Post by: Sparky on January 29, 2005, 04:47:00 PM
I'm gonna take my time on this one...hope you guys ain't gettin tired of the build-alongs.
First pics in a little while.
Sparky
Post by: Luke Vander Vennen on January 29, 2005, 05:03:00 PM
I'll be watching this one with interest
Post by: DCM on January 29, 2005, 05:10:00 PM
I don't know about yew Sparky but if I had to guess I'd rough cut it to 1 3/8" and 5/8" at the nocks. Then I'd look to reduce it by 1/8" in width carefully. On the thickness I'd rough cut it to 1 1/8" down to 5/8". I expect finished dims to be inside of 1 1/4" x 1" at the handle and inside 1/2" round at the nocks, if you don't pike it. If you built it proud of 72" and then piked it for the nocks down to 71" or so I bet you could have a hum dinger.
Any reflex in it?
See if you can get a detailed pic of the rings and sap wood thickness.
Post by: Buemaker on January 29, 2005, 05:12:00 PM
Post by: Timo on January 29, 2005, 05:29:00 PM
I'll be watchin! :saywhat:
Post by: Sparky on January 29, 2005, 05:39:00 PM
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sparkylongbow/my_photos
Sparky
Post by: Sparky on January 29, 2005, 05:47:00 PM
Tim...git'er done man... :bigsmyl:
Sparky
Post by: Dano on January 29, 2005, 06:43:00 PM
Post by: bow loving man on January 29, 2005, 06:49:00 PM
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 29, 2005, 09:00:00 PM
Post by: Dave Bulla on January 29, 2005, 09:05:00 PM
I'll be watching.
Post by: horseapple on January 29, 2005, 09:32:00 PM
Joe Don
Post by: The Hinge on January 29, 2005, 10:25:00 PM
Who in their right mind would want to work with a perfectly straight stave? Does such a thing even exist?
Post by: Sparky on January 29, 2005, 11:02:00 PM
Yep it's gonna have some whoop-te-doos... :help: I will prolly leave it at 1/4" unless their is an advantage to thinning it.
Don, if it did it would be worth more than Gold...LOL
Sparky
Post by: Dano on January 30, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
Post by: Sparky on January 30, 2005, 12:04:00 PM
Ring are not as thin as I would like, but for $64 plus shipping I ain't complaining.
Sparky
Post by: rocdoc on January 30, 2005, 01:10:00 PM
Dano....I've never worked with Yew but, I thought if you left the sapwood on you didn't need to back it??
Post by: Richie Cunningham on January 30, 2005, 01:22:00 PM
Richie
Post by: The Hinge on January 30, 2005, 01:42:00 PM
No, you can cut through sapwood growth rings on yew. The old timers in WA and OR used to plane through them. Rawhide backing is always good.
Hinge.
Post by: horseapple on January 30, 2005, 02:02:00 PM
Post by: Dano on January 30, 2005, 02:22:00 PM
Rocdoc, yew's sapwood is so soft, one ding to the back it she'll blow, rawhide is good insurance. Heck the sapwood won't hold up to a string without tip overlays, or horn nocks.
Post by: Sparky on January 30, 2005, 03:21:00 PM
Sparky (pics in a little while)
Post by: DCM on January 30, 2005, 03:35:00 PM
Post by: NEW GUY on January 30, 2005, 03:51:00 PM
Post by: Madpigslayer on January 30, 2005, 04:23:00 PM
:bigsmyl:
Post by: Sparky on January 30, 2005, 04:24:00 PM
I have some wiggle room with the width here...mebe it will come out. Man this wood has some purty grain!
What say ye ol' sage's of Yew...LOL
Pic added: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sparkylongbow/my_photos
Sparky
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 30, 2005, 04:33:00 PM
Post by: Sparky on January 30, 2005, 04:36:00 PM
Thanks
Sparky
Post by: Dano on January 30, 2005, 05:41:00 PM
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 30, 2005, 06:04:00 PM
Post by: BenBow on January 30, 2005, 06:08:00 PM
Post by: Sparky on January 30, 2005, 06:27:00 PM
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sparkylongbow/my_photos
Sparky
Post by: Dano on January 30, 2005, 06:35:00 PM
Post by: AZStickman on January 30, 2005, 06:39:00 PM
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 30, 2005, 06:39:00 PM
Post by: Texoma Felton on January 30, 2005, 06:44:00 PM
Post by: Dano on January 30, 2005, 06:56:00 PM
Post by: horseapple on January 30, 2005, 07:22:00 PM
Post by: horseapple on January 30, 2005, 07:29:00 PM
Post by: Sparky on January 30, 2005, 07:29:00 PM
Sparky
Post by: Linc on January 30, 2005, 07:40:00 PM
Post by: Texoma Felton on January 30, 2005, 07:55:00 PM
Post by: Dano on January 30, 2005, 08:11:00 PM
Post by: Sparky on January 30, 2005, 08:56:00 PM
Sparky
Post by: huntsmanlance on January 31, 2005, 01:39:00 AM
Im looking forward to watching this as you give her life!!!
Post by: Linc on January 31, 2005, 04:51:00 AM
Post by: Coop on January 31, 2005, 06:09:00 AM
Post by: John Scifres on January 31, 2005, 01:03:00 PM
Post by: reflx-shtr on January 31, 2005, 02:46:00 PM
Looking forward to more of this one. The ELB is my first love of primative bows and I have made one or two but I have never gotten brave enough to buy some good English Yew to try it on.
Post by: Sparky on January 31, 2005, 08:17:00 PM
John, I'm hoping the knot will go away after further width reduction. I still have about 1/8" to give total in that area. Depending on the actual density of the wood...I may even have a bit more. The knot appears to ba a limb that was buried with additional growth. Other than that the wood wants to be a bow.
Did some resping tonite...she's comming around.
Thanks again for the encouragement.
Sparky
Post by: Sparky on February 06, 2005, 06:53:00 PM
Center is 1" away from true center making the upper limb "actually" 1" longer to offset the arrah pass according to legacy information. We have 1 1/8" at the arrah pass for 6" each side from tru center...tapering gradually to 1/2" wide at the tips. It is 73" long right now but will prolly end up at 72" if I need to "pike" it.
Any how if ya wanna look here it is.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sparkylongbow/my_photos
Sparky
Post by: Dano on February 06, 2005, 07:00:00 PM
Post by: Linc on February 06, 2005, 07:08:00 PM
Post by: Sparky on February 06, 2005, 07:13:00 PM
Sparky
Post by: Sparky on February 06, 2005, 07:18:00 PM
Sparky
Post by: Timo on February 06, 2005, 10:28:00 PM
Post by: Madpigslayer on February 07, 2005, 01:41:00 AM
Post by: John Scifres on February 07, 2005, 08:55:00 AM
Post by: Dano on February 07, 2005, 01:38:00 PM
Post by: DCM on February 07, 2005, 05:52:00 PM
Post by: Sparky on February 07, 2005, 07:30:00 PM
John I do indeed intend to back her with rawhide. Per Dano's instructions I thinned the sapwood to around 3/16".
Damn knots keep appearing everywhere I take wood off... :scared:
She's bending real good at floor tiller after working on her today, pic in a minute.
Sparky (knothaid delux)
Post by: Sparky on February 07, 2005, 07:54:00 PM
She responded WELL to the heat gun being as thick as she still is. I will prolly go another round later. I hope to end up with a straight bow...I use that term loosely...LOL
Here it is if ya wanna look: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sparkylongbow/my_photos
Sparky (knothaid delux)
Post by: GeneJockey on February 07, 2005, 08:16:00 PM
Post by: DCM on February 07, 2005, 08:23:00 PM
Post by: Dano on February 07, 2005, 08:25:00 PM
Post by: Timo on February 07, 2005, 09:14:00 PM
How ya handlin the dust?
Post by: Sparky on February 07, 2005, 09:29:00 PM
I got a severe upper respiratory infection the last time I messed with this wood, high feverr too! BE CAREFUL ALL...it is baad stuff, least for me it is.
Sparky (knothaid delux)
Post by: NEW GUY on February 07, 2005, 09:54:00 PM
Post by: Sparky on February 13, 2005, 08:07:00 PM
I got my horn...got her cut down.
Had some knots on da belly that was botherin me...so I plugged them. Took some cut-off's from my wood and made me some dowels and set them with good ol' loctite 420.
I think we'll be in bidness soon as she drys up and is ready for the long string.
Hope the SG holds.I was gonna use Urac, but didn't want to mix up such a lil' batch.
Not much progress...here's tha pics if ya wanna look. The horn looks good...Rod sent me a sketch on what one should look like...I got my work cut out for me. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sparkylongbow/my_photos
Sparky (still a knothaid)
Post by: Timo on February 13, 2005, 08:50:00 PM
Post by: DCM on February 13, 2005, 08:57:00 PM
Getting that dang outer limb and then the horn down to little bitty is tough for me. Mine seem to always wind up 9/16" at the transition and that's a little proud for all but yew, perhaps.
Post by: Sparky on February 13, 2005, 10:16:00 PM
I think she will hold, least I hope. Going to the long string this week if I have time. Anybody know anything about MC with Yew. i would be intrested in knowing what to expect. So far she hass been in da house with me. it has been cold and my sinus's tell me it is dry in da house. I have no indication of the wood's age sept' he said it was this years offerings.
Later,
Sparky
Post by: John Scifres on February 14, 2005, 08:51:00 AM
Looking good but get that dang thing bending. I'm getting anxious!
John
Post by: Dano on February 14, 2005, 09:29:00 AM
Post by: Sparky on February 14, 2005, 10:36:00 PM
Sparky (Takin my time on dis one)
Post by: Dano on February 15, 2005, 09:06:00 AM
Post by: Sparky on March 27, 2005, 10:54:00 PM
I cut her down from 73" down to 68" befor adding the nocks. Had a hard time getting a good fit with the nocks but I think they'll do for the first one...
No new picks except for the nocks...more to come.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sparkylongbow/my_photos
Sparky
Post by: Linc on March 28, 2005, 04:31:00 AM
Post by: Dano on March 28, 2005, 08:46:00 AM
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Post by: Sparky on April 03, 2005, 10:45:00 PM
Got the nocks finished and the strikeplate inlayed. I used Elephant Ivory for the inlay. Still gotta wrap her up and all...thanks for staying along. She has 13 knots and a LOT of whoop's. Ned to get me a proper piece of wood...LOL
http://photos.yahoo.com/sparkylongbow
Sparky
Post by: Linc on April 04, 2005, 04:31:00 AM
Post by: DCM on April 04, 2005, 08:13:00 AM
Post by: Sparky on April 04, 2005, 09:53:00 PM
No hero shot till I get her gussied up and such. I still got some work to do befor that happens. Thanks for foller'in along. I guess I need to take more pics of da progress. I'll do better if I get me a god piece of wood.
More ta come...
Sparky
Post by: Timo on April 04, 2005, 10:01:00 PM
Nice tips.I gotta do that some time!
inlay looks very well done!
Post by: the Ferret on April 04, 2005, 10:22:00 PM
Post by: DCM on April 04, 2005, 10:26:00 PM
What about piano ivories?
Them Sparks is kinda like gypsies. They come to town with a cart load of stuff. Half of it you don't know where it comes from.
Post by: Madpigslayer on April 04, 2005, 11:07:00 PM
Post by: Sparky on April 10, 2005, 09:37:00 PM
She has 13 visible knots, about 15 deg of twist and loads of whoop-te-doos. Think I call her "Knothaid", inspired by my good buddy Dano.
She draws and shoots Ooooohh so sweet. Think I'll take her to the Texas State Longbow shoot commin up and give her a good shaggin'.
It's been fun guys..thanks for staying along for the ride. I know this was a long build along.
Now I gots to get me a "proper" piece of Yew... :bigsmyl: :bigsmyl:
Heres tha pics if ya wanna look, http://photos.yahoo.com/sparkylongbow
Sparky
Post by: Luke Vander Vennen on April 10, 2005, 09:47:00 PM
Post by: Sparky on April 10, 2005, 09:51:00 PM
Sparky
Post by: Timo on April 10, 2005, 10:17:00 PM
Don't be so hard on yourself about the tiller job.All I see is a wee bit of stiffness in that outer third/top limb? Looks like a well done job?
Finish in great,nocks,and what is that handle,rattan?
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: Sparky on April 10, 2005, 10:24:00 PM
No it my traditional lrather lace wrap I do on all my selfbows, just black...
I'll put some close-up's later of the goodies.
Now get that YEW bending bud!...we need to se a proper Yew ELB bending.... :bigsmyl:
Sparky
Post by: Timo on April 10, 2005, 10:45:00 PM
Thought about dry heat,then steam,then takedown,then sinew,yada,yada.I'll get to it someday.
I've been to busy with my hatchet bow here lately to think on it much.Got that dude shootin!Not a winner,but it will compete!
Post by: Sparky on April 10, 2005, 10:52:00 PM
You know we want pics my friend...pics. Also..what kinda hatchet ye got? Need me a new one for sure before I really get down to biz.
Sparky
Post by: Sparky on April 10, 2005, 10:56:00 PM
Iffin it was me I'd use steam my friend. From what I'v read it seems to work better with Yew and will "hold" better...just a thought
Sparky
Post by: Linc on April 11, 2005, 04:34:00 AM
Post by: Timo on April 11, 2005, 07:13:00 AM
Post by: DCM on April 11, 2005, 08:19:00 AM
Post by: Sparky on April 11, 2005, 08:52:00 PM
Thanks...Sparky
Post by: DCM on April 12, 2005, 08:05:00 AM
It ain't the bow your are after. There will be lots of them. It's the satisfaction of having done it right by your standards. Great lesson Sparky. Hope some newbies are watching.
Post by: GeneJockey on April 12, 2005, 11:04:00 AM
Try a file instead of a rasp on those knots, it's easier to clean up the tool marks!
Post by: Albert on April 12, 2005, 09:54:00 PM
Post by: Albert on April 12, 2005, 10:01:00 PM
Post by: Sparky on April 12, 2005, 10:14:00 PM
Sparky