoot regularly (preferably daily) but not to excess in either draw weight or repetition. You will eventually be able to build the weight up to about where it would have been without the injuries, but that takes a long time. I always say that any significant surgery, takes at least two years to get back to as good as you I still hurt on occasions if I sleep wrong on my shoulder, but nothing like the pain I had before the surgery. Best wishes.
Allan
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Don:
Sounds like the right decision and the right time.
Do what the PT folks say and do not push it. They have done hundreds of these and this is your first. My experience with PT folks is that you should let them know what your goals are and then discuss what your time frame might be.
You can do it. I'll be thinking of you....
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Don, get in there, get it fixed, and get yourself mended. Looking forward to meeting you and shooting with you at Compton's. If you need to store any of those beautiful bows at my place so you don't accidentally pick one up.... :thumbsup:
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Don just buck up and get er done! I went in with the same diagnosis 2 years ago, but knew better because pain started after flipping a 4 Wheeler coming out of a steep holler with a deer on it. Kept the 4 wheeler from crushing me, but tore something in my shoulder, MRI came out like yours. Went in expecting 2--4 week recover, on Mar 31, woke up with extensive tear about 6 inches, had to clean it up, put a cable throgh my arm and shoulder to hold everything togehter while it grew back. Surgeon said it was worst one he had worked on, would be off till August 20 or so. Pyhsical therapist is a buddy of mine, seemed to agree. I did exactly what they told me to, when they suggested I exercise it 2-3 times a day, I did 6, drank lots of water, took vitamins, and by mid June was back at work, and shooting #50 recurve! I had to sleep sitting up in the corner of the couch for 8 weeks, with sling/pillow on all the time. It is hard to put up with, but the outcome is worth it. I, like you was in agony for months.
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Prayers for ya, Don! Remember, you still have that bowstring I sent you that needs wearing out!!
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Well..........I had my appointment with the orthopaedic Dr. this afternoon and here's the scoop.
I have a "partial tear" in my supraspinatus tendon. It isn't an elongated or the kind of tear that he thinks will get worse. He told me that typically this kind of a tear will heal on its own about 98% of the time. The tendon is really.........and he said REALLY inflamed. He asked if I had ever had a cortisone shot into the shoulder. I told him that a little over a year ago, I had one and it really seemed to help the problem........BUT.......that I had another one a little over a month ago and it didn't do a thing for the pain. He asked me "where" the Dr. had inserted the needle and I told and showed him (from the top of the shoulder down into the joint).
He said that the insertion point wasn't his choice of locations to get the steroid to the problem area and he would like to give me another one........and then for me to call them back in a week and if I couldn't do everything that I had previously done without pain and wasn't back to sleeping in my bed "pain free" that we would have to explore the surgery route. He also said at my age, and being as healthy as I was that "IF" surgery was necessary that he would recommend the arthroscopic method to fix the problem.
That was good news all the way around for me, and he told me to take it easy on the shoulder for the next 5 days and then the last two, to just do anything that I normally do in my everyday life. We'll see.......and I guess this is one of those times in your life where "time" truly will tell. He also recommended a couple exercises to help keep the joint loose and said that an orthopaedic massage wouldn't hurt anything either.......just to increase circulation and healing around the injury.
I'm very pleased that he even "thinks" that there might be a chance of returning to my normal routine without any surgery. Most Docs in todays day and age need to make that next Lexus payment and are all to eager to get out the knife and cut away. He is the same surgeon that done my knee in 1995 and then again in 2005 and I haven't had any trouble with it at all.
I'll keep ya'll posted on how the next week goes and hopefully (keep your fingers crossed and say a prayer or two) there will be some arrows flying downrange soon.
Thank-YOU all again.........for the well wishes and prayers. They are very much appreciated.
Winterhawk1960
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Good luck!
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Sounds like good news Don.Hopefully the shot and some messauge takes care of it.Best of luck to you!
Bill
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I am so very happy with the outcome of your visit.
Yours is an answer to prayers and for that I give thanks!
Congratulations!!
God bless,Mudd
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That sounds like good news. Good luck.
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Don,
I took a headfirst fall down two long flights of stairs about 4 years ago and my right shoulder was ripped and torn pretty badly. I was in intense pain most of the time and went through a series of cortisone injections, deep into the joints and muscles. My doc grew tired of that and recommended a treatment or procedure for repairing the torn spurs, tendons and muscle that is called PRP.
PRP is a a relative new, non-surgical approach that sports med docs use to repair athletes and it cured me completely. Simply stated, it involves taking approximately 60 cc of your blood, spinning it down in a centrifuge to separate the stem cells and re-injecting your own stem cells back into the affected area with the assistance of a computer generated and managed sonogram.
My treatment required 3 separate procedures, all done on an out patient basis and I was awake, just lying on my good side while I watched the entire show on the computer. There is a bit of discomfort but it's no worse than the cortisone injections. There was some swelling from the injections and the reintroduction of the stem cells, but all of that is short lived and minimal. Take a couple of Advil and you'll hardly know it.
Here's the good part: I didn't have to go through PT and there was really no pain, just discomfort from the injections. Not a big deal really and it's over quickly. I didn't take time away from work and grew stronger and more pain free each day.
Before the procedure I couldn't raise my right arm, much less draw any kind of bow and now I can climb tree stands, shoot 55+ lb bows with no problem, cast my fly rod and paddle my kayaks, too.
The down side: My insurance didn't cover it and total cost was around $5-6,000.00 total. My first two treatments occurred about 3 months apart, I grew pain free and stronger between each and the final treatment was done to take care of a couple of little hot spots that were missed during the first two procedures.
You might want to think about PRP and discuss it with your doc. There is a lot of info on the WWW about it and if you need a reference to a doc, you can PM me and I'll get you hooked up.
Regardless of what you do, get a second or third opinion. Anything you can do to avoid surgery...and it sounds like you might be a great candidate for PRP...is worth it. Good luck.
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Well.......time for an update. I have given everything except the PRP a try on this shoulder. The physical therapy, the massage therapy......and the cortisone shots. It is as good as it's gonna be without surgery, I'm not going to be able to avoid the surgery and it is scheduled for day after tomorrow (Feb. 17th). It will be outpatient surgery and I will be back home the same day.
The Dr. told me that he really wouldn't know exactly what had to be done until he "gets in there", which is understandable. The x-rays and MRI's won't show everything that is going on. Hopefully it won't be anything "to bad" and I'll be back to bending the limbs before you know it. I will follow the Dr's instructions and do all the physical therapy.......so wish me luck and if you happen to think about it, please include me in your prayers.
Winterhawk1960
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good luck and speedy recovery
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Don, Good Luck you will be in my prayers
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Prayers sent for a speedy recovery! Best of luck.
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All the best to you Don!
See ya at Compton and hopefully you will be recovered and ready to shoot some of my bows and I can shoot a few of yours.
You'll be back and better than ever I am confident.Good luck with the rehab.
Shoot straight!
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Don,really good luck,you'll be on my prayers.
I am sure to see you back to your Blacktails
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Well pray a Rosary for you♥
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Good Luck Don and I will pray for you a speedy recovery.
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Good luck Don. You're in my prayers! T-a-k-e your time and listen to the therapist... You'll be back in plenty of time to practice before our season starts in October!
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I tore my rotator cuff in half in a skiing accident years ago. Take the therapy seriously.
What really helped me was swimming. I started swimming toward the end of my therapy. I highly recommend it. You won't aggravate your surgery and it will help your strength and range of motion tremendously. If you can, try to find a pool at a local gym or YMCA that you can join for a few months.
Hang in there bud... you're going to be better than ever!
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Thanks everybody !!!
Dixie Bowman,
Someone else suggested the same thing (swimming) and unfortunately I don't know how to swim a lick. Seriously, I just never did learn to swim, it most likely had something to do with having a mother that didn't know how to swim either and was scared to death of water.
I WILL, most definately take the therapy serious as I want to be back to shooting my bows as soon as possible. I have one bow that is only 30# and another that I have a 40# set of limbs for, so I won't have to start out heavy.
Winterhawk1960
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Don,
Prior to surgery, ask/verify how the surgeon is going to “numb” the area up. I personally don’t care for the “blocks”. See if he’ll give you options.
Second point... and I am being very serious: Ask the doctor or surgery crew folks who’s responsible for manipulating your arm (and yes, the wrist is attached) while you’re under. (Manipulating the arm will be need in order to allow you surgeon access to the damaged soft tissue and subsequent repair.)
The reason I say that is I don’t want you to come out of surgery with a very bad wrist sprain (due to over stressed ligaments). Yup, you don't want to wake up with more concerns than when you started.
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The other note I'd chime in would be to push the surgeon hard to clearly articulate to YOU the fine line between pain and damage post surgery.
There are things you just should NOT do for a period of time or risk ripping out their work.
After that, it hurts like blazes, when you do the range-of-motion stuff, but find out that line between discomfort (pain) and damage!
They made sure I knew and I was months ahead of what they predicted.
Was cut 8/27 and shooting hunting weight bow by Oct 20th. It wasn't pleasant, but it was worth it!
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Well Don I feel your pain too. I too will be having a scope done on my right shoulder on the 24th of this month. I have had problems with my right shoulder for years now and have had the shots to keep the pain away. They always work for me for a short time but the pain returns after a while. The Dr doesn’t think there is a problem with the cuff or the tendons but it appears that the top bone of my shoulder has thickened and is pinching the tendons causing the pain. They are planning on scrapping the bone to thin it and he said it will take away my pain. I should be back on my feet in 6 weeks. I ask him if shooting my bow would cause me to tear it or hurt it more and he said that if I was using the proper form it would be good therapy for my shoulders. He also shoots Trad equipment. I'm sure bull riding and heavy weight traing years ago and a whole host of other things have lead me to this crossroad in my life. I wasn't planning on living this long when I was doing those kind of things. LOL!!! Kind of makes the old saying "live hard and die young" take on a different meaning LOL!! So as I pray for you and your scope I too would ask the same from you. I will check on you and see how you are feeling and use that as a gauge to see where I will be. Also thank all of you for the advice and giudance about what to expect. The Lord has a way of giving us information without having to ask others. Lord please give Don a pain free healing process and guide the hand of the one who is doing the work. Also thank you for all those who have posted their comments and help so that we can learn from their expericnces as well. We love you Lord and ask this in your name with great expectations of you presents and touch, Amen.......Dusty
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Right shoulder mentioned above was the torn rotator...took a lot of healing.
Couple years later, had the "impingement" surgery to do what Dusty mentions.
They had me outa the sling and moving it next day! Told me I couldn't hurt it (damage). I think they forgot how hard I can push through pain.
It's never been as good as the other one. Therapists also thought there was a good chance they didn't get all the arthritic 'gunk' outa the joint areas.
"Arty Ritis" is my constant companion. Related on both sides of the gene tree so I'm sunk! Hate that guy!
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Don,
You will be in my thoughts and prayers tomorrow. Hope the surgery goes well!
Doug
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Prayers from here...
AS said above, do as you are told during your rehab, do not push it hard.
If you do all of it you will be shooting alot sooner than you know..
Later...Buzz
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Well......I survived the surgery and am pretty darn sore right now, but I'm sure that this will pass......eventually.
I'm also "kinda" medicated....still, so I will give a better report on the findings probably sometime tomorrow.
Thank-You, one and all for the prayers, I believe they were answered.
Winterhawk1960
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Good to hear from you. I hope you are keeping good notes so you can send them my way. LOL! I have you and Slayer1 in my prayer book and will be lifting you up dailey.......Dusty
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Don, Glad to hear that the surgery is over, prayers sent. Hoping for the best, keep up the fight. You should be in great shape for your Elk hunt in the Fall. God Bless Don
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Praises it went well and without complications!
Healing is about listening and then doing what you're told...as much as you're told!
Let the healing begin!
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Good stuff. Prayers for a good recovery
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I fell of a roof memorial day weekend.I ended up going to a shoulder otho guy in Houston Texas.He is considered one of the best in the world.After the MRI he called me and said I would not want your shoulder.After surgery he said it was non-repairable,looked like bome went off in there.Said I was going have to use a crossbow.That was in June,last weekend in october I killed a doe with aloner compound set at 50#.Than another doe and a 8 point by end of november.At that point I still could not pull my trad bows which were all 60# and up.The end of january this year I called Black Widow and said what do you have ready right now that pulls Mid 40s.John said I am looking at a 62" PSAX camo 46# @ 28,that the guys in the back just finished for the demo fleet.I said send it to me.After shooting this bow for 3 weeks every day.I am pulling it to my draw of 29 1/2" getting right at 50#,and I can shoot 100 arrows before it starts getting to me.I can not lift my arm above my head but I can shoot my bow.Sorry to ramble on but when a one of the best Docs says you will not be able to shoot a hunting bow any longer its a little scary.So hange in there it can be done.LOL
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Good talking to you yesterday Winterhawk. I enjoyed our discussion alot. I thank you for the info you shared with me. God bless you and yours and I will continue praying for you as well. PS...I am able to type with both hands today. It continues to improve.......Dusty
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Hope it all works out for you Winterhawk,I had a left wrist reconstruction last June,due to a fall at work,I am finally shooting above 50lbs,give it time ,it will all be good!!