Trad Gang

Main Boards => The Dark Continent => Topic started by: coaster500 on May 28, 2012, 10:38:00 PM

Title: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on May 28, 2012, 10:38:00 PM
I’m back from my way to short trip to Africa…  if I have one regret in is that I could not have stayed longer but life and the bills go on.

I started thinking about Africa long before I pick up a traditional bow. My first inquiry about a possible bow hunt with Lammie Potgieter of Dare To Bowhunt in 07 or 08 I think. I have talked with several other PH’s but Lammie seemed to live bow hunting and his operation is for bow hunters. Most of his clients shoot compounds and that is how our relationship started but when I expressed the desire to hunt with a traditional bow Lammie stepped up to the task and did what was necessary to accommodate. Lammie has taken game with his long bow and knows what it takes and understands the challenge of our equipment.

Lammie shooting his Bob Lee recurve..

         (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/th_Africaday2002.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/?action=view¤t=Africaday2002.mp4)
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on May 28, 2012, 10:38:00 PM
Our first day did not start well, or so it seemed as my first opportunity at a very nice Impala ram ended in my bow tip hit the top of the hide with a sound that was probably heard back home and my shot missed clean and high. Redemption came later and I was glad I had missed the first when this guy came in. Lesson learned and some adjustments my shot was true and the ram expired in a very short distance. He is 22 ¼ inches tall. I put my Big Jim Thunderchild between his horns to give an idea of mass. I was pleased to say the least.

  (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africa2012008.jpg)


  (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africa2012010.jpg)
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on May 28, 2012, 10:39:00 PM
Allison, Lammie’s wife is a very gracious hostess and goes out of her way to make sure the guests get a chance to experience the flavors of South Africa. We ate game meats (Impala, Blesbok etc) and sampled South African wines that were excellent. I am a California native and I can honestly say there wines are on par with some of our best. The accommodations were excellent and my cloths were laundered daily!!! My room was a separate bungalow with very nice furnishings a shower and a large Jacuzzi tube. There is a pool right outside the door and a giant fire pit off the main lodge that is stoked every evening.  Lammie and Allison have done a wonderful job making a stay with them a great experience.

  (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africa2012040.jpg)

  (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africaday2003.jpg)

  (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africaday2004.jpg)
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on May 28, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africaday2008.jpg)

  (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africaday2009.jpg)

  (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africaday2005.jpg)
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on May 28, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
The next day we went to a different area. Lammie as I said before went out of his way to pre scout and put me in a position to have the best opportunity for success. He had put up a pop up blind in some thick, thick bush. It was a very small blind and the longest shot from this blind would be 12 yards at the most and most likely closer. I was pretty much in the blind for the whole day and toward evening Lammi’s work and my patience were rewarded. This Nyala bull played cat and mouse for quite a while before he gave me a shot. Because I was so close and sitting on the dirt, I worked to me knees bent over came to full draw and slowly rose so that my arrow cleared the window, released…. the bull tore off into the bush. We probably went after him a bit premature because it was getting dark quick and we didn’t want to loose the bull to a scavenger or opportunistic predator. My hit was a bit back but with Lammie’s tracking skills and the aid of his two dogs we recovered the bull and I took a deep breath of relief….

Nyala are incredible animals and more so when you are this close. During the time I spent in the blind I saw a dozen cows and calves, monkeys and some beautiful birds. That day in the blind was one of the pinch me moments of my life…. sounds a bit sappy but true.

    (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africa_day_2_028.jpg)
    (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africa20day20220016.jpg)
    (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africaday2020.jpg)
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on May 28, 2012, 10:41:00 PM
Day three we move to another location and had an opportunity with a Blesbok. Before the Blesbok came in we had a bunch of Wildebeests and a Giant Warthog. I should probably say at this time that I am shooting a 56” 50@28 Big Jim Thunderchild and the Warthog was a bit on the long shot side with my equipment so he got a pass. I might have made the shot work but with Warthogs they either dye in a recoverable distance or they run until they find a burrow go in it to recover or dye. After a bit more time this Blesbok came in. We were in one of Lammies permanent hides and I took the shot.

  (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africa2012014.jpg)
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on May 29, 2012, 12:19:00 AM
I only had five actual hunting days because of my job obligations. Lammie did an Excellent job making them count.

Day four found us looking for an opportunity at a Warthog. I was looking to the left and saw this red streak blast across and opening. I instantly uttered the words Red Duiker and Lammie looked and confirmed. Once the Duiker was in the brush he went about the task of eating these seed pods that all the browsers seem to relish like candy. Soon it was apparent there was also a female that had gone unnoticed doing the same. I turned to Lammie and we agreed that the game was on and if the Duiker gave me the shot I would try. I have to say that before I came to Africa I had read books, watched videos and emersed myself in as much information as I could. I had also seen a couple of videos were a Duiker was missed by archers using much faster equipment than mine. These little animals are food for everything that eats meat and have supernatural reflexes.

The duiker finally can toward us and bent down for a drink. I prepared for the shot and when the Duiker raised his head and looked in the opposite direction (maybe looking for the female? ) I released the arrow, he still moved a bit but the shot looked good. I think Lammie was shocked as he turned with a look of disbelief and said “You got him” Then a big grin appeared one his face... I think he was as happy as I was !!


Now came the part that is the killer for me the wait. The Duiker had run up the hill and we lost site as he entered the brush…. Lammie called the lodge for pick up and we waited for what seemed an eternity…  I have to tell you this little antelope had me shaking. This was an opportunity that I had been blessed with. The skinner that works for Lammie has never even seen one and shooting one with a longbow well??? Allison pull up to the blind and Lammie said he was just going to check for blood and we might give him a bit more time if it didn’t look right. I was obedient and stayed with Allison at the hide as much as I wanted to check it out for myself, after an extremely long minute Lammie immerged from the bush holding the Duiker with one arm. It had expired right were we had last seen him and in fact was already a bit stiff….  I was so relieved!!

Lammie says he is eight to ten years old. He is an amazing looking creature and to have been given the opportunity to take him was a blessing to say the least.

  (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africa2012027.jpg)

  (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012%20Tradgang%20size/Africa2012032.jpg)
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: vortex on May 29, 2012, 04:13:00 AM
awesome hunt im sure, i cant wait to make it up there one days!! congrats and beautiful pics!!
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: Siewho on May 29, 2012, 07:34:00 AM
Thanks for sharing pics and stories. Africa is simply irresistable.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: Russ Clagett on May 29, 2012, 09:42:00 AM
Ryan,

congrats sir, on a very well done hunt.......could you give us the details on cost, travel etc...and what all types of game you had a chance at?

I have considered Dare to Bowhunt but havent pulled the trigger.......
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on May 29, 2012, 11:28:00 AM
Lammie has some very affordable when comparing it to a Elk say or a Mule Deer hunt. You can get one of his packages and the it's up to you to add animals to it but in my opinion it is very reasonable. Airfare is a different issue. I was forunate to find a fair around $1300 from LAX... Then it's Taxidermy and what you want to ship back. If you contact Lammie or Allison and express your desires they are very helpful....  as I mentioned earlier this has been a long process for me and my African slush fund took some time to build but it is sooooooooooooooo worth it!!!  Good luck and do your best to go just stay longer than I did as it is a very long trip travel wise  :)
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on May 29, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
Russ to answer your question about the game it will depend on what area you chose to hunt...  Lammie hunts three different areas. There is some cross over but some areas are better for some species and some are better for others. If like myself you want a great Nyala there is no better place than his Zulu location... the same could be said of his Kalahari location for Kudu and Eland or Freestate for Gemsbuck and Springbuck...  Talk it over with them and start your plan    :)
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: monsterchelli on May 29, 2012, 02:39:00 PM
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: SilentT on May 29, 2012, 02:42:00 PM
Looks like you had a fun hunt.  Congratulations!
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: hybridbow hunter on May 29, 2012, 03:04:00 PM
Congrats on fine animals  :clapper:
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: Russ Clagett on May 29, 2012, 03:59:00 PM
thanks!
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: Mongo on May 29, 2012, 08:05:00 PM
Looks like a fantastic hunt.  Congrats.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: NW Jamie on May 30, 2012, 11:39:00 PM
Nice pictures and story, thank you.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: Margly on June 04, 2012, 02:24:00 AM
Congratulations with a great trip and hunt!!
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: JV Rooster on June 04, 2012, 08:24:00 PM
Nice pics and story!
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: amazonjim on June 04, 2012, 10:11:00 PM
Great pics and story, How could you get in touch with your host.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: trad_bowhunter1965 on June 04, 2012, 11:15:00 PM
Awesome Kip just Awesome !!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: TxAg on June 05, 2012, 11:39:00 AM
Great recap. Congrats!
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on June 05, 2012, 02:08:00 PM
amazonjim pm sent
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: TURKEYFOOTGIRL on June 07, 2012, 01:18:00 AM
Very cool.   I wish I could go to a rice every year. Awesome place
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on June 10, 2012, 04:56:00 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: amar911 on June 18, 2012, 02:15:00 AM
Thanks for taking us along!

Allan
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: kibok&ko on June 30, 2012, 03:16:00 PM
bravo !
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: Gil Verwey on June 30, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
Great hunt. I have to start saving for a Africa hunt one of these days. It is a dream I will achieve one day.

Until then thanks for taking me with you.

Gil
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: Friend on July 01, 2012, 09:53:00 PM
Wonderful adventure.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: LITTLEBIGMAN on July 04, 2012, 01:56:00 PM
super animals that ram! that nyala!
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: jeanpaul3006 on July 07, 2012, 10:36:00 PM
Simply awesome, congrats on a great hunt and thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: Joeabowhunter on November 11, 2012, 03:10:00 PM
Fantastic!!!!  Thanks for sharing this hunt.  I've never thought I would go to Africa but posts like these make me think I should start saving for it.  :campfire:
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on November 11, 2012, 03:36:00 PM
Joe I'm not made of money and it took quite a while to fill the can  :)
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: tradtusker on November 11, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
Your having one hell of a year Kip! congrats
Some beautiful animals glad you made the most of it out there. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: NormanDale33 on November 12, 2012, 11:30:00 AM
Great hunt, and awesome to see the respect and appreciation you have for creation. Good work and thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on November 12, 2012, 10:53:00 PM
Thank you...

Andy it will take a whole lot more sucess to get anywhere close to the African in Australia.... I am one lucky SOG though, been a great year!!!
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: Al Kidner on November 13, 2012, 02:39:00 AM
Thanks for the pics and the time it took to put it all up. Africa, one day also for me too...


ak.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on November 25, 2012, 10:20:00 AM
My Taxidermist just sent a teaser, one of my animals...  I like it !!

 (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/DSCF9501.jpg)
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: jeanpaul3006 on November 25, 2012, 04:13:00 PM
Nyala, fantastic looking mount!!
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on November 28, 2012, 01:56:00 PM
OK.... I have been PMed by several guys about my hunt and costs so here goes....

For those interested here are the final costs for my South African adventure.... There are always variations in costs but these are mine and some of them were unknown to me prior to my hunt... Before I went I was hard for me to find this information. That’s why I’m posting it here.

My fully outfitted hunt with these game speices.

Nyala, Blesbuck, Red Duiker, Impala
$5050.00 (plus tip??? Your discretion)

------------------------------------

My airfare from Los Angeles International to Tembo RSA

$1358 if I remember and $340 from Tembo to Richards Bay with and overnight stay in a lodge.

------------------------------------

Taxidermy for shoulder mounted Impala, Nayala, full body Duiker, skull and shield for the Blesbuck and all back and full capes tanned

$1720.00

----------------------------------

Freight from South Africa to San Francisco International airport.

$1556.20

----------------------------------

Brokerage fee and misc

$495.00

----------------------------------

Freight inside the US will vary but in my case it will run between... (about 125 pound crate and about 4'x4'x3' tall)

$450/$500   .......CHANGE OF PLAN... I am driving to San Francisco airport and picking up my crate there...  so maybe $100 fuel cost???

-----------------------------------


So when all is said and done the trip will have cost a around $11,000 plus the tip

Hope this information is of some value ...
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: Josh Perdue on November 28, 2012, 02:35:00 PM
thanks for posting, really enjoyed
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: ArrowCrester on December 01, 2012, 12:17:00 PM
Dear Coaster500,

Nice animals…congrats !!!!!!

I myself just got back from South Africa a dream come true as i have saved for over ten years……

Harvested a fine Kudu and Wildebeest….
  (http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af258/archerman101/KuduBull4copy2.jpg)

  (http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af258/archerman101/Wildebeeste8copy.jpg)


Kudu was shot on first day…. (hunted with Hunt the Sun)

If anyone wants info contact me at [email protected]..
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on December 01, 2012, 11:33:00 PM
Great Animals, time for us both to start saving again  :)

Congrats Bob!!!


  :campfire:
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: skilonbw on December 04, 2012, 12:03:00 PM
Did your outfitter include the transfer from the airport in the cost of the trip or was that separate.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: ArrowCrester on December 04, 2012, 07:20:00 PM
Dear skilonbw,

The Outfitter includes transfer to and from airport and all transfer and prep of trophies to local taxidermist in the daily cost per hunter. No extra charge for these services.

If you would like to discuss more details feel free to contact me at [email protected] or call me on 916-835-3659.

   :goldtooth:    :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on December 04, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
I had pick up/dropoff at Tembo for an overnight stay and pick up/dropoff in Richards bay by Lammie my PH..
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: jeanpaul3006 on December 06, 2012, 04:06:00 PM
Coaster 500, was the taxidermy being done in africa?
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: skilonbw on December 06, 2012, 04:36:00 PM
Thanks i was curious since I just came back from a photo safari where I was charged for about everything so the wife and I being frugal as we are saw that it was cheaper to rent a car and drive to the lodge from the airport so we went that route. Allowed us to get out and explore more of the area without using our lodge for sidetrips.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on December 06, 2012, 07:32:00 PM
Jean-Paul I weighed the options and looked at my PH's Taxidermists work and decided to have it done in Africa and shipped finished with the capes and back capes done.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: fujimo on December 07, 2012, 11:32:00 PM
if i was having a mulie mounted- i would only consider it in N. America. and likewise a kudu- only in africa.
for a coupla reasons
1. helps keep the money where it is needed,and where it should be spent- i feel.
2. the taxidermists in their own areas- know their own animals- they do lots of them- they know the subtelties of the poses, expressions, muscle definitions,behaviour etc of their resident game.
not saying there arent good taxidermists out there who couldnt do the other animals.
just my opinion.

beautiful animals Kip.
well done!!

i simply love all the Duiker family- and great table fare to boot!.
Grey Duiker and impala used to form our staple venison diet.
you gotta get down to the coast next time- and get an oribi a Blue Duiker, and maybe a nice Bushbuck.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on December 08, 2012, 10:57:00 AM
Thanks Wayne I am very excited to see the full body mount with the Red Duiker. I was hoping to see one on this trip but to have one come into bow range and wait him out long enough to make the shot count...  well that was pretty cool for me.

These small Antelope have really gotten my attention and after witnessing there speed and supernatural reflexes I'd put them at the top of my list of African or for that matter game animals period!!!


This is a full body mount of another animal (Bongo)that this Taxidermist has done...  I post it for an example....  so I guess you can see how excited I am to see the Duiker!!!

  (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/dscf5150.jpg)
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: tradtusker on December 12, 2012, 07:24:00 PM
Looking forward to seeing the finished pics of your mounts....looks like you found one of the few good SA Taxidermists.

Red Duiker is gonna be great so glad you went with a full mount! Send me some pics please when you get them.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: ArrowCrester on December 13, 2012, 12:28:00 AM
Coaster500,

I saw your price list… who many days did you hunt ???

From reading your story it seemed like 4 or 5 ???

Thanks,

bob
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on December 13, 2012, 11:03:00 AM
Will do Andy...  Can't wait to see them myself!!

Bob, I could only take 5 days to hunt but wish I could have stayed longer. There will be a minimum of ten days on the menu next time... I was in SA a total of eight days, not long enough but even so I'd do it again in a heartbeat!!!
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: coaster500 on January 02, 2013, 08:43:00 PM
Click link for a Slideshow of the MOUNTS....

 http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012/Mounts%20back%20from%20Africa/?albumview=slideshow

The man cave is shrinking fast!!!!

Click the link ....

 http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Africa%202012/Mounts%20back%20from%20Africa/?action=view¤t=Mounts2027.mp4
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: ArrowCrester on January 03, 2013, 12:21:00 AM
Nice grib…

Bob
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: Friend on January 03, 2013, 07:58:00 AM
Many congrats and thanks for sharing this marvelous experience.
 
From dusk to dawn and even in your sleep may these splendid memories be relived over and over again.
Title: Re: Mounts back and in the man cave PAGE 4....Back from Africa....
Post by: ArrowCrester on January 03, 2013, 09:01:00 AM
Thanks Friend,

These memories are with me now and will be forever……I only hope a can do it again soon!!!!!!!!


ArrowCrester (Bob)

   :archer2:    :archer2:    :archer2:    :archer2:    :archer2: