Post by: jonsimoneau on June 17, 2006, 03:14:00 PM
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Post by: S Meyer on June 18, 2006, 10:19:00 AM
Baboons are considered pest by most farmers. Their only natural predator is leopards. On farms where there are no leopards to control the populations they cause real damage to crops. They are also extremely dangerous, especially the large males who do lookout duty. Brandwag is the Afrikaans term, translated as “fire watchman”. They can become very brave in the presence of humans, even arrogant. They sometimes come into homes and steal food, if you corner them in the house you are in serious trouble. I had a friend who had two large pit bulls. The dogs chased a large male into a shed and the baboon killed one of the dogs and seriously maimed the other. They had to kill the baboon when it threatened the farm workers. A large male baboon can have fangs up to two inches long.
An interesting (and slightly cruel to some) way to get rid of a troop of baboons is to catch one of the large males. You paint it red or silver with water base paint; find the troop it belongs to and let it go. The troop sees a large red monster coming gives a danger signal and starts running. The male hears the warning of danger and speeds up to rejoin the group and safety. The troop runs faster… This goes on until the male find water or it rains. Both ways the baboons are now someone else’s problem
Post by: Joseph on June 18, 2006, 03:06:00 PM
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That's funny. Joseph
Post by: S Meyer on June 18, 2006, 04:38:00 PM
Next time anyone is in SA or Namibia try to get hold of a movie called “Oh shucks, here comes UNTAG” it is a Leon Shuster comedy. It is mostly Afrikaans but has subtitles. The main character has a personal vendetta against the baboons that raid his cabbages every morning. He uses what looks like a 55 millimeter field howitzer.
It’s worth watching. It’s like “The Gods Must Be Crazy” if that helps.
Post by: doctorbrady on June 19, 2006, 12:17:00 PM
I took a big male baboon and scared another nearly to death on my hunt in Namibia. I, too, think that they are pretty cool looking critters. Like Don said, a disturbed group of baboons can ruin a water hole for the morning, but that's what is great about Africa...always another place to sit. In my experience they are the most wary and smartest critter you can chase. That makes taking one, especially a big male, a real challenge and worth the effort.
Post by: Jack Shanks on June 19, 2006, 07:41:00 PM
Post by: 8th Dwarf on June 20, 2006, 09:23:00 AM
Too F. Short
Post by: Don Thomas on June 20, 2006, 07:48:00 PM
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Post by: doctorbrady on June 22, 2006, 10:26:00 AM
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If it helps, I am the one holding the bow.
Post by: tradtusker on June 22, 2006, 05:12:00 PM
"An interesting (and slightly cruel to some) way to get rid of a troop of baboons is to catch one of the large males. You paint it red or silver with water base paint; find the troop it belongs to and let it go. The troop sees a large red monster coming gives a danger signal and starts running. The male hears the warning of danger and speeds up to rejoin the group and safety. The troop runs faster… This goes on until the male finds water or it rains. Both ways the baboons are now someone else’s problem"..............."Metallic silver is better but it doesn’t wash off".
im sorry but i just had to laugh(my a*s off) iv hered so winners in my time but this takes the top!
nice to see another s african on here! howzit bro
Post by: 2wfstlhunting on June 28, 2006, 10:10:00 PM
Steve
Post by: Frank AK on June 29, 2006, 08:06:00 PM
If you got into a scrap with a baboon I guarantee it wouldent be so human like anymore.
Post by: S Meyer on July 09, 2006, 05:06:00 PM
I just returned from two weeks in the Cape (did a wine tour, saw the whales. It was fun). I spoke to someone who works on many fruit farms and the farmers there are unanimous in their hate of baboons. They move into an orchard and do great damage to the trees. They only take one bite of everything they pick. These farmers apparently prefer a 223 for baboon control…
Post by: Frank V on July 09, 2006, 06:34:00 PM
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Post by: Diamond Paul on July 22, 2006, 01:07:00 AM
Paul
Post by: Roger Norris on July 25, 2006, 08:45:00 AM
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Post by: paleFace on June 22, 2007, 01:26:00 PM
Doc it looks like we have something to film for sure. you painting a baboon
:smileystooges:
Post by: JM on June 22, 2007, 02:43:00 PM
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Originally posted by Roger Norris:Were you able to find the title of that book I'd love to read it?
I will have to dig out an old book I have, written by an American who spent many years living and hunting in Africa in the very early 1900's. It devotes 2 chapters to baboons, and describes how vicious and cunning they can be. In particular, he relates how he thought he was going to make a living collecting the bounty on baboons, because they were everywhere. He killed a few at long range with a rifle, but in the end, they began to hunt him...it was a chilling story. I will dig it out and post the title and author.
:bigsmyl:
Thanks.
Post by: S Meyer on June 22, 2007, 03:37:00 PM
I have heard several stories about baboons stealing children but I have never been able to confirm any of these stories. I first heard the paint method from a citrus farmer, or his grandson to be more precise. They did great deal damage to his orange trees. At first he shot them but they soon learn that the sound of a vehicle means trouble so he then resorted to traps. They were too clever for that too, unless he used very thick wire snares, which meant as often as not he would find a severed paw as the only sign of failure. A nearby game ranger then described the paint method to him if that is to be believed. The farmer in question then acquired a large metal cage used mostly for trapping leopards. You could then spray the paint through the mesh of the cage. Crueler than a bullet, less impact than poison, cheaper than a professional varminter. Or a cannon. He later bought his grandson a .243 with a large telescope to control the population. Apparently using bullets with thin jackets would not so much kill them as make them explode. From as far as 200 yards away.
I recently learned that the farmer lost his farm to land claims, along with a few of his neighbors so the baboons need not fear paint anymore, although I understand the current owner has ceased all commercial farming and is now living off the land, so baboons are back on the menu. So it goes.
Killing the brandwag will cause the troop to fall into complete confusion. A hunter would do well to start with the largest male in the troop, as this will keep the troop from launching an effective counter attack, meaning they won’t hunt you down and bite you legs off. They will also never abandon a baby baboon, so don’t get between them and a baby unless ammo is not a problem.
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Post by: Zenzele on July 09, 2007, 11:05:00 AM
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question? just how are you supposed to catch one of these baboons to paint him without getting chewed to pieces?
Doc it looks like we have something to film for sure. you painting a baboon
Don you get my vote for being related, but i'm thinking Paul might be a little closer in size....
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WARNING ONLY DO THIS IF YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS IRON CLANNGERS!!!
Well the best way to do this is to get a bag of ripe oranges and then get the cheapest, nastiest & strongest sippin liquer in the bottlestore. Inject liquer in large amounts into the oranges, sit back and wait for the big male to asert his autority and eat as much as he can and pass out. Do the paint job really quickly and get out of there! (Note you dont have to paint the whole beast, back and face will do!)
Sippin liquer can be substituted with horse tranqueliser, maybe a safer option!
3 weeks later we heard from another rancher 30 miles away how a mad pack of baboons chased by a red and yellow baboon had come through his farm at 100mp/h! Problem solved!
Post by: fish theotherone on July 21, 2007, 06:56:00 PM
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Post by: S. Brant Osborn on July 29, 2007, 04:27:00 PM
Not sure if I would shoot one. It could go either way. I would love however to see a video of that painted Baboon!
Post by: danlevoyageur on August 05, 2007, 04:54:00 AM
I shot two baboons last May,the smaller attack my guide in the bush,When you are near a blind and when you see 40 or 50 baboons coming,you are sure that you can't see others animals,the babbons are not afraid and they attack small impala (males baboons are most agressive than female).
I try to put pictures
Dan
Post by: SilentT on August 31, 2007, 12:43:00 AM
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Post by: Wary Buck on August 31, 2007, 05:06:00 PM
Another time I was in an open tree stand and no way you're escaping detection that way. When they saw me they started hollering, "Wahoo" and I knew my hunt was severely compromised. After 15-20 minutes of this, I finally decided what the heck...and I got out of the tree and chased the whole troop on foot for maybe 1/2 mi. and then jogged back to my waterhole and climbed back up. Those ba*tards were still hollering "Wahoo" incessently, but at least they were now about a mile away. After reading some of the previous stories, that may not have been such a wise move.
If I recall the Mush or Cuon at Humani said one way they tried to kill the things was to locate where a whole bunch had "roosted" in a big old tree, then return to that tree before first light, with numerous persons each with shotguns loaded with buckshot. When the baboons sounded the alarm call, all heck broke loose and it was a war zone. They had to be very careful of not only shooting another person accidently but also of wounded baboons retaliating. That would make for quite a scene.
Seems like I recall also that Humani had a mounted fullbody baboon in camp and that someone put the thing in the outdoor, open-air restroom one night and one of my hunting partners bumped into it in the night and about freaked.
As I recall, the largest canines on the African continent. I'd kill one in a second.
Post by: BTH on August 31, 2007, 05:22:00 PM
Post by: 8th Dwarf on September 01, 2007, 08:44:00 AM
Too Short
Post by: BUFF on September 01, 2007, 09:07:00 AM
Post by: Sylvicapra on September 18, 2007, 09:14:00 PM
Cheers!
Post by: JesseS on September 20, 2007, 09:55:00 PM
Post by: chrisg on September 21, 2007, 08:49:00 AM
Interestingly those baboons travelled around their home range between three main roosts. They only spent two or three nights in one spot, thereby avoiding buildups of fleas, dung and flies below their roost. They were intriguing neighbours, if a little like scoundrels. We never tried to 'tame' them and we jointly maintained a polite, respectful distance.
chrisg
Post by: S Meyer on September 26, 2007, 07:18:00 AM