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Title: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Chris R on January 23, 2004, 06:28:00 AM
Thought it would be neat to see what kinds of tips and tricks some of you guys have come up with for different situations.

I've got one, I glue my strike plates on with Shoe-Goo.  It seems to stick even better than Duco.

Let's see what y'all got.

Chris
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Legolas on January 23, 2004, 08:22:00 AM
Here is another: When sharpening a broadhead with a file do it in direct sunlight and you will see the burr. Indoors it is easy to miss.

Paul
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Clay Hills Bill on January 23, 2004, 08:59:00 AM
Great tips guys!  As someone new to trad methods, I really appreciate this stuff.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Charlie Lamb on January 23, 2004, 09:21:00 AM
Ever have trouble with running a smooth bead of glue down the base of your feather when fletching? You know...globs of glue, bubbles that break the flow of the glue, too much glue.

Thin your fletching cement! Transfer your glue from the tube to a small squeeze bottle (Three Rivers has them), add a very small amount of laquer thinner or acetone depending on the glue you use (thinner for duco, acetone for FletchTite). It will flow much better, dry a little more quickly, and you'll avoid the unsightly globs on the sides of the feather when the job is done.

Don't want to thin the glue and just work out of the tube? Always stand your tube in a small container, tip up. This lets the air in the tube come to the top. Then squeeze the tube to get rid of the excess air and roll up the bottom. Eliminates those irritating air bubbles that come out right in the middle of running a line of glue.
  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: dosbow56 on January 23, 2004, 09:25:00 AM
thoughts on fletching tape?
dave
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Legolas on January 23, 2004, 09:32:00 AM
I love fletch tape. So fast,clean lookin, and holds well. Shot some arrows into my target. Did not get them and it rained a day or 2 until -Duhh -I went out and got them. Fletch still on.I even quit  putting that tiny drop of glue on the ends of the fletch.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Legolas on January 23, 2004, 09:35:00 AM
Another trick. I hate carrying tree steps and we always pull out the last 4 or 5 so to protect our stands. So I just file them in a zipp lok bag and hide them near the treestand.

PBM
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Dan Worden on January 23, 2004, 09:50:00 AM
Thoughts or tricks for tape?

When I use tape I run the tape with the feather in a clamp and clip it with small cuticle scissors. Then I run the back side of an exacto knife down the tape to make it stick to the quill good. I use the exacto to remove the red strip and stick 'em on the arrow. Run your finger down the feather to seat it on the shaft. Add a drop of glue to the tip and you're done.

I buy Fletch Tite and thinner by the pint. In a bottle like Charlie suggests you can thin it to the consistancy you like and best of all if it has been sitting for x months and gotten REALLY thick (almost dried out) add some thinner to it and it's all better. Never run out, never waste 1/2 a tube.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Charlie Lamb on January 23, 2004, 09:57:00 AM
Bingo Dan!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Doug Campbell on January 23, 2004, 10:05:00 AM
The little bottles sound slick but I've been putting my Duco in a 12 or 20cc disposable syringe (sp) for a few years now. Bend a small loop in a piece of wire to plug it with. Never any bubbles, very easy to regulate, and keeps forever.

Doug
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Littlefeather on January 23, 2004, 10:14:00 AM
Great tip on the glue guys!  :thumbsup:  

I find myself hunting in a lot of lowlight situations, especially when hunting hogs. The one thing I do is paint the top side of my broadheads white. I dont see them directly when I shoot but I think the subconscience sees it. If I dont paint them white I shoot high every time. It also serves as an indicator in lowlight, The same as an index nock or offcolor cock feather.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: huntsmanlance on January 23, 2004, 12:29:00 PM
Charlie im going to try that on the glues...Thanks!

Heres mine...

When hunting dangerous game always go with a friend who is a lot older or heavier than you are. just in case ya gotta run!   :D  

On the fletching i just run a Q-Tip down each edge of the feather if there is any globs.

I also use waxed thread or sinew to wrap the tips of my feathers no matter what kind of shafts they are on....it really helps keep the fletches on!

I also splice my feathers using white on the top third of each and it helps my eye track them as they fly.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on January 23, 2004, 12:37:00 PM
Hey! I resemble that "hunt with a friend" remark! Here I thought we were friends, and now I find out I'm just a decoy ...  :scared:   Man, the things you find out by reading Trad Gang.  :smileystooges:
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: huntsmanlance on January 23, 2004, 12:41:00 PM
Heres another "tip"...dont introduce your shooting partners to the Trad Gang!   :D
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Tedd@work on January 23, 2004, 12:51:00 PM
Serving:
I always untwist my flemish strings as far as possible prior to serving them. Then wrap the serving so it gets tighter when you return the string to brace height. I tie my nock points on real tight with Dacron, nothing ever moves. Maybe everyone already knows this?
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on January 23, 2004, 12:51:00 PM
Harumph! Harumph!   :p  "Don't introduce your friends to Trad Gang," indeed! Harumph.  "[laffsmyl]"   Especially not if you're going to use them as decoys.   :rolleyes:  Harumph, I say! HARUMPH! (Oh, look, I called in a moose!)  :D
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Gray Buffalo on January 23, 2004, 12:58:00 PM
Another glue tip is keep you glue in the refrigerator when not in use. It will stay fresher that way. If you buy it on sale, several tubes at a time, put it in the freezer and you will extend the life.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Sparta-T on January 23, 2004, 01:19:00 PM
I alluded to this on the recent "Favorite Camo" thread, but will repeat it in depth.  If like me, you have more than one set of camo clothing to match the change in habitat/temperature as the seasons progress, it is wise to get a few Rubbermaid type containers for storage.  They help keep them scent-free after washing, but are also great for keeping them organized by type.

Over the years I have found long underwear, sox, gloves, hats, etc on sale at the end of the hunting season and purchased some of each to pair with specific camo outfits.  Then I labeled each container by type, so I can grab the one I want without having to do a prolonged search when I am in a hurry.  Knowing everything I need is all together really helps....

For example, I have one container marked "Turkey", which contains my camo, headnet, calls, and vest.  Another is "Predator Wool" for my late season bowhunting in December.  Knowing each tub is ready to go geatly speeds things up when the weather suddenly shifts and you are on the run to hunt.     :thumbsup:    TL
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Tracy McQueen on January 23, 2004, 01:20:00 PM
If you are experiencing trouble pulling your arrows from foam or 3D targets, here's an easy way to make a lube bottle for your arrows.

Go down to the local drug store and ask for a pill bottle. The kind with the childproof caps. Or you may have one at home already you can use. It should be about an inch in diameter and 3 inches long. Take an old field point, or arrow if you shoot alu, heat it up and use it to melt a hole in the bottom and lid of the bottle. Once it has cooled, take the lid off and putting the arrow back through the hole, stuff cotton balls around it. Pack it pretty tight and then saturate the cotton with the lube of your choice. I used to use Pam cooking spray. Pull the arrow out and put the lid back on. The just tie a loop of string around the bottle, put a dab of glue on it so it won't slip off and hang it from your belt or quiver. Before you shoot, just slide your arrow through to coat it. Worked great for me.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Marvin M. on January 23, 2004, 01:28:00 PM
Fletch tapae should be stored in temperature and humidity controlled environment if it is going to be around for over a year.    :readit:  Humidity and extreme temps will degrade the "stickiness on the tape".  Had a roll that went bad after being in my closet for three years.  Called Bohning and they replaced it and recommended faster use or the following.

Put in a zip lock and store in the refrigerator.  Add a pack of Silica Gel to controll the humidity.  It will keep a lot longer that way.  Make sure the wife is aware of what it is, or she might throw it out.

No problems since.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Doug Campbell on January 23, 2004, 02:19:00 PM
Since moving to MT from MO I've learned a trick or two about staying out in the cold, (but it's a dry cold)   ;)  By far the best one has been the silk scarf.

I saw all the cowboys wearing them for years and thought they were mostly ornamental but wow!! do they make a difference.

I like the 3'X3' ones, just take hold of opposite corners and wrap around your neck twice then tie in front. I even made up a few antler slides so I wouldn't have to tie mine. Better than an extra layer of long handles!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: John Nail on January 23, 2004, 05:02:00 PM
go to the local hardware store, buy a "wax ring" for under a commode.melt and  mix it 3/4 with 1/4 beeswax, and you have a lifetime supply of first quality string wax for about $2.

Go to  www.netcraft.com (http://www.netcraft.com)  and buy rubber spinnerbait skirt material in the color of your choice. This comes by the foot. Very cheap, and you cut the string silencer to length after you tie it on. Makes them around a dime each.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Doug Campbell on January 23, 2004, 08:07:00 PM
Used one of the beauty shop bottles one time, worked great till I added some acetone to thin my glue. Had a major meltdown   :smileystooges:  Guess I got the wrong kind   :(  

Doug
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on January 23, 2004, 08:17:00 PM
My mother-in-law runs her own beauty salon. Ahhh that explains why that little patch of fur on his chin is so dark
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Littlefeather on January 24, 2004, 07:42:00 AM
I do the same as Sparta with my camo. Rubbermaid is great. Add a box of Arm and Hammer Baking Soda to help remove any odor.

I wash hunting clothes in Baking Soda.

A scent free soap that is much cheaper than the stuff targeting hunters is "Physoderm unscented".(Thanks Charlie).

Burnt cork makes great face camo "and will give you school girl pimples". (Thanks again Charlie).

The best way to correct the edge of a new Wensel Woodsman is a belt sander and 220 grt.
(thanks Lance C.)

Plastic, electrical "zip ties" are the greatest tool you will find when building ground blinds.

Vanilla is about the best cover scent/attractant I've found.

Hogs absolulely love store bought molasses and will travel miles to get some. Pour over the top of a Mortons Salt block and they'll travel even for even further.

"No-Snow is the best water proofer I've found for fletching.

2 by 4 block with a hole drilled through it and a rope run through it makes a tree step that will work on anysize tree and is very safe.
 CK
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 24, 2004, 08:15:00 AM
Use "Yes, Dear." frequently!  :)
Jawge
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Robert Kennedy on January 24, 2004, 09:12:00 AM
Another trick for getting your arrows to pull out of 3D targets easier. Keep a bar of hotel soap in your pocket or quiver. Every 4 or 5 shots, rub the end of the arrow from the point up to where you expect it to sink in.  The soap helps it slide right out, easy as you please.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Rick Boyer on January 24, 2004, 09:53:00 AM
when you store your hunting clothes in a container I put in bay leaves that grow local and just a little vanila extract. You could use any local tree that gives off a smell..I mix the vanila extract with water and put it in a spray bottle.. As for arrows pulling out easy I use rain-x on the shaft.

 gator
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Legolas on January 24, 2004, 10:00:00 AM
I just love my REDI REACH.  http://www.klawhorn.com/redireachstandard.htm  

Less fatigue in the tree stand and it puts my bow exactly where my bow hand will need to be to grab my bow when I stand up. CUTS MOTION WAY DOWN.Combine it with a Saunders kwik loc  http://www.sausa.com/pp13.html  to hold my arrow or Torges match/rubberband trick and you are set.


Torges trick- take a wood match stick put a rubber band on it by laying it over the match then pulling it through itself. Then you can put the wood match over your arrow when it is shelved and wrap the other end of the rubber band around the riser/grip back to the match.

Paul
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Walkingstick on January 24, 2004, 10:35:00 AM
Tom, just the opposite for me. Never a problem with the tape, hunted 12 days of rain one year in Ohio and those fletches never had a problem. Have some i have litterally worn the feather barbs down quite a bit and still on.

Glue bottles are a must because when you squeeze the bottle the glue comes out but when you release it sucks it back in. Tube doesn't do that. It keeps running.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Charlie Lamb on January 24, 2004, 11:07:00 AM
I make my own cover scent taken to the extreme. I dig a bunch of sassafrass (common in this area) and brew up a big pot of extra strong tea. Then store it in gallon milk jugs.
Since I normally shower before heading out, I use it as a rinse while still in the shower.
Smells great and can't hurt.

You could put it in a spray bottle or even use it in the rinse cylce of the wash for your clothing.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: kojac on January 24, 2004, 04:11:00 PM
For a wind indicator I like to pin a saftey pin a good old cotton ball to my clothing or if I'm a little lazy I just put some in my pocket. Than pull a little of when I need to know the wind.

Happy huntin' from Montana.(it's 20 below again and gonna get worse before it get better!)

kojac
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: John Nail on January 24, 2004, 04:22:00 PM
Wind checker
empty squeeze bottle of "Repel" bug dope. ream out the hole a little and fill with carpenter's string line chalk. I like the blue
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Chris R on January 24, 2004, 07:25:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by George Tsoukalas:
Use "Yes, Dear." frequently!   :)  
Jawge
Best one yet  :bigsmyl:  

Chris
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Maine Mike on January 24, 2004, 08:08:00 PM
I like to use duco cement for my fletching. It will adhere to the gasket lacqure finish just fine and it is cheaper than most specialty glues. I also like to use Barge cement for all my rests and strike plates. I am about as frugel as they come. My wife and I were out shoping at a discount liquidation store and I allways keep my eyes open for anything that may be of use in my traditonal archery takle. I found a piece of taned black calfs skin in a bin of scrap leather. It is super smooth like mohawk. I paid $3.00 for it and I ended up with a good supply of rest material.
I also cruise the Good will and other second hand stores. I am on the look out for old beaver and seal skin garmets. Great arrow rest and string silencer materials.
I think that is the beuty of traditional archery, the ability to improvise and still have functioning (lethal)equipment. Unlike compound shooters who have to buy the most super duper gadget and gizmo, I know I used to be one.
On my arrows I like to finnish my fletching with a serving of silk thread at the front of the fletching. I shave a little bit of the feather from the base with a razor and then wrap. This protects the fletching when I have a pass through on a target or a miss. I also keep a can of varathane on hand and paint the serving to give it an extra coat of protection. I wrap the serving like I would a guide on a fishing rod.
I guess I have blown my horn enough for tonight,
Maine Mike.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Flinttim on January 24, 2004, 09:03:00 PM
I find Duco at Big Lots now and then and buy lots of it. 'Bout 89 cents per. Leave the green cap on it that it comes with and push a bulletin board push pin into the end of it. The glue comes out perfectly for fletching arrows. Real fine bead.

I saw a neat trick in Brunner's video. He has what appears as a tuft of rabbit fur hanging by a short string on his top bow tip. Great wind indicator.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Charlie Lamb on January 25, 2004, 10:48:00 AM
For those that use fur or yarn string silencers... a good spray waterproofer makes them even less "absorbent".
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Don Thomas on January 25, 2004, 12:49:00 PM
When your waders or pacs get wet on a wilderness hunt up north, warm two river rocks next to the campfire at night and drop one in each boot before you go to bed. They will be dry by morning. sure beats struggling with frozen waders! Don
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: CAHunter on January 25, 2004, 01:23:00 PM
Learned this one from G. Fred

Great wind checker.

Tie UN-waxed dental floss (Not the Gore Stuff either) on you bow string at each end, leaving about 2-4 inches of excess hanging off. It will shread apart and will pick up even the smallest breeze.  I keep mine on year round. The worse it looks the better it seems to work.
Title: Re: Tips and Tricks
Post by: Doug Campbell on January 25, 2004, 02:31:00 PM
Had the bright to tie a feather on my upper limb tip for a wind indicator, worked great till I was four steps from a nice black bear just waiting for him to offer a good angle. The wind was fairly stiff and that feather was whipping around, the bear looked up and spotted that feather. You could just see him go from the feather, follow up the bow limb to a big ol blob of me hanging onto the bow then the recognition of what I was. Didn't take him long to get gone.   :(  

Now I use milk weed pods, just go out when they are about ready to pop open and put electrical tape around the pod. Collect when they mature and you have a ready made container. Break the end off and pull out one little parachute at a time. You can see them from quite adistance and they'll float forever. Seed even stay in teh pod most of the time.

Doug