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Title: The Tollhouse Recurve
Post by: Dano on December 24, 2004, 02:02:00 PM: Some of ya'll may remember Timo cuttin osage back in Januray. With Tim standing in that hollowed out tree, he did kinda look like a keebler elfe but don't tell him I said that :D My good friend Tim gave me a piece of that gold harvest at MOJam, and I just have to make my best bow yet outa her. So I need some help, which is more important? Getting the limbs to bend even out of the fades or getting the tips to bend first? This would be my second attempt at a recurve, I would kinda like it to live.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/TollHousestave004.jpg)
This is a primo piece of wood.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/TollHousestave003.jpg)
Here she is roughed out, and tips steam bent.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/TollHousestave005.jpg)
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Post by: trashwood on December 24, 2004, 03:30:00 PM: Oooooooo looking as good as a yellar chocolate chip cookie

rusty
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Post by: dosbow56 on December 24, 2004, 03:41:00 PM: dano you humble me...... :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
happy holidays,
dave
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Post by: rocdoc on December 24, 2004, 03:45:00 PM: Dano......that piece of wood is WAAAAY to straight; no way it'll ever make a bow! :thumbsup:
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Post by: Dano on December 24, 2004, 03:47:00 PM: Don't be humbled Dave, Be happy :D Happy Holidays.

Doug, I know that's what I'm worried about :D
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Post by: rocdoc on December 24, 2004, 03:52:00 PM: Dano.....might I suggest you heat gun a sharp deflex at each fade, followed by a couple of snake curves and maybe even drill 2 or 3 'mock' pin-holes in each limb. That should make you feel more at home. :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Meathook on December 24, 2004, 04:01:00 PM: Looks sweet Dr. Dano continue the lesson please.
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Post by: Dano on December 24, 2004, 04:05:00 PM: Now I feel like Dr. Frankenstien, thanks Don!!! Merry Christmas Buddy.

Doug, I know I'll be bored to death with such a clean piece of wood, but I'll try to get by like it is. :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Hog Wild on December 24, 2004, 04:07:00 PM: Dano, When I grow up I want to build a bow like you. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Dano on December 24, 2004, 04:15:00 PM: I don't wanna grow up, I wanna retire and do this till I do grow up. :bigsmyl: Happy Holidays Steven!!
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Post by: bayoulongbowman on December 24, 2004, 04:24:00 PM: Nice...yellar wood...gitter done :bigsmyl: :wavey: :wavey: :thumbsup:
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Post by: bow loving man on December 24, 2004, 04:29:00 PM: Dano, you will do that one justice I am sure! what a beauty that other bow in the primo piece of wood is! What is it made of? Merry Christmas, Barry
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Post by: Dano on December 24, 2004, 04:37:00 PM: Thanks Barry and Merry Christmas to you. The bow on the left is a BBO, I haven't quite finished yet and the one on the right is an osage bow I need to sinew.
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Post by: bow loving man on December 24, 2004, 04:54:00 PM: You guys are good! I am so amazed at the talented and gifted bowyer on this site! If I made a bow it would probably come out looking like an old man's cane... :)
Barry
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Post by: Dano on December 24, 2004, 05:07:00 PM: Yep, made one like that once :bigsmyl: Don't let that stop ya Barry.
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Post by: Timo on December 24, 2004, 05:27:00 PM: Man that thing is some kinda of a beaut Dano!

Nice lines already.

Those things are a bit tricky bud.Those curves probly won't do much bending.So you gotta keep an eye out on that inner limb or you'll set it! ( at least I do)! Try to use as much limb as you can,out to were the bend starts.

If you want it to be working, then you'll have to thin the ends some,and stand the chance of losing some of that curve.

Are you gonna induce some reflex in the working limb? It looks to have a bit of deflex?
Title: Re: The Tollhouse Recurve
Post by: Dano on December 24, 2004, 05:36:00 PM: Thanks Tim, gotta love recurves. Yeah there is some natural deflex in one limb, I had thought about at least evening them out. If you think it would help I'll ad some reflex to them. I think I can afford to loose some of the curve, so I may thin them we'll see. Thanks Buddy, Merry Christmas to ya.
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Post by: Josh_IOWA on December 24, 2004, 06:22:00 PM: There isn't much difference, just make the deflexed one the bottom one. I've got one in the works that looks similar. If you leave the tips thick you can shorten it by bending a bit more if you need to. Getting the fades the same is the part that is buggin me. I don't want to do it and lose the weight. Good luck.
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Post by: Linc on December 24, 2004, 06:55:00 PM: Dang it all Dano.You just go from one to the next duntcha.Looks great so far.You just have talent oozing from your pores. :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Post by: Dano on December 24, 2004, 07:01:00 PM: Dang it I got something oozing from my poors, is that what ya call it? I am so addicted to this stuff :rolleyes: Merry Christmas Linc.
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Post by: Linc on December 24, 2004, 07:17:00 PM: Merry Christmas buddy. :bigsmyl:
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Post by: John Scifres on December 24, 2004, 09:10:00 PM: That is beautiful Dan. Keep on her. I love making recurves but heed Tim's advice. They have so much less wood working that you have to treat them with care. Lovely though. Happy Holidays! I got a CatQuiver lookalike from my BIL. Bless his heart!
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Post by: Dano on December 24, 2004, 09:19:00 PM: Thanks John, Happy Holidays to you and your family.
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Post by: Texoma Felton on December 24, 2004, 10:10:00 PM: Dano simpley marvelous just dont rush it and maby, now that i have retired, I can come help after the snows are gone, about March
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Post by: Marc on December 25, 2004, 06:02:00 AM: Dano
Looking good. I always get the fades out to mid limb working first.
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Post by: Buemaker on December 25, 2004, 06:55:00 AM: Looking good, how long is she, nock to nock? Bue--.
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Post by: cjones on December 25, 2004, 07:09:00 AM: Looking great so far, Dano. :thumbsup: I'm sure you'll make a sweet shooter out of her.
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Post by: clintopher on December 25, 2004, 07:51:00 AM: Looks good. I need to find a piece of wood like that for my first osage bow. The rings look dreamy. Keep the pics coming.

Clint
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Post by: Dano on December 25, 2004, 08:36:00 AM: :D Texoma, lets hope the snows are gone by March.

Thanks Marc, I'll work them first.

Thanks Chad, Merry Christmas to you and Shannon.
Bue, she's 66" ntn.

Merry Christmas all!!
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Post by: DCM on December 25, 2004, 01:15:00 PM: Nice start Dano. If you want a straight finished bow figure on 1 1/2" of reflex to start. The one recurve I made took about 2" of set. Once you get her mostly tillered you can take a ton of wood out of the curves.

Did you see that white wood bow of Marc's that Bob Barnes had at Mojam?

Nice curves dude. No splintering?
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Post by: Josh_IOWA on December 25, 2004, 01:59:00 PM: I wanna see this one step by step! I recently learned how much more challenging it was than a straight bow.
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Post by: sticshooter on December 25, 2004, 02:39:00 PM: Dano all I can say is :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: u da MAN!!!!!!!<><
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Post by: infosponge on December 25, 2004, 02:40:00 PM: What a job Dano!
Looks sweet to me.
Master artisans at work Siiiiiiiiiigh... :)
Happy Holidays to you and yours!
Title: Re: The Tollhouse Recurve
Post by: Dano on December 25, 2004, 03:28:00 PM: Thanks guy's I'll try to keep you all posted on this one, she is bending pretty good from fades out right now. I like to work from fades out as well, on this one I really wasn't sure where to start.

David I wish I had seen that bow now, I didn't know anyone had one of Marc's bows, dangit.

Merry Christmas ya'all.

Vandalia, MO. how Ironic :D
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Post by: Terry Green on December 25, 2004, 03:45:00 PM: Lookin dandy Dano!!!
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Post by: Dano on December 25, 2004, 04:57:00 PM: Thanks Terry, Merry Christmas Bud.
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Post by: Dano on December 25, 2004, 05:39:00 PM: I got a short string on her, with her permission :bigsmyl: There ain't nothin like stringin a recurve for the first time talk about pucker power :eek: She's braced to 6" here

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/TollHousestave007.jpg)

I have her at 40# @21" here

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/TollHousestave008.jpg)

Unstrung, you can see has taken about 3/4" of set, which I can live with.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/TollHousestave009.jpg)
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Post by: Jeff Strubberg on December 25, 2004, 05:45:00 PM: She's gonna be gorgeous, Dano!

The limb on the left leading the way a bit? Or is that camera angle?
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Post by: Dano on December 25, 2004, 05:52:00 PM: Thanks Jeff, a little angle, but yes I need a little work there.
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Post by: Linc on December 25, 2004, 07:17:00 PM: Looking good Dano. Heck,I'm still working on a straight limb BBO that I started last winter.You're leaving me in the dust.LOL,glad it's yella dust!!
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Post by: Dano on December 25, 2004, 07:31:00 PM: This ain't no foot race buddy, sides a had a head start :bigsmyl: Good wood and good friends to help along the way.
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Post by: Marc on December 25, 2004, 07:37:00 PM: Dano
Getting there. You would want a bit more wood working about mid limb though. The limbs should work right out to the base of the recurves to minimize set, you don't want them working to much in the outer limbs though.
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Post by: Dano on December 25, 2004, 07:41:00 PM: Gotcha Marc looking at the pictures I see what you meen, thanks.
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Post by: Sparky on December 25, 2004, 08:20:00 PM: Oooooooo Weeee...dang Dan that's a beauty! You definately got it going you way. I will be checking back on dis one as ya go!

Nice!

Sparky
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Post by: DCM on December 26, 2004, 08:51:00 AM: Really fine start Dano. How much bow are you making?
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Post by: trashwood on December 26, 2004, 08:58:00 AM: oh goodness :)

rusty
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Post by: Hog Wild on December 26, 2004, 09:31:00 AM: That's gonna be a BEAUTY! :thumbsup: :notworthy:
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Post by: Timo on December 26, 2004, 09:37:00 AM: She's looking good Dano! At the rate your goin,I suppose you'll have this one done by the end of the day?

Takes me forever anymore!
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Post by: Jim Spencer on December 26, 2004, 09:56:00 AM: Looking good,Dano...really enjoying this post.
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Post by: Dano on December 26, 2004, 10:06:00 AM: :bigsmyl: Tim, I was thinking about mixin up some Tbird :D No I'm not that far along, I do have the handle shaped, I need to get out and put a few arrows through her yet, Then I gotta figure out what to do with the tips, maybe some overlays. So far a slight string groove in the belly has held the string in place pretty good, we'll see how they work out when a shoot her. She's 40# @24 after course sanding, I would have liked a little more wieght, but she feels pretty good so I'm happy. I'll get some more pictures later today. So who's goin out to the woods this afternoon?
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Post by: rocdoc on December 26, 2004, 10:07:00 AM: Dano.....you're raisin' the bar here man! :notworthy:

I've wanted to try one of these for a while, but I'm still trying to get the straight ones figured out.

This is going to be a 'working' recurve isn't it?

How much of the limb did you dedicate to the curves?
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Post by: Dano on December 26, 2004, 10:11:00 AM: Naw Doug just kinda pushin at the bar a little :D
Yep the curves are working a tad, I used about 10" of limb on em. I think the key to this baby was the perfect piece of wood, heck the tips even lined up right at the start.
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Post by: Timo on December 26, 2004, 10:22:00 AM: Dano,that is "Hickory county osage" ya kow? :bigsmyl:

Tip overlays look nice on them things.Maybe some buff horn?, and are you gonna lay a skin on her?

40#@ 24"? what's your draw buddy?
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Post by: Dano on December 26, 2004, 10:25:00 AM: Timo, I gotta Keebler Elf draw 24" :bigsmyl:
"Hickory County osage" I love it. I was thinkin on antler overlays, and I don't know yet about a skin, we'll see.
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Post by: rocdoc on December 26, 2004, 10:29:00 AM: 24"!!! Heck Dano.....you're almost at full draw 'soon as ya' brace yur bow!
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Post by: Josh_IOWA on December 26, 2004, 10:30:00 AM: DAno, there's somethin about yellow wood in that shape that sucks me in. I've spent a lot of time lookin at Master Marc's pictures and it looks to me like from the fades to the start of the recurves (at full draw) that a walkie talkie stick would be pretty much even gap the whole way out. And yes, I know you're smarter than me, but I want to know if i'm wrong here.
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Post by: Dano on December 26, 2004, 11:50:00 AM: Very funny my friend :bigsmyl: Us short draw boys need a faster bow.
Josh, me smarter I don't think so Yep your right, I use a walkie talkie and yes pretty much even gap till the curves. Check out this full draw and see what you think.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/TollHousestave014.jpg)

The handle.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/TollHousestave010.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/dlgren/Archery/Bows/TollHousestave012.jpg)
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Post by: Jeff Strubberg on December 26, 2004, 12:10:00 PM: Dano, that's a work of art. "Spect we will be seeing that one slobbered on at MOJAM.
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Post by: Dano on December 26, 2004, 12:14:00 PM: Thank you Jeff, sounds like your going to make it to MOJam this year huh? I look foreward to meeting you.
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Post by: rocdoc on December 26, 2004, 02:37:00 PM: Dano.....That is ONE BEATIFUL BOW!

Love the tiller transition into the curves at full draw. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

OK.....showing my ignorance again, What is a Walkie Talkie Stick?
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Post by: Dano on December 26, 2004, 04:09:00 PM: Doug, it's just a scrap piece of wood 6" long, what you do is run it along the belly of the bow length wise and check the gap in the middle of the walkie talkie. It helps you see flat spots as your tillering. The only trouble is keeping the bow drawn long enough to read the limbs. Not sure but I think Dean Torges came up with the idea, or passed it down.
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Post by: Linc on December 26, 2004, 05:49:00 PM: Migh-T-y fine bow there Buddy.When you're good, you're good. :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Post by: Crooked Stic on December 26, 2004, 06:02:00 PM: Dano what a good looking piece. I do lam bows now but sure would like to try the all wood thing soon.
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Post by: LeeNY on December 26, 2004, 06:09:00 PM: Dang I go away for a few days and look what you've done. Beautiful :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Post by: Dano on December 26, 2004, 06:18:00 PM: Thanks guys.
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Post by: AZStickman on December 26, 2004, 07:45:00 PM: Don't know how I missed this thread.... Nice Job Bud.... She's a beaut......Terry
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Post by: DCM on December 26, 2004, 08:10:00 PM: Nice Dano. I don't know if you've tiller a bunch of these things but the one I did left me thinking I didn't know as much as I thought I did. Nice job. Does it shoot good?
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Post by: the Ferret on December 26, 2004, 08:33:00 PM: Yea I missed it somehow too Terry, guess cause I'm plumb tuckered when I set down to check thigs out after picking and shoveling ice all day.

That's a stunner Dano, excellent work! If ya need some skins to dress her up a bit shoot me an email, like to contribute to such a nice piece of elfin magic.

that Timo's alright isn't he?
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Post by: Dano on December 26, 2004, 08:44:00 PM: Thanks guys.

David, I did what the experts said pretty much, and got the all the use out of the limbs I thought I could, and then I let the curves bend a tad.

Mickey, done shovlein snow yet? Dangit bud I just ordered some skins from Mike Yancey, thank you anyhow, some Brazos River skins, they sound nice I have never seen one, but I thought I'd take a chance. Timo is a fine member of mankind ain't he.
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Post by: clintopher on December 26, 2004, 08:48:00 PM: Dano,

You look taller than someone with a 24" draw in your avatar...must be the hat. ;)

You're bow's lookin' real nice. Where did you take off too much wood resulting in the 40lb draw?
Will your next recurve be static or dynamic and why?

Clint
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Post by: Dano on December 26, 2004, 09:05:00 PM: Clint, good questions. First it ain't the hat. :D
You don't need much wieght with a recurve, I read where you get 20% more speed from a curve, so I didn't worry too much about the wieght. I wouldn't mind builing a static, Statics are cool, and I want to try the kerf method of bending the curves, but it won't be soon.
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Post by: Sparky on December 26, 2004, 09:06:00 PM: Looking good buddy! Looks like ya got all da magic outa that yellar stick. From one "yellar booger picker" to da next...awesome bow.

Sparky
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Post by: Dano on December 26, 2004, 09:17:00 PM: Thanks Sparky, From one "yellar booger picker" to da next...Course you been pickin elm boogers lately :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Timo on December 26, 2004, 09:23:00 PM: Dano, what you gonna call her?

Kinda funny,but I was cleaning the shop today, and got down the recurve I made last year.I then remembered that it to was made from the same tree!

I called that one "Kebbler"
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Post by: Texoma Felton on December 26, 2004, 09:27:00 PM: Dano, Sparky might have elm in those buggers but I garretee you he has enough yeller dust around his shop area the neabors have yeller buggers. I bet there is always a 3in. layer around.
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Post by: Dano on December 26, 2004, 09:37:00 PM: Tim, I don't know yet, I'm going to have to think on this one, I sure like the way it shoots.

Texoma, I know your right :bigsmyl: My neabors just turn up their noses :rolleyes:
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Post by: the Ferret on December 26, 2004, 10:36:00 PM: Offer is always there as long as I have em to spare Dano.

Almost out...got 20 more yards to go and I'll be free. Probably get that done tomorrow. Got more sore muscles than I knew I had LOL. What did you guys get over your way..ice or snow?
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Post by: Hog Wild on December 26, 2004, 11:20:00 PM: Dano I think you already have named it. If Timo has Keebler, Tollhouse seems pretty fitting. That or Ernie. :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Madpigslayer on December 27, 2004, 12:03:00 AM: looks awesome Dano! pass me some lemonade already!!!

how does it shoot compared to a selflongbow? I mean feel-wise? is it more forgiving? less shock? on par for accuracy? is it actually faster? what spine arras shoot? (dumb question...'cane, right?!!!) is it your current favorite shooter? can you shoot your other ones better? why? why? WHY!!!!

inquiring minds, need to know. :D

the-one of these days I'm gonna actually build another bow-madpislayer
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Post by: Dano on December 27, 2004, 07:22:00 AM: Thanks Mickey, your almost ready for the next storm then huh :D We got lightly dusted I couldn't believe it. Ben Gay as a cover scent don't work.

You might me right there Hog Wild, Tollhouse sounds good.

Calvin, it is much smoother than a selflongbow, I don't notice any shock, and for the wieght this baby shoots as fast as any 50# bow at my draw. It will be my favorite shooter when shes done.
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Post by: Jimmy on December 27, 2004, 10:23:00 AM: Nice bow Dano! After awhile it will shoot in and all of those curves will kind of melt into one another. Makes a real sweet shooter!

I am still shooting my first boo backed bow in that profile. It was 65#s at 24" Heck I thought all I had was a 24" draw for the longest time, Turns out thats all the further I could pull that one! :bigsmyl:

Jim Nichols
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Post by: Marc on December 27, 2004, 08:10:00 PM: She turned out really well Dano. Very well done.
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Post by: Dano on December 27, 2004, 08:16:00 PM: Thank you Marc, the next will be better. Deffinately a challenge to these babies.
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Post by: Chortdraw on December 27, 2004, 11:36:00 PM: Dano, It is amazing to me how well you curved those limbs. That is going to be a fine looking and probably a good shooting bow. You have put some fine mojo in that bow. And also I think 24" is a good draw length,,, :bigsmyl: ,,, Someday I should try a selfbow,but it scares me. Can't waite to see your next one!.......Chort
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Post by: Dano on December 28, 2004, 03:29:00 PM: Chort, the way you build them glass bows you should have no problem with a selfbow, you got the talent, you just need to get your ol feet wet. :bigsmyl:
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Post by: AZStickman on December 28, 2004, 03:46:00 PM: Dale... When you decide to get your feet wet and try a selfbow I'd be glad to help you out... Just holler.....Terry