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Title: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: TheFatboy on July 01, 2009, 07:11:00 PM
After watching a buffalo hunting video yesterday, I came to wonder. When one of these guys...

    (http://www.ulfpersson.se/images/mara/webb_UP_10D_B2824.jpg)

... took 6 shots from a .500 caliber rifle, before dropping to it's knees ... how the hell will I ever be able to take it down with a bow?     :(
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: tradtusker on July 01, 2009, 07:22:00 PM
you can take one dawn with a bow no problem
just need the right set-up, one of the benefits that plays in the favor of the bowhunter is the silence of the bow greatly reducing the animals adrenalin.

i know of Buffalo that where killed with a .22
and some that have taken several hits with 416 rig or 458 lot

quite a few getting killed every year with a bow

here's some film i took of a buddy of mine "Mick from Trophy Bowhunts Australia"  shooting a Water buff

 http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v518/trophybowhunts/?action=view¤t=e16dd2dc.flv
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: TheFatboy on July 01, 2009, 07:26:00 PM
Completely forgot the reduced adrenaline due to virtually no sound from the bow. Those .500 magnum blows must've definetely startled it!

It's 1:26 AM here, so I'll look forward to watch the video tomorrow. Thanks for answering before my beddytime   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: zipper bowss on July 01, 2009, 08:54:00 PM
Cool video Andy.I never get tired of seeing buffalo hunting.One of these days!   :goldtooth:  
Bill
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: tradtusker on July 01, 2009, 11:07:00 PM
Bill if you ever get the interest to go hunt Buff shoot me a PM
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: ozy clint on July 01, 2009, 11:38:00 PM
man, i can't wait to get up there!

what was micks setup there andy?  
the shot looked a bit far back but it did the job.
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: TheFatboy on July 02, 2009, 05:52:00 AM
Awesome video!  :clapper:
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: tradtusker on July 02, 2009, 10:24:00 AM
Clint Micks set-up i think was similar to yours about 69lbs at 30" draw 820gr arrows
the long draw really helps

the shot was strong quartering away it was about prefect

they are so much fun to bowhunt
i hope you get a few killed when you get back home
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: tradtusker on July 02, 2009, 10:26:00 AM
here's another good one

 http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v518/trophybowhunts/?action=view¤t=b83d51d6.flv
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: zipper bowss on July 02, 2009, 03:54:00 PM
Will do Andy!That second buffalo video looked mighty close.I can almost hear you heart hammering through the computer.
Bill
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: BUFF on July 02, 2009, 03:56:00 PM
Good stuff. Thanks for sharing. I have a hunt booked for Aug for Cape Buffalo and am considering Australia in 2010
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: TheFatboy on July 02, 2009, 06:25:00 PM
Jesus Christ, that buffalo was close!
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: tradtusker on July 02, 2009, 09:19:00 PM
yip thats how we like em, toe to toe and close    :rolleyes:    :D    pity he did'nt give me a shot
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: ozy clint on July 03, 2009, 12:48:00 AM
yep, close is my drug too.
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: paleFace on July 05, 2009, 11:26:00 AM
awesome stuff Andy!
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: calgarychef on July 06, 2009, 03:31:00 PM
Jeeze I'd love to hunt waterbuffalo.  They are such a massive animal.  What poundage bow have you been using for them?

the chef
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: rastaman on July 06, 2009, 05:03:00 PM
That was awesome stuff Andy...thanks for sharing!  :eek:
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: L. E. Carroll on July 06, 2009, 05:20:00 PM
Andy,
I just about s%&t myself watching that second video  :scared:  

Do you need me to send you some new camo britches  :wavey:
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: Mchunt on July 13, 2009, 03:49:00 PM
OK Shooting a 43#@28" BW Recurve. 43# due to rotator cuff problems some years back. What would be the absolute MINIMUM poundage needed to KILL a Cape Buff?? All things as shot placement arrow and broadhead wieght are already considered perfect. Keep in mind that training /practice with heavy poundage will most likly result in shoulder damage. What is absolute minimum to still be in the game?
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: Onions on July 13, 2009, 10:37:00 PM
Andy,
Great video's I can watch them over and over!!

chris <><
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: amar911 on July 14, 2009, 01:24:00 AM
Cool Andy. I would have liked to get that close to a cape buffalo in Zim, but alas, it didn't happen. I would love to go hunt buff in Australia too. I think you are spot on with the bow and arrow combination recommendation. A long draw is definitely very nice when trying to launch a heavy arrow.

Allan
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: kibok&ko on July 14, 2009, 02:46:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by tradtusker:
you can take one dawn with a bow no problem
just need the right set-up, one of the benefits that plays in the favor of the bowhunter is the silence of the bow greatly reducing the animals adrenalin.

i know of Buffalo that where killed with a .22
and some that have taken several hits with 416 rig or 458 lot

quite a few getting killed every year with a bow

here's some film i took of a buddy of mine "Mick from Trophy Bowhunts Australia"  shooting a Water buff

  http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v518/trophybowhunts/?action=view¤t=e16dd2dc.flv  
hello, do you know which organs you friend Clint hit please ?
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: briandean on September 14, 2009, 04:31:00 AM
Hi McHunt
The guys at SABA (South African Bowhunters Association  www.sabowhunters.co.za) (http://www.sabowhunters.co.za))  will be able to give you a good indication when it comes to African game. I recently did a Bowhunters Proficiency Certificate (soon to be law before hunting in SA) and we were given quite an intricate formula to determine our limitations with our particular setup.  This also takes into account the reaction time - smaller game is quicker and vice versa, as well as your distance from the animal, broadhead cutting diameter, speed etc etc.  The general setup guideline to ensure an ethical hunt on a Cape Buffalo is around 900gr @ 218fps or similar to ensure 95 ft.lbs or 0.87 slug feet per second.  I know it all sounds very detailed - especially when it's usually the compound guys who are caught up in the speed trap - but attempting a hunt with the incorrect setup is not only unethical, but will, sooner or later, add fuel to the anti-hunting fire.  Best bet is to contact Harry Marx (he compiled the Certificate manual) who is the SABA chairman, for clearer guidelines.
I am also limited to a 45# bow because of shoulder injury, but finances appear to be the biggest problem concerning the size game I can hunt.
I hope you get some help from Harry.
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: on September 14, 2009, 10:37:00 PM
Just watch this video, My friend, Marty Thomas (Buff) took this buffalo in Aug in SA with an 83# Black Widow recurve.

 http://www.buffsblackwidow.com/videos/capebuffalocompressed.wmv

Bisch
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: BUFF on September 17, 2009, 12:00:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by briandean:
Hi McHunt
The guys at SABA (South African Bowhunters Association  www.sabowhunters.co.za) (http://www.sabowhunters.co.za))  will be able to give you a good indication when it comes to African game. I recently did a Bowhunters Proficiency Certificate (soon to be law before hunting in SA) and we were given quite an intricate formula to determine our limitations with our particular setup.  This also takes into account the reaction time - smaller game is quicker and vice versa, as well as your distance from the animal, broadhead cutting diameter, speed etc etc.  The general setup guideline to ensure an ethical hunt on a Cape Buffalo is around 900gr @ 218fps or similar to ensure 95 ft.lbs or 0.87 slug feet per second.  I know it all sounds very detailed - especially when it's usually the compound guys who are caught up in the speed trap - but attempting a hunt with the incorrect setup is not only unethical, but will, sooner or later, add fuel to the anti-hunting fire.  Best bet is to contact Harry Marx (he compiled the Certificate manual) who is the SABA chairman, for clearer guidelines.
I am also limited to a 45# bow because of shoulder injury, but finances appear to be the biggest problem concerning the size game I can hunt.
I hope you get some help from Harry.
I hope you wrong about a test. It will discourge alot of folks from giving Africa a try
Title: Re: Cape Buffalo - just how?
Post by: Rattus58 on October 03, 2010, 06:36:00 AM
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Originally posted by tradtusker:
here's another good one

  http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v518/trophybowhunts/?action=view¤t=b83d51d6.flv  
How do you get to see the video?

Aloha...   :saywhat: