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Topic Archives => Memorable Hunts => Topic started by: wingnut on November 27, 2008, 02:36:00 PM
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Here is a tease. Part of a text message recieved from Rusty this morning for the center of the action. Cleaned up and edited for mixed audiences. LOL
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Rusty: I got big mama 15 yd in front of me she is #$%^ing huge.
Rusty: big mama black and white one
Rusty: had a dandy black Spanish bore with her
Rusty: about 8 or 9 kids of different size
Rusty: big mama is laying under a big blow down and all kid are around may try for a little tan 80#. . . . wish you were here
You can hear the excitement in his typing.
Mike
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Waiting for Rusty to get back from lunch. He said he had some pics to share with us.
Mike
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Cool!
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Sounds good!
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You can always count on Rusty for entertainment!
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Here is another taste:
Rusty: closed deal on 50# at 8 yds its was front quartering. Hit him on shoulder point broke it. . . . dang here they come again...
Wingnut: dang wish I was there too
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Mike,
We needs to get Rusty a helmet cam!
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I am back, pig is in the smoker. ya here me talk about the boggy bottoms.....we are going their today. really tight stuff, hard to get around in, hard to get thru, and extremely hard to blood trail in.
I talk alot about aim and aiming schemes. I gues ya thought thats was because I can't shoot instnictive. Nope I can. both arrows were shot instnictively at 16 yds at a piece of tape. BH cut both pieces. both risers are morrsion ILF riser. bob's risers have a natural feel and pointing and pointing ability eqaul to any
bottom pic is how we call it the boggy bootom
http://sites.google.com/site/stringwalkerbowhunter/boggybottoms
rusty....more
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Yep a helmet cam would be good. LOL
Might get a little seasick though.
He's uploading pics now
Mike
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The boggy bottoms have a good supply of pig, some my size....some not my size.
Now just beause they are there don't mean it is easy to get a shot.
the first pic is what the pigs real opinion about all this is. we got some tracks that are getting freshing in the direction I'm going. got a pic of the pig tunnels and what you are about to hunt in.
http://sites.google.com/site/stringwalkerbowhunter/pigpresent
rusty more......
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Over the last two yrs I have been telling Wingnut about big mama. she put me up a tree on time and I thought she was big then. I saw her today and at first I thought someone had let cow out in the boggy bootms. then I saw the boar and realized my girl is growing up....i mean growing up. she had the boar with her and around 9 or 10 various sized pigs. the boar had a lot of russian in him. he was black, long snot but I really couldn't tell how big. there was some young black russians too. there was also two tan ones. I deside to try to take the bigger tan one home.
rusty
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Here is Rusty live on text while this was happening:
Rusty: closed deal on 50# at 8 yds its was front quartering. Hit him on shoulder point broke. . . . dang here they come again...
Wingnut: dang wish I was there too
Rusty: it was a different group, young sow little piglets
Wingnut: how many down
Wingnut: you work tomorrow
Rusty: broke big bone in shoulder two ribs on one side, behind leg on off side two more ribs
Wingnut: what bow
Wingnut: what arrow
Rusty: hit aorta and pulmonary artery went 10 yd on other side
Wingnut: Connie says you should have called I could've gone
Rusty: 60 Morrison with Samick limbs
Rusty: never left spot of hit but was down fast
Rusty: didn't run
Wingnut: cool
Rusty: I thought big mama was a cow when I first saw her really @#$% she has grown even bigger
Did you notice I asked if he worked tomorrow? We are going back out in the morning to see if we can find them again. More fun to come.
I get to test the super sharp heads earlier then I thought.
Mike
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the sow is pretty old and pretty smart :) well maybe a little smarter than me anyway.
I still had the wind and no knew I was there. she lead the sounder across the road and in a direction that I thought I knew where they were head. there a 6 or 7 100yrs old pecans in the middle of the awfulest mess of privat and green briar that was in the direction they were going. the pecans are native pecans. little fellows but just tons of the. I had seen the place before. it is rooted up for 10 yds around each of the pecan trees.
I backed off and went down to a wash that would keep wind right an land me real close to where I thuught their day beds were. sure enough ya can see the pic the blow down she was under. I ended up less than 15 yds out and still had the wind. she was hold up under the blow down....with her heart rigth in front of me. it was tempting for 10 seconds......na I ain't gonna try to get her out of here.
http://sites.google.com/site/stringwalkerbowhunter/pighome
rusty more
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i called wingnut to see if he could hunt tomorrow. it occured to me to back off and wait till wingnut could help. I settled down a bit and started to try and back out. oppps that dang tan young pig was coming my way. easied my bow up. he sees movement but it is on the ground on crawling so maybe it is......came to full draw. had a quarting to me shot but I had a 60# hot recuvre that would blow thru 3 his size. i hit the should point, heard the bone break and the arrow hit way back of him. he was spinning around and fall. not a gonna yet but it is gonna happen in seconds.
Big mama busted out the back end of her blow down. didn't see the boar she may have ran him off when she bedded down. nock anothe arrow quick. sung on a little black hooking ti across infront of me but desided to let him grow up (as if if could hit a 50# at full run 15 yds out....well maybe).
rusty
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wingnut and I are going out in the morning. we will let ya know. I did manage to get a quick shot of big mama's back in the brush. I can;t tell much about it not even which way see is standing. was not looking thru view finder, was taking pictures quick draw.
rusty the end till tomorrw- Craine
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Sounds like a blast. Good luck in the morning.
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btw I used the Sarari Tuff quiver again. this stuff was as thick as ya can get thru and still live. nerver heard a peep out of the quiver and the arrows are so handy when crawling thru privet bushes.
have i mention that I hate green briar. green brair and fire ants have got to be a mistake of evolution :)
here is the pic of big mama's back. she is in a wash. I cant figure out which way she is pointing are exactly what part ya see. her back is right behind the cruve in the road maybe 5 to 8 yd back.
http://sites.google.com/site/stringwalkerbowhunter/blackand-white
rusty
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sumpin just as inmportant as a good quiver that will stay out of the bush and keep your arrows real handy is KNEE PADS and a glove with the fingers cut off so ya can shoot your tab. there are lots of stickers and green briar on the ground
rusty
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just in case anyone wonders?????? about crawling thru pig tunnels and being up close and personal with big pigs. yes I carry a 10mm glock with an extra clip. never had to use it but have had it out twice. I have the Texas CCL.
so far every charge has been a faint. had several stand offs with great nashing of teeth and grunting.
rusty
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we went out this morning scouting some area. It rained and rained and we bailed out before the jeep needed a snorkle. Going back tomorrow morning to try out the sharp heads. I hope.
Mike
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What a blast, Rutsy I can understand everything you say :rolleyes: :bigsmyl:
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DAno,
I edited the IM. Heck most of the time I couldn't understand it til I read it 4 times.
LOL
Mike
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Dano,
I am not sure I don't like the old Rusty better. True, most times we could not read much less understand what he was writing, but it was more fun to read his posts.
I figure it is what age does to all of us. We are dealing with a mature Rusty. 10 years ago you could see that he was hitting the keys faster than his brain could think. Lots of typos, but fun to read. I also loved his signature: Rusty -I am all thumbs- Crane or Rusty -full of yellow dust- Crane. There was always that quote that related to what he was talking about. Now and then the old self shows up. First page of this thread he signed something like this: Rusty -make a high hole and a low hole and cut the arota going through- Crane. Vintage Rusty! Typo and all!
On this T-giving week I thank the Lord for Rusty and all the enjoyment we all have had reading his posts and for making some of us "different".
God bless,
Jose - I like Rusty, period - De Moya
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Amen Jose!!
Mike I figured you edited most of that, nobody can type the way Rusty does on purpose.
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Well we went out to hunt this morning. Starting with the stretch of goat trail that I corned yesterday. They had been there and cleaned up half of the corn. Lots of tracks, some way too big. After setting on the road for a while and nothing happening, we slipped down into the flats on the bottom and stole along at a snails pace. Heck if we were going slower, we'd have been backing up. Anyway a pig gives us his version of a deer snort and goes out the back door down to the water and out. Dang it. I wish I'd have taken a pic of where he was hole up. Two deadfalls side by sidewith a bunch of stuff washed up in the last flashflood. Pretty thick.
We worked up from there and heard a soft grunt ahead in the thick. Both of us got pig small and started slipping along. (I keep saying slipping along cause it is very slick down there in the mud and it sounds better then slogging along) Anyway we couldn't find the dang grunter.
On the way back we checked the trial that we'd hunted earlier and sure enough a large boar track went right past where we were set up.
Oh well, we are going to give it a try tomorrow afternoon.
Mike
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I can think of only one thing better than reading one of Rustys adventures. And that would be sharing one with him :thumbsup: Thats one on the wish list :campfire:
Brent
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if ya want a real good time ya should ride along with me and wingnut on a really really muddy road. one of those muddy roads that is like driving on black ice. wingnut is not really a small guy :) but the jeep is a small vehicle. I am driving (well kinda) the jeep is in a hockey slide going right for 3 foot deep rut that will be the end of the ride. then catches a traction spot and squares up to start a skid the other way. all the time wingnut is over there giving me one on one directions and using all 2??# of body english to get the jeep squared up. First he lifts his left leg up and truns his body in the little bitty seat (not a little bitty body) to steer the jeep out of the sink hole only to switch legs and try to steer the jeep away from creek we are about to drop in skidding the other way. I am laughing like a hyena watching him body drive, he is yelling driving instrction like an acutioneer. gimme a left do i have no gas no no gas right gimme a right oooohhhhhhh sssssssshhhhhh.......no gimme..watch out dang that was close
LOL
the hunt is only half the fun...the trip in is a... well, an experience. I did notice that Wingnut kept a real good weather eye out. as soon as the rain started real good he said we are going now. off he went in a dog trot to the mud colored jeep....as if he thought it would get slicker :)
rusty -just point the jeep and gas it- Craine
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bow, arrows hunting stuff, rubber boots, two come alongs, 4 x 60' towing straps, 30' of chain...yep we are ready to go.
i gotta buy a winch or two or maybe a wench or two?????? I guess it all depends on if you are stuck in mud....are not :)
rusty
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Yep and if ya think going frontwards is fun you should ride with Rusty going backwards . .. on purpose. No mirrors. .just put her in reverse and pray.
I did find that I can stear the Jeep like a tobbagan from the passenger seat. Rusty thinks I'm tieing my boots when we stop. Heck I'm kissing mother earth.
LOL
Mike
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LOL. This is great. BTT, we need more. :D
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(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l101/GUNSMITHAMMO/Smileys/RollingSmiley.gif)
Oh my what a ride, with a great visual. I can see Wingnut body surfing now. (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l101/GUNSMITHAMMO/Smileys/RollingSmiley.gif)
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man i'm love'n it! :jumper:
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Wingnut had to take Connie to the airport today so he got to the lease a little late. we had some house keeping chores to do so got out to the boggy bottoms late.
Ooooo sooooouuuuyy. We got them surrounded. First off we saw the hog in this track...... :) :) sorry I didn't put down a tab for size comparison too muddy. ya'll just have to trust me it was plumb grown up. Got wingnut so pumped up he borrowed a bow and Safari Tuff quiver to go after him.
Bottom pic is of Wingnut gett'n pig small just before diving into the bush. ya can see he ius on one of our better roads :)
Wingnutty never caught upto the dang hogs it is almost impossible to. The thing ya gotta do is if ya have an idea where they are going, is back out, hook it down the road and then set up ahead of them. we didn't have any idea which way these guys were going. i think they were in transit.
http://sites.google.com/site/stringwalkerbowhunter/pigsmall
In ten yrs of hunting the boggy bottoms I have never seen so many large pigs. there are some tracks being put down that are real big. Ya know I think Wingnut has got some really big plastic pig feet that he goes down and tracks around to keep me busy :) the last pig Wingnut shot in the boggy bottoms was one we named Rojo Grande. he was a dandy. maybe wingnut has still got a pic of him. then at least ya can see what I mean by big pig
Going to put a trail cam late this evening and try to get ya some pics.
rusty
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Trashwood and Wingnut: The Tradgang version of Laurel and Hardy Go Huntin!
I got tears in my eyes! :biglaugh:
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Here is a pic of Roja Grande
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/mwestvang/24b710e3.jpg)
He is the last one I shot at the lease.
Rusty has taken a bunch of pigs here.
The tracks we saw today are bigger then Rojo.
Looking forward to the encounter, but not the pack job.
Mike
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i got the trail cam set up??? I hope I got in aimed right, in the right mode, and at the right height. Debbie desided she would like to go long. We got to the spot and started in. there was several foot step moving way from the area when we walked in......
-Rusty what is that???? did you hear those foot steps?
yes Dear that was pigs. we scared them off.
-well they come back while we are here?
No Dear they really don't like to be that close.
-sniff sniff....sniff sniff rusty when did you shower last??? you stink!
no Dear that is the pigs stinking. they leave their musky scent behind.
-oh sorry, it does kinda smell like you gym shoes but you never smell that badly.....most of the time.
hmmmmm maybe I'll shower tonight LOL :)
rusty
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Now I see what you mean by "pig small", that photo helps clear it up.
Love the image of Wingnut doing his skate board maneuvers in the jeep.
Rusty has been harvesting 80-100 lbs pigs on a regular basis and reporting in as the BBQ heats up. He lets the big ones get BIG for his pals.
Great tale guys, keep it going and GOOD HUNTING!
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Ah Rusty!!
Were the pigs in your jeep this afternoon? Maybe tonight would be a good one for a shower. You can use soap and everything. Heck if you take it after midnight it'll count for December.
MIke
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HA HA wingnut you and Debbie are such kidders....??? sniff sniff....ya'll are kidding right sniff mmmmmm???? :)
rusty
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the saga continues????
I went out this morning to get the trail cam pics. I just really enjoy trail cams, seperate and above anything from hunting. it is just neat to see what is going on in a world we are just get a peek at now and then. the pigs had not found the feeder yet. got 3 coons and a cottontail. it won't be long till they find it and we got some pics. while they had not found the feeder yet they were busy not 20yds south of it.
http://sites.google.com/site/stringwalkerbowhunter/pigfeeder
rusty
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oh yea I have been meaning to put out some raspberry jello. I understand the Caujans boyz (if ya can understand caujans :) ) put dry raspbeery jello on a old log or stump and just let it soak in over time?????? supposed to attack 'em pigs :)
most of the time I just listen to 'em smiling and nodding. after they leave wingnut tells me what they said :)
rusty -only speaks Texan- Craine
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Yep I think that is "big momma's" track. don't want to shoot her. But there are a couple of boars cruisin around that need to be culled. The track I saw of the lone boar yesterday morning was like a calf elk. That's the one I want.
More too come. And yep I do speak multiple langages ( Texan, Cajun, New Yark, and Washingtonian.)
Mike
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Knock knock
who's there?
http://sites.google.com/site/stringwalkerbowhunter/trailcam
it was not the three little pigs
rusty
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That last one is SCARY!
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Rsuty is on his way out to the lease to freshen the feeders. I was supposed to go but am coming down with something. Not good!!
Maybe we have another adventure in the works.
LOL
MIke
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boy nice evening. this may be a strange statment byt I am not a pig hunter :) . usuaally I find a bunch of tracks and pigs signs. I carry a three legged stool and set hidden till they find me. I do have a question for the serious pig hunters????
the other day when Wingnut and I found the pigs and the wind swirled around I heard a pig blow/sheeze just like a deer does when they smell ya. I was shorter in duration but the exact same sound. I have not hunted a lot of different places for pigs, maybe a couple of states and maybe a dozen or so different places but have never heard the pig wheeze before???? or at that I recall
wingnut and I were wonder if it is just this one pig we think it is coming from or have you heard pigs blow like deer????
rusty
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Rusty...We raised hogs back when I was a kid and they make all kinds of noises.....especially with the proper application of a BB in the right spot :D
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anyway the pigs had found the feeder. it getts dark back in there quickly so I just put another bag in and set on my three legged stool. I watched the sun finish setting nice sun set. didn't hear or see any pigs.
got up to go. was sneaking out, almost to road when I heard the short sneeze/wheeze again. I bought a grunter call to try out. had not used one before. a serious pig hunter friend recommended a Haydel's wild hog call BH-92. he advice was to use it softly when they were close. 1) use call to calm them down if they thought sumpin was up 2). make them curious who the new guy is so they will come and look.
when I heard the sneeze I dropped to one knee and gave 2 oe 3 soft "boy live is good" grunts. i'll be danged....in 30 seconds or so I could see him coming around the conner of the middle road 20 yds up wind of me.....that didn't last long. he was not too disturbed though. he be back.
ya ever use grunters or squealers? I got a squealer too. to me it don't sound near life like as the grunter does. dang blowing that grunter make me hunger :)
rusty
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Rod LOL now that is funny.....i can see ya out there with your Red Rider, spot and stalk :)
rusty
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Rusty, The sound you heard is very common in hogs. It is especially common in hogs that think something is wrong, "thought" they might have smelled something, etc.... It is much more common in older boar hogs. I have always thought the sound is made as a challenge. If one hog says something it is an unvoluntary response that another hog will answer.
I vocalize with hogs every chance I get. I have brought many hogs out of heavy bruch by breaking sticks, grunting singular grunts, followed by the "blow". If the grunts won't bring them out of cover the "blow" damn sure will. Ask John Scifres about "the blow". He was in the wrong place when I brought a BIG Boar out of heavy cover. He saw it as it plowed over him. LOL!
The challenge grunt-blow: This works when you break a herd into. Generally when you shoot a hog in a group the group will scatter like turkey or quail. These pigs will try like hell to get back together. You can bring them back together(to you) with the grunt-blow. I've done this many many times now. This is not done with a feverish blowing on a hog grunt tube but instead by issueing singular grunts. Grunt once and wait for a response. If a hog returns the grunt, then and only then grunt again. He'll answer if he's within ear shot. Sometime they hang up when they can't get a visual on the pig they think is grunting. This is when you grunt and then follow it immediately with a blow and break a few sticks. The blow simply finalizes the deal. They will come at a dead run sometime so be very ready to side step a boar hog in motion. Breaking sticks and brush while you grunt and blow will absolutely bring em in if used in the correct situation(lone big boars). To use this routine in any other format will alert the hogs and send them running for another state. Use this routine when the hogs have not identified your presence. Cold calling hogs simply doesn't work in my experience......Walking through the woods blowing a hog call is like walking in the woods singing aloud. :readit: It's cool to talk with the pigs. They truly do have a language among themselves. It certainly helped me to raise wild hogs as dogs. They've taught me more than I could have ever learned any other way. Good luck with the pigs guys! Glad to see you out hunting. CK
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Oh Man Curtis thinks for the tips. I have just started try to talk to them. I can see how it is going to be a real aid. Espically in the extremely tight stuff we hunt in.
it is not hard to find the pigs....tracks, sounds, and tunnels well lead ya to them. gottin a shot in the privit, green briar hell is a different story. do you every use a grunt to stop them for a shot? they are in constant movement :)
rusty
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Rusty, good to know you are playing with the piggy talk. Pigs speach is as essential to the pig as breathing. They talk to each other constantly to stay in contact with the rest of the herd. I really use this when stalking heavy cover. I've recently been stalking open hay medows with great success. I never fail to get within shot distance using the bump and grunt. What I do is get within close proximity, get down on all fours where only my back sticks up over the top of the grass. I move as slowly as the pigs and I try and make the same noises as all the pigs in the group. I make soft grunts, smacking noises, and I actually break tiny stick and other derbis purposly. The hogs make noise so why doesn't the hunter??? I know the pigs see me every time I crawl in on them but I do it in a slow, deliberate pace while acting just like one of the group. As I grunt they grunt and so on. I sometime get to shoot multiple hogs in this fashion. Actually, I almost always get at least two shot opps. I shot a sow a few weeks ago that simply ran around the group after I shot her and went back to rooting. THEN SHE FELL DEAD! The group never realized that anything was wrong. I simply raised up enough to shoot and layed over forward and went back to grunting and sniffing. Pigs make loud breathing, sniffing, slurping noises in addition to the simple grunt and blow. Get a real big pouch for pig hunting and fill that pouch with all the tools you can carry for hogs. Grunt, sniff, stick breaking, grunting, etc. are all fantastic tools when used at the proper time. It's figuring out when to use these tools that can be difficult. Singular hogs are not likely vocal. When they hear noise they generally respond with a grunt and then circle downwind to confirm what the threat is.
It's certainly more fun to hang out and talk with the pigs than it is to shoot them. My opinion anyway!! Have fun with it all. It's amazing the intelligence level of pigs. I just love them!! CK
PS, The squeeler is only good when you've broken a group of sows with lots of little pigs. I've seen em work but I've never seen a pig shot while responding to a squeeler. The pigs are just moving around too fast to shoot and generally they figure out something is wrong before you can get a shot opp.... The grunt works best. It's kinda like a handshake among men. Simple, direct, and comforting. Good day! CK
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Knee pads, us old geezers need em if we're going to crawl around like hogs (works on javies too).
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I'm loving this. Always like it when CK chimes in with his hog wisdom.
I'm trying to get my schedule worked out to have some time to chase pigs again.
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Curtis - thanks. As I stated earlier I am not a pig hunter really. I am kinda of pig hijacker :) . it is great fun to learn about pigs and hunting them aggesively instead of passively.
thanks for your excellent input.
rusty
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Oh man be careful what ya ask for. I had set up the feeder to get pics of my local freinds :) . Ooooooo Sooooouuuuyyy they turned out in their finest. LOL I got 255 triggers of the trail cam last night. Just looked thru the first few. Bless her old smelly heart the very first pig was bigga mama. I sort thru them and post some.
btw bigga mama is off limits. she and I have had this thing going on for several years. I take her some corn and she furnish the bacon :)
more pics a bit later. got to go to work at 2PM so it may be later tonight.
rusty
rusty
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Shaun you are right for sure. Knee pads and three legged stool are both have to have items :) .
there is very little way to get a standing shot in the stuff Jason, Wingnut and I hunt.
rusty
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Good stuff! I love talkin pig huntin'!
Rusty, The one thing I've learned about hunters over the last few years is that the ones who don't "know it all" generally kill all the game. A good hunter will always bag game. A hunter who is always willing to learn new stuff will conquer all obsticles that he may cross. As long as you are having fun doing what you love then everything is on the right track.
Shaun, I remember the crawl routine you did on the javelina. I've tried that with pigs but haven't had it work on open ground. Remember, javelina don't see very well but hogs have steller eyesight. I just let them see the top of my back when I crawl through the grass. Thats all I can generally see of them when they are feeding unless they lift their head. They just see the outline of my back and think I'm another pig unless I reaise up. Maybe I should glue some big ears on the back of my head to make myself look more pig-like in the grass. The main thing to remember is to use whatever tools that work for you. My post is simply suggestions-nothing in stone. Any time I start thinking I'm smart when it comes to pigs they end up showing me just how dumb I truly am. :readit: Sure makes it fun though when it all comes together.
Marv, we still have a rematch!
Rusty, back to an earlier question. Yes, when pigs are in constant motion, whether running a trail or feeding at a feeder, you can simply grunt one time sternly and they will stop. I'd suggest coming to draw before using your own mouth to issue a grunt. They'll freeze in place for about 2 seconds. SHOOT! Can't wait to hear how your hunts progress. Good luck. CK
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oh man I ain't sorting thru all 'em pigs. they started coming in around 6PM (30 minutes after I put the corn in). as a reference point the black strap around the feeder it 48" off the ground. here is a link to the upload trailcam SD card. hope the link works.. happy hunting
http://picasaweb.google.com/rustycraine/Trailcam#
rusty
ps it does kinda show ya how hard it can be to pick a spot on pigs. sometimes ya see 'em by the handful and they are in constant movement
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one more referenc...trail cam was 7 yds from feeder. has kinda of a wide angle lens so presceptive is a bit funny
there is a couple in there that i'd take home. how many sounders do ya think that was from 6P to 4A. must a been 2 or 3 i guess
rusty
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Looks like word got out fast that the ol' geezer was leaving corn laying around. I can't believe there were pigs there for four straight hours.
Now we just have to get the wind again to hunt it.
This front going through will be a bear.
Mike
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Man i gotta get back to east texas, all this pig huntin talks makin me all warm an fuzzy fellin.
Ill be outside of tyler the 19th of this month on some big groups caint wait
maybee some of this'll help
Larry
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Them spotted ones make "pickin a spot" a tiny bit easier..trick be to find a spot where you want a spot! :)
Danged if that coon ain't a handsome representative too! Kinda big'un like Big Momma for his breed!
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Cool, I could pick a spot on the one spotted little boar. Big Momma is BIG! Looks like plenty of pickin's for bacon in those younguns.
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Oh yeah!! As soon as we shed the flu out here we will be going after some of them 80# piggies.
Looks like pork in the freezer to me.
Mike
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Thanks. You guys are a hoot and bring a smile to my face every time. In case some on here don't have a visual. Wingnut on left, Rusty on right.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/VanTX/Texas%20Archers/WingnutRusty.jpg)
How could you not smile at that. A couple of gen-u-wine Nuts :biglaugh: :biglaugh: ...Van
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Now that's a pair to draw to!!!! :biglaugh:
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Great stuff!
???? for you vet pig hunters. decoys are used for almost everything we hunt, but I have yet to hear of anyone using a pig/hog decoy. :rolleyes:
Anyone tried it and if so what became of the experience?
I'll be in Texas chasing swine in Feb. and thanks to Rusty and this thread I may just try an entirely different approach....
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Van - dangit. Hollywood is gonna start calling me and wingnut again :)
Rob - I don't know anyone that is using a decoy for pig hunting. I got to tell ya in general I think pigs are much smarter than anyother game I have hunted. they learn so fast. might be an idea to try but I think it will only work once :) of course if ya put that in the freezer then it would mean it would work again.
i don't hunt over corn. it is just too furstrating. ya can have 8 or 9 pigs around the feeder at one time. they are in constant motion, pushing and shoving. it is very difficult to get the "shot". In tight stuff ya want to nail the sucker hard and at the right angle. without a dog it can be very hard to find even a big pig if they go far. to get that shot over a feeder ya end up letting several sounders walk before ya ever get the "shot"
it would much more productive to hunt the pig trail on the way to the feeder. stop them with a grunt and have a quartering away shot.
it would be productive to hunt over a feeder with s Sig assult rifle.....but that is not what we are about. :) I always get a smile when someone protest hunting over a feeder for it is too easy and ethical reasons. the just never tried it or it would not worry them :)
rusty
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Dang it Van!! Didn't you get the check to destry that pic and the negative? I'm looking good but Rusty is bringing down the quality some. LOL
Looks like we are up to our . . . . in pigs. Now we just have to figure how to get a shot. It is thicker then you can imagine along that bottom. Mostly privet, real hard to get the shot.
I had a nice boar at 12 yds the other day and all I could do was watch him walk away. No hole for an arrow, heck there wasn't a hole for a bullet. LOL
And if Rusty shows up with an assault rifle, I'm digging a foxhole.
LOL
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Mike
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I'm with Doc Noc on this. I'd take one of those P&Y raccoons if I had a chance.
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Mike, sounds like you and Rusty need my Stihl 036, go in there and chainsaw yourselves a few shootin lanes.
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Originally posted by wingnut:
Here is a pic of Roja Grande
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/mwestvang/24b710e3.jpg)
Mike
(http://www.filmdope.com/Gallery/ActorsM/11739-27021.gif) Anyone else notice a resemblance? Great thread. Lots of fun.
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heee heee - Wingnut and Jason went out to the boggy bottoms about 3:30 to put a stand in. They found a place they like. I get a call on the phone. it's Wingnut :)
"Rusty - Jason and I are out here and we got pigs walking by the truck.", Wingnut says.
"Well shoot one or two of 'em", I told him
"Ah we weren't hunting just puting in a stand and didn't bring a bow", Wingnut says kinda sheepishly.
LOL
OK Write this down.....IF YOU ARE IN THE BOGGY BOTTOMS, YOU ARE PIG HUNTING.
Now that made me laugh out loud. Over the 10 yrs I been hunting with Wingnut if he was ever anything it was prepared.....except this one time LOL. Over the tne yrs I had to borrow tabs, strings, arrows, pillow, hunting clothes, towel from Wingnut. I can't even remember all the things I left behind...but never Wingnut he had his stuff together....Heeee Heeee
Wingnut said it was the sounder with the spotted young boar in it that Shaun wanted to shoot. man he would have been a good 'em.
Oh well the good thing is there is always tomorrow. Texas I luv u!
rusty -usually has bow, arrows and copenhange, may have forgotten the rest- Craine
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Now Rusty I do remember driving 76 miles round trip from an elk camp because you forgot the copenhagen. So take that off of the list.
You forgot your sleeping bag once, your boots, etc. So forgive me this one indiscresion (sp).
LOL
It was odd to just sit and watch the pigs feed along the goat trail 20 yds from the truck while we sat there with it running. Jason even got out to pee once.
LOL
Going to hunt tomorrow night if the wind shifts.
Mike
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Rusty don't feel bad, I got a friend just like wingnut. jokingly one time while in hunting camp I made a reference to him always being prepared and having one of everything except the kitchen sink. he proceeded to go to his truck and dang if he didn't come back with a sink!
you fellas need to write a book. y'all remind me of Maggie from Bowhunter Mag. :biglaugh:
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Mike, I'm still waiting on the check. Maybe it got lost in the mail. Anyway I'm keeping the photo (that I took with my Kodak) unless the check is very, very substantial :jumper: ...Van
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Van,
After not taking a weapon any weapon with me tonight I guess I deserve the pic. LOL
They were the dumbest pigs I've ever seen (or the smartest) I could have shot a couple with my bow easy. That's my story and I'm sticking too it.
We'll see tomorrow night, I'm gillie'd up and sitting the stand at 3:30
Mike
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Ah now ya see my strategy. I just set there on my three legged stool with that really nice hat on in the picture. The pigs look out of their hidy holes and think that is the dumbest human I have ever seen. He just can't be much of a threat....... :) and he smells like corn.
OOOOOOOO soooooooouuuy here piggy piggy
rusty -look dumb and shoot straight- Craine
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Looking forward to more guys!!
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Rusty, I like your idea of getting away from the feeders to hunt hogs. Feeders are the best place to have pigs bust you especially if they've ever smelled you once at the feeder. If the sounder has busted you once they'll likely circle to get wind on the feeder every time they approach it from that point on. Here's a couple of methods that have proven themselves to me many times in this very situation.
The trail) You speak of hunting the leading trail. This is how I've smacked-down my biggest pigs ever. That old boar will always hang up on the leading trail while all the feeder pigs rush in to a feeder. I like to pick my hunting spot well upstream of the feeder and right before I hunt the trail I take a long log or stick and lay it at a 45% angle across the trail in a manner to force the hogs into a quartering shot position. They will stop to see what has upset their travel path. At the very end of the log I wipe just a small smear of scent at the end of the log to stop the pig for a shot(bacon grease works well. A TINY DAB)). This works very well on the bigger hogs. They stop to smell the end of the log every time.
The feeder) I generally let the feeder do its daily thing until the day I want to hunt. On the day I hunt I either jam the feeder or turn it off for the duration of the hunt so that it does not feed. I ease in under the feeder and and trickle a "very small" trail of corn away from the feeder in a direction where the wind will always be in my favor. At the point I wish to shoot I'll scatter a bit extra. The pigs will go to the feeder and immediately follow the trail wherever it leads. You create the shot. I don't mind using a little bait for hogs. There are times when it just seems impossible to reduce the numbers. We now have so many hogs around here that the deer seem to have moved on to other areas. The damn hogs make it awefully hard to hunt deer. Every time I get close to deer the hogs seem to come by and scare all the deer away. You guys wear em out! It looks like you might need to take some extra arrows. Good luck!!! CK
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REading this daily, and laughing at all the antics has been a real treat in these tough times! Thanks guys!
Only thing is that I think you might be doing folks a dis-service! Yup! :( Now when us blokes save up for a hog hunt, we're gonna think of your stories and come home sorely disappointed me thinks.
You two are definitely the Abbot and Costello of Hog Hunting! What a treasure to have such a grand friendship! Cudos, guys! And thanks for taking us along for the ride!
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The flu and colds hit the Wingnut and Jason at just the wrong time. :) . I like to hit the boggy bottoms in the cold. The ticks, chiggers, and poison ivy are down in count. The pig are working real hard this time of the yr till spring to get sumpin to eat. I figure a little corn now and then ain't gonna hurt.
I been waiting patiently for wingnut and jason to get some pigs. they don't ge to hunt the boggy bottoms much. As soon as they get some pork in the freezer I am going to thin down the numbers some. that is just too many pigs for the food load.
I have night hunted at a ranch over in Thurber. this ranch wants the pigs gone. I want them at a healthy population load.
When wingnut and jason get thru here is the rig I am going to use. It has a Hawglite on it. I haven't used the Hawglit before but have used a light on the bow that I made out of a headlamp strap on the rise limb pad area.
http://sites.google.com/site/stringwalkerbowhunter/nxxpert-manes
rusty
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BTW I well accept complaints that hunting at night with a light over a feeder is not really tradbow hunting. I agree actually. It is productive and it is a lot of fun. Ya still have to place your shot with all expertize, ya still have to find the pig and buthcer it.
the pigs learn very quickly though. ya get one or two tries and ya better be shooting straight right off the bat.
I was sorry to see the anchor thread closed. that was likely one of the most important thread to have been posted on this fourm. 50% of the tradbow hunters have no idea what an anchor is or where it should be. poor choice of threads to close. I guess forum thinks a four strain string is more important than a proper anchor. go figure
rusty
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I would like to assure you that everything about the feeder, night time hunting, and light are legal in Texas (Texas I luv U) when hunting pigs.
rusty
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Curtis - thanks for your hard won practicle tips. Experience is 100 times better than theory any day. it takes a lot of time and thought in the field to figure this stuff out. I appericat your hand up.
if ya stop and think about Wingnut and Jason experinece last night when they had pigs coming down the pig trial, the pigs were coming from the direction of the feeder. that would have been a great time to be in a hidy hole with your grunter :) one thing feeder does that is hard to do any other way is the it will bring pigs to an area. as the pigs get closer to the feeder they will gather to single trails going to a feeder. about 20 to 30 yds out ya will start seeing where the trails are funneling down. makes hide hunting or spot and stalk very excititing
rusty
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Well I'm going tonight!! Jason is still under the weather and Rusty is working late. Looks like I'm on my own. Going to give it a couple hours anyway and see what I can see.
Might not be that long if that sounder is around that we saw last night.
Mike
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Heee Heee Good luck. they can be hard to find after ya hit them at night If ya need help I get off and 22:00 and I'll come help......btw two pigs a night is plenty :)
rusty
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going to stop at one if I can. LOL I'm taking the camera.
Mike
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have fun!!
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Good luck Mike!
PS, take your bow.
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Well I'm back. It was exciting for a while but soon got dark and cold. Heck the temps were in the 30s when I got to the truck. LOL
Had two different boars come check it out. Got a good look at both but couldn't get a shot. DAng that stuff is thick.
Had a possum wander by. . didn't want to eat em.
The wind was bad. Need a South wind for this to work best.
Mike
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I talked to Wingnut yesterday evening. I didn't get off till six and i would dark by then. We needed to put some more corn in th feeder. We desided I'd go in with hawglite and try to get one down and then put corn in the feeder.
I spent 20 minute putting a stalk on the feeder. I tought it sounded pretty quiet. I got to my hidy hole. let things settle down. eassed out eye out around the edge of the hide????? no feeder. rud my eyes to check for sure....that's the dang tree?? had a 1/4 moon and pretty ggod light.
settle back down a few minutes to hear what I could hear.....it was way too quiet. turn my hawglit one to check on feeder....it is just gone. looked for eyes.....i was alone. got up and went to tree holding feeder. strap was busted in to. dang 'em pigs musta wanted a six pack to go. looked around for the feeder and finaly found it over by the trail in about 10 yds from the stand. place looked like a war zone :)
did have a strap (well need more than one) so I backed out and called Wingnut. I go to work this morning so Jason and Wngnut ae gonna try to set up feeder againg.
if ya tought it was just put up a feeder and drag home the pigs ya are seeing how long it really takes to get a pig off a feeder.
rusty
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Just heard from wingnut. He came by and gave me a nifty-seat we had ordered. He is on his was out to bale the feeder out. LOL I think wingnut will do a better job getting the feeder hooked to the tree. I didn't think about them wanting to have corn take-out.
Hey ya dang pigs this is an eat-in conssesion. nothing to-go, please......and stand still, form a nice line, and take turns :)
rusty -big bad wolf will huff and puff -carring the dang corn- Craine
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Is it my imagination or the more excited Rusty gets the worse his typin?
:thumbsup: :D
Great tales guys... nice to wander along even sharing the trials and frustrations...all part of it! otherwise..it'd get boring, huh? :)
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Rusty and I are going to give it another go tomorrow night. Took a while to dig the feeder tube outta the tangle. Those pigs really wanted the corn that was left. I think everytime they moved it they could hear what was left in the tube jiggling. Good think it hung up or we'd never found it.
Put two new straps on it this time.
Hope we can get em to eat a little. Dang!! :bigsmyl:
mike
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DocNoc - the worse my typing is the nearer I am late to work :) .......although if exicted I doubt I could type at all :)
the thing the get me interested in kinda revealing what goes into the a hero pic from start to finish was some of my target shooting buddies ribbing me about....what is the big deal. ya just go out and put up a stand, sprinkle a little corn around. then ya just drag home the pigs. heck fire anybody can be a hunter....they say :)
so I desided to update a thread from start to hero pic....no matter how long it took. :)
of course I could be getting out there with a walker before it happens but it will happen LOL.
most of the time we never get to see all the scouting, all the preparation, all the patience, the new approaches, the practice with bow and call, etc etc....we just get to see the hero pic :) oh anybody could be a tradbow hunter :)
rusty
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This is just an awesome thread. When these two guys get together isn't always...
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so wingnut got the feeder up and tidy tight. he and jason left if full of corn. since we want to hunt tomorrow evening if I don't get the feeder filled up in the AM we'll be hunting and feeder will be empty. ya have already seen what the pig can do over night.
In the morning before going to work at 8AM, I am gonna feed the feeder and corn the middle road a bit. If I have enough time I am gonna try and find me a hidy hole on the middle road. if wind holds from the south I might not be able to get behind and by Wingnuts stand without casting wind shadow on stand. so if I have time in the evening I will walk up the bad road and down middle to corn pile I put out in morning.
we are hunting a triangle made by the good road, the bad road and the middle road. wind usually from SSE middle road runs east and west mostly. good road runs northe and south. bad road run kinda east and SSE. if ya hunt the bad road ya are packing out pig to junction with good road. ya can drive good road from bad road to middle road. if not rained in two weeks ya can drive middle road.
the triangle maybe 120 acres or so of green briar hell.....and pig heaven :)
DocNoc did make a good point.....there is no where in Texas except a pig farm that has more pig load per acer than the boggy bottoms. the pigs have gone real nocturnal after 3 gas wells were drilled. I think the oil riggers eat pretty well while they were there.
Wingut and I are the south west conner right now. Rojo Grande came from a area east of where we are now (pipe line stand). I am not sure how many pigs I have taken over time I have hunted the boggy bottoms. could be a dozen I guess.
rusty -more than ya wanted to know about boggy bottoms- Craine
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btw that dozen or so pigs was over 5 yr or so I forget exactly.
an aside :)
by the way Van/TX if ya pick this thread up again let me ask ya a question. Do you remember that guy who came to Vanderpool pretty often that had the left/right handed bow. it had a shelf on one side of the bow. ya turned the bow upside down to shoot left handed and well upside down again to shoot right handed. did ya ever shoot the bow????? do you remember his name?
van is a right hander shooting lefty or lefty shooting righty is I recall??? and just a little younger than me :)
rusty
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Rusty, you can type bakerts for all I care and I'll still relish every tidbit of your stories!
I only ever got to hunt hogs ONCE where hogs showed up..that was with Matt and Cheryl Napper at Shiloh.
I nearly laughed myself outa the stands at sounders. Man the pigs are NUTS! Such carryin on and nutzin around...hooking, squealin, raising alarms and run off 50 yards and then stand around looking like, "did I do that" in best Erkyl fashion...
As for killin. I saw one coming...big ole boy...out oh..100 yards...moved my foot 6" real s-l-o-w...and all I got was a low, guttaral growl and he vanished! So much for blind hogs!
Thanks for highlighting how they are so smart and can be quarry tough as any! It's you guys antics together that are the best, though!
Thanks guys for taking us along. Entertaining AND educational!
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well I have not visited in a few days. I had to think this one over a bit. Wingnut is the best hunting buddy ya can have. He thinks on his feet, is a good communicator, and doesn't shoot first and ask questions later.
We turned onto the good road and drove down to fill the feeder only to find two ATV blocking our way. hmmmm one of the ATV had a long gun case unzipped and the gun was out somewhere doing something. this was about 10yds from our feeder. Wingnut cool as can be pulls up to the two fellows and a friendly sounding as can be say hey guys what is happening.
the story is they ran down a nice boar with their atvs and shot him twice in the face with a shotgun while runing at top speed.......now I am reaching for a 10mm S&W 1006 auto and extra clip to kill 'em all and let God sort them out...but deside to follow Wingnut's lead who is much wiser in these things than I am :) and handles them with very little blood shead :)
I ain't going into to detail; I just get all PO'd again and ruin my night. The situation kinda put a damper on the quest but as ever Wingnut just kept on marching to the goal and never looked back. Dang good hunting partners are hard to come by :) I glade Wingnut hunts with me. He might have saved four guys lives, I was PO'd
rusty -will get back on track- Craine
ps just cause a guy is carring a bow don't mean he ain't armed and capable of shooting 100 x 8X on a 25 yds NRA slow fire with a 10mm S&W 1006. Just keep it mind before ya make him really really mad :) and hope ya got a cool head like wingnut with ya
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well if the encounter with the tresspaaers wasn't enough. I had good luck and bad luck that night.
finally got out with the hawglite. the hawglite works great. the das elite has got a boss built around the stab attachment the looks like a do to me. a shooting friend said it was underdog which name the bow. the first picture is of underdog gone baddog all decked out with hawglite and das srf sight.
pigs started a steady assult on the feeder right after dark. passed on a few, screwed a few up getting form and hawglite on the same page. finally got my act together on a black and white 50#er+. shot was good shot. waited 30 minutes to make sure everything was quiet. I watched the dang pigs make a pigs out of themselfs. called wingnut and got down to pick up trail. the privet and green briar are so thick you are on your hands and knees blood trailing. Wingnut picks up the trail 10 yds from feeder. (pic 2) maybe 20 yds more he finds the pig (pic 3). problem....we didn't find arrow. i thought it was a pass thru clean and clear. up jumped the devil. found arrow 10yds on passed pig. pass thru musta hit a pig I did not notice on passed him. a sounder usually visits a feeder all at once. they are in constant motion. last pic is blood trail patch 30yds past first pig. trailed second pig on hands and knees for an hour and half. blood trail was petering out. boold never had bubbles in it. not dark like hit too far back was more like muscle blood. went back in this morning to pick up trail. it ended where we were last night. could not pick it up again
http://sites.google.com/site/stringw...whunter/baddog
it helps if ya hunt from a higher stand but this stand was low. this allowed pass thru to hit 2nd pig. it is much better to hunt the trails coming to the feeder. they are often in single file and you can stop them with a pig grunt call for a shot. it would be hard to do at night with a light
not only is wingnut a cool head but one of the most tenacious bloodtrailers I have hunted with. He cut his teeth and training for blood trailer hunting Washington bear before they band baiting. He was kinda the ram rod on hunting bear with his hunting buddies, I forget the exact story but his hunting buddy has got I think 2 book bears and Wingnut got one or sumpin like that. Wingnut has got a lot of gamesense if there is such a word. He keeps telling my that hunting in the tight green bria and privet in the boggy bottom is a piece of cake. much easier than trailing bear in the avalance bush. I am glade Texas dont have avalance or avalance bush :)
rusty
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I thank we are back on track now. I may go into night put a half bag of corn in and hunt the area abit. If the wind is right wingnut is going in Saturday night. I gotta go to a Pharmacy Christmas function. So stay tuned now and then. the worn is gonna turn here pretty soon.
I am going to finish putting in a tree stand if I can this after noon. we need a place to hunt the feeder when there is a north wind. the pigs seem to be coming to the feeder from the north and north west side of the stand. well the stand that was there. Wingnut took it out after our encounter with the ATV's.
I am calling the fish and game department today. I want to see how much a couple of ATV tags would be. Hey made they even pay a bounty for their ears. :)
rusty
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Now Rusty, simmer down. Them ol' boys were just out riding the atvs, drinking beer and shooting hogs with a shotgun. Heck sounds like a great redneck date. Was surprised they didn't have dates. Oh wait. . . there were four guys. :scared:
Now tresspassers and interlopers get my back up. But I think my quiet talk about spending time rooming with Bubba down at county was enough to insure they will not be back. They got out of there pretty quick after loading up the pig.
Going to try and get down tonight after the wind switchs.
Mike
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this reminds me of a story :) . these three red necks wnet hunting together. One was accidental shot. the other two get him ready and rushed him to the hospital. the wonded hnter went immenditly to surgery, after some time the surgeon appeared looking depressed and shake his head NO. the guys ask doc ya mean he didn't make it. doc shook his had NO, we did all we cold. It might have been easier to patch him up if ya hadn't fieled dressed him first :)
rusty
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man this thread is killin me! :biglaugh:
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Rusty, keep those ears and put them on your belt. When you do a show and tell for future tresspassers don't be standing in front of their ATV.
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Ha Rusty,
I saw a different version on a video somewhere. Guy is calling 911 and says "I shot my huntin' buddy. Oh Lordy, I killed him, I killed him."
The lady on the phone tries to calm him down. Finally he says "What do I do now? Oh Lordy, what do I do?"
Operator says "Just take it easy sir. First thing is you need to make sure he's dead for me."
"Uh, yea ok. I can do that."
BANG!!!!
"Ok, he's dead for sure. Now what do I do?"
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dave - LOL In Texas we always tell those jokes a Texas Aggie joke :) Thst is if ya graduated from Austin. Hook 'em Horns
rusty
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we had the brights full moon of the yr last night as you might know. Moon riser here was around 5:30 PM. The feeder was empty so I desided to go out and put some corn in and set the feeder in the full moon.
I got there about 7:00, out some corn in and get in my hidy hole. Set about 20 minutes and heard chomping under the feeder. I turned on the night light to find the biggest raccoon I have seen. red light didn't bother him much. as the moon got higher I was watching 5 racoons eating my dang corn. the biggest one would stand up on his back legs and look toward the direction we think the pigs would come from. He'd do this about every 10 or 15 minutes. I course that made me think he heard the pigs coming so I would wait another 39 minutes :) . well he pulled my chain for three hours while he had a great meal. He ask if there was wine and a desert. I flipped on the hawglite and practiced drawing on him :) . he was not intimadated at all. I stayed till 10P, feet numb, fingers numb, nose running, never to have seen a pig. I could heard them west of me maybe down in the flats.
http://sites.google.com/site/stringwalkerbowhunter/raccoons
Wingnut and I are going out this after noon to do some house keep and task.
Maybe next time
rusty
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Rusty,
De say coon roasted over mesquite is good, bedder dan possum! You'd have a dandy hat to boot.
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Rusty,
Forgot to mention the most important point. Dr. Ed's latest discovery, arras lubed with coon grease out penetrate bare shafts 2:1.
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Rusty,
Forgot to mention the most important point. Dr. Ed's latest discovery, arras lubed with coon grease out penetrate bare shafts 2:1.
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by the way Van/TX if ya pick this thread up again let me ask ya a question. Do you remember that guy who came to Vanderpool pretty often that had the left/right handed bow. it had a shelf on one side of the bow. ya turned the bow upside down to shoot left handed and well upside down again to shoot right handed. did ya ever shoot the bow????? do you remember his name?
Rusty, his name is Richard. Pronounced Reeshard. Coonass. Lives in a boathouse on the Red River. Cannot remember his first name.
He gave someone permission to produced those bows commercially but I have not seen any but his. You can phone Dennis Balusek at 936-649-0612 to find out more info or how to contact him. Dennis is a great guy he would not mind the call. I got the info from Mike Brown (M.E.B.) since I couldn't remember. It's heck gettin' old :biglaugh: ...Van
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Rusty,
Maybe you need to ventilate that big ole coon...I think you'd look pretty swell in a rackdety coon hat! :)
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Van - thanks. ever a source of knowledge....heck some of it is even useful :)
DocNoc - I watched that big coon the other night for a long time. practiced drawing on him with the hawglite to make sure I was lined up with light anf shooting form.
it was the night with the brightest moon of yr. He would hear or sense sumpin from a driection and he'd stand up on his back feet. dang he was tall. Now I had never tought much about how coons eat. I have watcheded them at the edge of a stream but never watched them for a long time at feeder. He would pick the corn up what looked like a kernal at a time with his hands and munch it. He must not have been able to see the corn kernals clearly because he would put one in his mouth the start patting the ground feeling for the bump of corn. he work on that about 20 minutes then go over to the neck of the feeder a scoop some more out on the ground and start the patting process over.
I have really have enjoyed watching the pigs and coons. I am in a hide about 8 yds from the feeder. I have had both coons and pigs pass with a few feet of me. :)
The hawglite works very well. they pay little attention to it. I have watched them enough that I can idtenify some of the different pigs.
I am waiting for my new Dryad bow to get back from camo dipping. then we got to put the sight bosses in and the stab boss. when that is done I am gonna to take a little tan boar I have got spotted. the camo dipper kinda throw a knick in the time line. He had to get a new shipment of the pattern we wanted. So that caused the adventure to continue on longer than I thought it would.
I think Winnut is going to take one before he leaves for Washington on the 22nd. I am gonna hold out for my 45# Dryad. At least for me the time has not been a waste nor the corn a waste. I have really enjoyed a peek into the into their daily life.
The pigs are just as we thought, physically tuff, tuff minded, aggersive.
rusty
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Wingnut and I got to talking the other night about pig hunting with a 45# bow. We tought about all the pig hunts we had been on and all the long searches for pigs we had been in on. I started getting cold feet and wanted to stick with heavier draw bows that I know work. I started and thread to address the matter. I got excellent feed back from pig hunters experience that reassured me.
I am gonna wait for and stick with the 45#er :)
rusty