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Title: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: yukon chuck on May 20, 2012, 09:46:00 PM
Prayers for Barry.
Just saw a post on another site saying Barry was in the hospital in Maine, recovering from a heart attack. Anyone have any more info?
Chuck
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Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on May 20, 2012, 09:53:00 PM
Prayers for Barry sent , please keep us updated .
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Post by: awbowman on May 20, 2012, 09:53:00 PM
Prayers sent!
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Post by: Mudd on May 20, 2012, 09:55:00 PM
Praying for a complete recovery.

God's grace, Mudd
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Post by: J.Williams on May 20, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
Prayers sent.
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Post by: turkey522 on May 20, 2012, 10:00:00 PM
Prayers sent,take care of yourself Barry.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Tom Phillips on May 20, 2012, 10:01:00 PM
Uncle Barry is doing well and is expected to be out of hospital about mid week.It was a mild heart attack and the prognosis is very good.He is having a procedure in the AM.I heard he has been harrasing the Nurses quite a bit !!!
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Friend on May 20, 2012, 10:03:00 PM
Looking forward to hearing that Barry has recovered.

A prayer for you - Barry.
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Post by: DesertDude on May 20, 2012, 10:09:00 PM
Prayers sent......
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Post by: TURKEYFOOTGIRL on May 20, 2012, 10:10:00 PM
prayers for a speedy recovery
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Post by: Hud on May 20, 2012, 10:11:00 PM
Barry,

Take care of yourself and make a full recovery.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: JohnnyWayne on May 20, 2012, 10:15:00 PM
All the best to a healthy future and recovery    :)
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Post by: JParanee on May 20, 2012, 10:16:00 PM
Big prayers
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Post by: kestimator on May 20, 2012, 10:21:00 PM
Best Wishes for Mr. Wensel!!!
Prayers will be said in his name for he and his loved ones.

Sincerely,
Kevin
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Owlmagnet on May 20, 2012, 10:21:00 PM
As we said back in the old neighborhood, I'll "keep a good thought" and pray for Mr. Wensel's full and complete recovery. I've never actually met him, but he remains one of my heroes.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: huntmaster80 on May 20, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
Prayers to Barry and his family!! Hope he gets well soon!!!!
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Post by: widow sax on May 20, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
Best wishes Barry we need you in our sport hope for a speedy recovery.     Widow
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Post by: JAG on May 20, 2012, 10:34:00 PM
Prayers sent on an arrow of Love to the Great Spirit!
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Post by: Fletcher on May 20, 2012, 10:39:00 PM
Barry harassing the nurses?  I can't imagine such a thing.  :D    Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
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Post by: ron w on May 20, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
:pray:     :pray:  My thoughts are with and for him!
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Post by: pdk25 on May 20, 2012, 10:43:00 PM
Like many others, wishing him a speedy recovery.
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Post by: jonsimoneau on May 20, 2012, 10:49:00 PM
I'm so glad to hear from Tom that Barry is Ok. Don't forget. Barry is one tough dude. And still has a lot of whitetailing to do.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: babs on May 20, 2012, 10:51:00 PM
Prayers sent to barry and his family
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Post by: PV on May 20, 2012, 10:52:00 PM
Thanks for his status report TP. Good news!! Give em heck UB
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Post by: RedShaft on May 20, 2012, 10:52:00 PM
I will be praying for him tonight.
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Post by: sheephunter on May 20, 2012, 10:58:00 PM
Prayers sent to Barry and the Wensel family!
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Post by: Gen273 on May 20, 2012, 10:59:00 PM
praying for you uncle Barry!
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Post by: snakebit40 on May 20, 2012, 11:06:00 PM
Praying for you Barry!
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Post by: Ric O'Shay on May 20, 2012, 11:30:00 PM
Best wishes, prayers and a speedy recovery.

Danny
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Post by: Herdbull on May 20, 2012, 11:30:00 PM
Take it easy Barry, I'm sure Tom will drag your bear out for you in a few weeks at Bear Quest.  Prayers sent. Mike
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Post by: knobby on May 20, 2012, 11:34:00 PM
Prayers sent out for Barry and family.  Get well real soon.
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Post by: rastaman on May 20, 2012, 11:38:00 PM
Prayers sent for a complete recovery..
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Post by: Sean B on May 20, 2012, 11:52:00 PM
Get well, and a speedy recovery!
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Weasel on May 20, 2012, 11:56:00 PM
Praying for you, Barry.  Get well soon!  I hope the procedure they are going to do is successful and leads to a very long life.

Jerry
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Gene Wensel on May 21, 2012, 12:00:00 AM
He is doing much better. More procedures tomorrow. He is in York, Maine. I sent some friends the phone number there yesterday and their switch board lit up. The lady answering the phone said, "What's going on? Who is this guy?" HA!
  Not many people know this, but he was involved in a head-on collision at age 20 when a drunk driver came across into his lane at high speed. Broke his steering wheel off and the streering column busted his sternum among other things. They suspect scar tissue from that incident was part of the problem, not to mention being over weight, etc.
   I'm the one who is really screwed though. This means I will now have to hang all his stands, drag all his critters and probably have to go get the truck anytime he has to walk up hill from here on in :>(
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Shinken on May 21, 2012, 12:15:00 AM
Prayers sent for a successful procedure and a quick recovery!  Amen.

God bless, David Camp
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Post by: kawika b on May 21, 2012, 12:47:00 AM
Glad Barry is on the mend... godspeed his full recovery... and prayers for those nurses too.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: kshunter55 on May 21, 2012, 01:04:00 AM
hope u feel better, keep those nurses busy!
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Post by: cacciatore on May 21, 2012, 03:14:00 AM
Prayers for Barry,I am glad he is recovering now.
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Post by: frassettor on May 21, 2012, 04:41:00 AM
:pray:  Prayer sent!
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Post by: Stone Knife on May 21, 2012, 05:40:00 AM
Praying to the Lord for 100% recovery for Mr. Wensel.
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Post by: toddster on May 21, 2012, 05:58:00 AM
best wishes and prayer for Barry
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Post by: PaPaFrank on May 21, 2012, 06:04:00 AM
...In my thoughts and Prayers...
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Post by: ishoot4thrills on May 21, 2012, 06:06:00 AM
God bless the Wensels and may God help Barry with his condition and in his quick recovery.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Al Dente on May 21, 2012, 06:09:00 AM
Thoughts and prayers for Barry.  And now Gene, you're with me.  I'm the only one who hasn't had a heart condition and I do all the carrying, dragging, hauling etc...   "I can't do that, I'm a heart patient!"  Don't get fooled by the trickery of old men :^).  God's speed for a quick a full recovery.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: bowhuntingrn on May 21, 2012, 06:09:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gene Wensel:
I'm the one who is really screwed though. This means I will now have to hang all his stands, drag all his critters and probably have to go get the truck anytime he has to walk up hill from here on in :>( [/QB]
:laughing:    :laughing:    :laughing:  

Spoken like a true brother...  :rolleyes:  
In all seriousness though, best wishes to Barry, hope he's back in the woods asap!
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: hayslope on May 21, 2012, 06:10:00 AM
God help the nurses in York and Gene.  Get better soon Barry.
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Post by: Lin Rhea on May 21, 2012, 06:12:00 AM
Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
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Post by: Izzy on May 21, 2012, 06:14:00 AM
Get well. Prayers for you.
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Post by: cisco 2 on May 21, 2012, 06:31:00 AM
Get well soon Barry..
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Post by: 1screagle on May 21, 2012, 06:51:00 AM
Prayers sent for you Barry! Enjoyed our conversation in Portland, hope to have many more. Let me know if I can help you or Gene, sounds like Gene will need it, ha!

Kenn
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Post by: Dirtybird on May 21, 2012, 06:56:00 AM
Best wishes to Barry and the family.
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Post by: ber643 on May 21, 2012, 06:57:00 AM
Hang in there Barry, and blessings be with you.
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Post by: doug77 on May 21, 2012, 07:05:00 AM
Get well UB

doug77
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Ray Hammond on May 21, 2012, 07:14:00 AM
UB!!!  Hope u had on clean underwear! ;-)

Love you brother. Get well soon
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Post by: Kip on May 21, 2012, 07:14:00 AM
Take care Barry I will pray for a great and speedy recovery.Go kill something big at Bear Quest.Kip
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on May 21, 2012, 07:16:00 AM
Hope you feel better soon UB.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: KentuckyTJ on May 21, 2012, 07:20:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gene Wensel:
  I'm the one who is really screwed though. This means I will now have to hang all his stands, drag all his critters and probably have to go get the truck anytime he has to walk up hill from here on in :>(
Gene, that's why they make ground blinds. Just pop it up by the road for him. I have a brother and thats what I would do.   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Bill Carlsen on May 21, 2012, 07:35:00 AM
Hard to know what to say. It's just sad to hear the news and Laura and I both wish you the best. I had eye surgery at York. Great little hospital and very talented docs. He is in very good hands, folks. York has docs that do a lot of work in Boston so you know he has access to the best there is.
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Post by: 3Feathers on May 21, 2012, 07:48:00 AM
Get well soon,prayers sent...
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Post by: maineac on May 21, 2012, 07:56:00 AM
Speedy recovery!!
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Gene Wensel on May 21, 2012, 08:10:00 AM
I'm mostly concerned about the condition of his underware when they admitted him. He routinely packs pictures of what looks like bacon strips in the bottom. I've seen them.... from a distance
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Hermon on May 21, 2012, 08:14:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gene Wensel:
I'm mostly concerned about the condition of his underware when they admitted him. He routinely packs pictures of what looks like bacon strips in the bottom. I've seen them.... from a distance
Not before breakfast!  :eek:  Wish him a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Swinestalker on May 21, 2012, 08:24:00 AM
Best wishes and a speedy recovery.
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Post by: on May 21, 2012, 08:32:00 AM
Sending good thoughts your way Barry. You'll have to shoot only the little ones going forward--for Gene's sake.......
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Post by: Pierre Lucas on May 21, 2012, 08:32:00 AM
Uncle Barry,

 I think this is just a great tactic you are using to get the advantage at Bear Quest 6 for  A team ....good one.  But you know you are always in our prayers..get well soon,  you faker..

  :wavey:  

God Bless,   Pierre and Jean-Pierre
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Danny Rowan on May 21, 2012, 08:33:00 AM
Barry,

Listen to the docs, my twin has had 4 of those, the first one almost took him. Get some weight off and get fit, you will be fine, amazing what taking a little weight off can do for you, believe me I know. Best of wishes.

Danny
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Post by: yeager on May 21, 2012, 08:34:00 AM
Get well soon....prayers sent.
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Post by: BMN on May 21, 2012, 08:38:00 AM
Get well soon! Praying for a speedy recovery.
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Post by: bowzonly on May 21, 2012, 08:40:00 AM
Get well soon
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Post by: Shedrock on May 21, 2012, 08:42:00 AM
Get well soon!!
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: yukon chuck on May 21, 2012, 08:50:00 AM
I see that Mike and Gene have posted here, but I thought I would post these comments from Mike Mitten that I received this morning.

Chuck,
He will be glad to hear from every one. In the hospital, the switch board at the nurses station is lighting up with many calls. The nurses ask, "Just who is this guy anyway?"  LOL

I hear he is doing good. They did not find any blockage or anything. He will not need any clot busters or any procedure for stents or angioplasty. The only thing they found was an irregular beat- the atrium are out of sync with the ventricles. His heart may be enlarged at the top. He is expected to make full recovery and he is feeling very well now. The Doc even encourage him to get on with life including going on his annual spring bear hunt. He will have to have a change in diet etc and take some meds, but Gene said he is doing fine.
Thanks,
Mike
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Post by: woodworker on May 21, 2012, 08:55:00 AM
A speedy recovery to you !  As many have mentioned it was a warning call time to listen to the body.  We all want many more years of bad jokes and good writing, all the best to you, Joe
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Post by: 3Under on May 21, 2012, 08:59:00 AM
Will be remembering Barry in prayer!
L.D.
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Post by: Tique on May 21, 2012, 09:06:00 AM
Good thoughts your way Barry.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Ray Lyon on May 21, 2012, 09:10:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gene Wensel:
   I'm the one who is really screwed though. This means I will now have to hang all his stands, drag all his critters and probably have to go get the truck anytime he has to walk up hill from here on in :>(
Gene,
Of course our thoughts and prayers are with Barry (and the nurses).

 Also, if I draw an Iowa tag, I'd of course make the sacrifice to hang Barry's stands and personally verify that they were set correctly during the first week of November for him by testing them (I may have to add a few pounds to match up properly-but I can do that too).  You're probably already reaching for the stationary to hand write a thank you to me for taking this load off your plate, but no need, that's what we fellow bow hunters are willing to do for each other.
Best regards,
Ray
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: droptine59 on May 21, 2012, 09:18:00 AM
Barry,,, the new spread through the baltimore shoot like wildfire. You are in all our prayers and thoughts, get well soon.

Oh yeah,,, I know a homeless chef from New Jersey who can cook up those bacon strips for ya.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: adeeden on May 21, 2012, 09:20:00 AM
Gene, getting the truck, hanging the stands, dragging the bucks sounds rough but just think of all his share of good food you can deny him! For his health of course!  On a serious note I'm glad he's recovering well.
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Post by: jcar315 on May 21, 2012, 09:34:00 AM
Prayers sent and thanks for the updates.
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Post by: varmint101 on May 21, 2012, 09:36:00 AM
Prayers sent that Barry will get back to normal soon!

Poor Gene, maybe time to get a mule? :-)
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Post by: PBNJ on May 21, 2012, 09:38:00 AM
Hang in there Barry and take care of yourself we need you around. Wishing you a quick recovery...
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Post by: Nook on May 21, 2012, 10:12:00 AM
Barry, glad to hear you'll be back to abnormal soon.  We need ya buddy...  Now go chase some more bears...  Jeff Harper
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: MCS on May 21, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
GET WELL SOON BARRY.
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Post by: Butchie on May 21, 2012, 01:13:00 PM
Prayers for a speedy recovery and expedited trip back to the woods.  God Bless!   :pray:
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Post by: Anointed Archer on May 21, 2012, 01:20:00 PM
Praying for Barry's for and complete recovery!
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Post by: Doc Nock on May 21, 2012, 01:27:00 PM
I go to the baltimore trad shoot for 5 days and come home to see all this!  :(

Best wishes for a full recovery for BOTH brothers of the bow!

One for his health and the other for the burden of carrying and caring!  :)

Be well Barry! Take things in stride, Gene!
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Post by: Gatekeeper on May 21, 2012, 02:44:00 PM
Get well soon, buddy.   :pray:
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Post by: on May 21, 2012, 03:28:00 PM
Prayers up for Barry. Get well soon!

Bisch
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Post by: bawana bowman on May 21, 2012, 04:07:00 PM
Barry, rest up and take care of yourself. I'd like to see you and Gene in Kansas hopefully next year. Don't worry we'll do all the work for both of you, you'll just have to shoot.

Gene, February in Harrisburg, while I was talking with Barry we overheard you mention to someone about having your knees operated on the end of April. Barry looked at me and said, "that's the first I've heard of that, guess I'll be doing all the work this year." You don't suspect this is an elaborate scheme to put the load back on you?

Get well soon Barry!
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Post by: jcprintz on May 21, 2012, 04:11:00 PM
Barry;
Prayers and best wishes for a speedy recovery.
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Post by: DennyK on May 21, 2012, 06:24:00 PM
Barry-Godspeed in your healing, prayers sent from Hudsonville, Mich.
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Post by: Kudu Kid on May 21, 2012, 07:06:00 PM
Barry,
Prayers sent up above.  

I hope you can make the bear hunt in a few weeks. I'll even skin out your bear.  But that was your plan all along.  

Keith
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Littlejake on May 21, 2012, 07:13:00 PM
Barry, Get well soon and take care of yourself big guy!
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Post by: Jim Boettcher on May 21, 2012, 07:45:00 PM
More prayers from Michigan Mr. Wensel. Glad to hear your going to be ok. God speed Sir.
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Post by: Bob Macioch on May 21, 2012, 08:53:00 PM
In my thoughts Uncle Barry....
.
.
.
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Post by: TimDougan on May 21, 2012, 09:06:00 PM
Get well soon UB
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Post by: W. H. Bill Fuller on May 21, 2012, 09:44:00 PM
Positive thoughts for Mr. Wensel from MT.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Gene Wensel on May 21, 2012, 10:13:00 PM
UPDATE on Barry. He regressed last night due to some sort of reaction to one of the meds. Chest pain, new cough and difficulty breatheing. He had a busy day today. They did cardio conversion and esophageal scan. No clots and his heart is back to regular sinus rhythm now. He feels like a new man and probably will get booted on Wednesday. They are trying to get medication stabilized. Targeting blood sugar levels first and then his sleep apnea. The docs said sleep apnea was a major factor. Thank you one and all.
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Post by: CDR on May 21, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
Sounds like Barry is on the right track Gene. Thanks for the update!! Continued prayers!
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Post by: straitera on May 21, 2012, 10:47:00 PM
Prayers from Texas. Get well Barry!
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Post by: BenBow on May 22, 2012, 09:07:00 AM
Prayers sent
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Matty on May 22, 2012, 02:16:00 PM
Hoping for some more good news along the way!
Tried the cell phone but it got bounced back. Must have changed your number.
Anyway.  Feel better big man! Lots of people here pulling for you!  If I can help in any way just holler!
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: monsterchelli on May 22, 2012, 08:34:00 PM
Prayer sent.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Danny Rowan on May 23, 2012, 12:02:00 PM
Get a CPAP Barry, I put it off for years. I now sleep like a baby and do not snore, best thing I ever did IMHO. I used to fall asleep anytime I sat down for even a short time, always felt tired, even driving was a pain because I would be nodding off even on a very short drive. With sleep apnea you stop breathing and wake up, never getting a good sleep, it takes its toll on your body. Forget getting in a treestand. Get tested and get the machine, you will not regret it. Prayers continue.

Danny
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: bear1336 on May 23, 2012, 07:16:00 PM
Continued prayers from Ga on the way for a full and quick recovery....
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Bill Kissner on May 23, 2012, 07:25:00 PM
Hope and pray that Barry has a full recovery. I suppose this means he will not be able to attend the first week of Bear Quest. Get well soon UB.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Gene Wensel on May 23, 2012, 07:54:00 PM
Barry was discharged from the hospital this afternoon. He is feeling much better and will be trying to catch up on lost sleep now for a few days. Thank you one and all.
  gene
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Sean B on May 23, 2012, 07:56:00 PM
Thats Great news!
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Post by: Brock on May 23, 2012, 08:22:00 PM
great news Gene...please pass our wishes for a full and speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Quickblood on May 24, 2012, 06:46:00 AM
Great to hear Barry is doing better!  Thoughts and prayers are with the Wensel family.
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Post by: Ragin Bull on May 24, 2012, 08:58:00 AM
Prayers continue for a full recovery for U.B.
Prayers for Gene and the family as well.
Good to hear that he is feeling better.
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: Bob Macioch on May 24, 2012, 02:45:00 PM
Great news Gene
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Post by: jonsimoneau on May 24, 2012, 08:30:00 PM
All right Barry!
Title: Re: Barry Wensel in hospital
Post by: bayoulongbowman on May 26, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
barry, prayer from down Louisiana way ...get well my fav bowhunter...mark