Post by: Bear Hunter on December 20, 2003, 10:14:00 PM
Nick
Post by: Rick McGowan on December 20, 2003, 11:11:00 PM
Post by: Dsturgisjr on December 21, 2003, 01:04:00 AM
Post by: Bear Hunter on December 21, 2003, 01:04:00 PM
Nick
Post by: Twang on December 21, 2003, 07:49:00 PM
Twang
Post by: Rick McGowan on December 22, 2003, 08:49:00 AM
Post by: Dsturgisjr on December 22, 2003, 08:33:00 PM
I try to stay out of the $able aisle myself.
Post by: Rick McGowan on December 23, 2003, 08:17:00 AM
Passed on the roan bull also. Rick
Post by: 8th Dwarf on December 23, 2003, 03:28:00 PM
Gemsbok is next. Warthog is something NO bowhunter can turn down. A big Impala is a must. Then you consider the other stuff...Zebra, Wildebeest, and the list goes on.
I second Rick. Don't wait too long and do your homework. I have seen a lot of photos of guys with 45" or smaller Kudu. There is no reason, IF YOU HAVE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK, that you can't wait for a bull well over 50". I see a LOT of bulls over 55" on every hunt. The same thing applies to other animals.
I have a rule... I won't book with anyone who doesn't own his own land. If you book with Professional Hunters who lease "concessions", you can bet that other hunters are using them, too. This usually means over hunting. I also look for LARGE blocks of land. The smallest place I have hunted there is 30,000 acres. My PH also owns another 60,000 acres not far away.
Too Short
Post by: Rick McGowan on December 23, 2003, 07:58:00 PM
Post by: Steve M on December 25, 2003, 08:43:00 PM
My first trip was intended to be for 5 or 6 animals but I ended up with a dozen (different species),lol.
Never say "Once in a lifetime trip to Africa". Ten bucks say's you'll go back for more! I'm headed back in May.
Good hunting,
Steve
Post by: tonto on December 26, 2003, 12:02:00 PM
Its funny what animals will get under your skin. I just cant get into elan,gemsbok or waterbuck.
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some of the top wants. But give me a springbok a black wilderbeast a hartebeast and id make the trip for just a huge warthog with the bow. :bigsmyl: Had ostich at the blind everyday until I couldnt hold back on a HUGE male had to do it they was scaring the other animals away :D
Post by: Twang at Work on December 26, 2003, 02:30:00 PM
A sable is ridiculous, maybe $20K, I've heard. Roan are expensive too.
Kudu, gemsbok, wildebeest are $700-900 usually.
Impala, whog, and the smaller ones duiker, steenbok, etc around $200.
Post by: tonto on December 26, 2003, 02:41:00 PM
Dean
Post by: 8th Dwarf on December 26, 2003, 03:12:00 PM
Where I hunt, the price tag on Sable is $5,500. That's a big chunk of change, no question about that, but if you want one, that is not a bad trophy fee.
Too Short
Post by: tonto on December 26, 2003, 03:34:00 PM
i was in zim in sept. Hunted 14 days and spent 4 days in Vic falls. I never felt threatened and all people (black and white) were very polite. I met over a 1/2 dozen people on my way in and out that also had no problems. Have emailed almost a dozen who also had great hunts in Zim. I hear Harare is much worse if you come and go that way. In the bush all was quite the locals were quite happy to see a hunter as it meant meat would follow. But you are correct you could be in danger at anytime, But that goes for most places in Africa. It is a good thing most think Zim is so bad as it makes for some great deals for us FOOLS. The throphy fees on my buffalo and elephant were less than $1000 more than the sable you quoted.(which is a great fee for a sable) I am not sure how bow friendly Zim is as it takes special permits and such. I have no where near the knowledge you have and doubt i ever will as i spent most of my hunting budget for years to come. :( This is not meant as an arguement against you. I just didnt want to come across as a "dude" covering up problems in Zim. So I rolled the dice no snake eyes this time maybe next.
Dean
Post by: crane on December 29, 2003, 06:27:00 PM
Post by: herb haines on December 29, 2003, 10:10:00 PM
Post by: Rick McGowan on December 30, 2003, 10:25:00 AM
Post by: herb haines on December 30, 2003, 11:37:00 AM
people are hungry so they are eating bush meat and also there are some of politions bring in hunters from RSA ect and killing off the game for profit . a lot of the rhino which were being protected are gone to poachers . sad state of affairs and there is no end in sight --- herb-- always wanted to hunt Humanie
Post by: tonto on December 30, 2003, 07:21:00 PM
Dean
Post by: Rick McGowan on December 31, 2003, 07:10:00 AM
Post by: 8th Dwarf on January 03, 2004, 12:09:00 PM
The big problem, as I see it, is that he is ENCOURAGING his people to TAKE farms. Farmers have been murdered...after being forced to watch their wives gang raped by dozens of blacks. This is fact, NOT fiction. You don't hear too much about it, unless you are there.
There is nothing to stop some kid with a club, panga, or AK47 from taking you out. He will never be punished for such a crime. It will only be a matter of time before we read about the first white hunter being killed there.
I, for one, am not willing to take the risk just to save some money on trophy fees. I figure I have at least another 20 good years of bowhunting and will do nothing stupid to shorten that time.
If, and when, Zim is again safe and the game has come back, I'll be delighted to hunt there.
Too Short
Post by: Dsturgisjr on January 03, 2004, 12:30:00 PM
It makes me sick to think I might never return to Humani. I was blessed to hunt there three times and it will always be part of who I am.
Post by: herb haines on January 03, 2004, 01:53:00 PM
starvation is hitting the people very hard right now and inflation is 600% this year alone .-- herb
Post by: Don Thomas on January 11, 2004, 02:10:00 PM