Post by: vermonster13 on June 13, 2006, 09:52:00 PM
Offices
Archery Trade Association
Business and Trade Show Office
860 E 4500 South, Suite # 310
Salt Lake City, UT 84107
801-261-2380 801-261-2389 fax
866-266-2776 toll free ext 1
Bowhunting Preservation Alliance
304 Brown Street E
PO Box 258
Comfrey MN 56019
507-877-5300 507-877-2149 fax
866-266-2776 toll free
ArrowSport
304 Brown Street E
PO Box 258
Comfrey MN 56019
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Staff
Jay McAninch
Chief Executive Officer/President
6044 Rockton Court
Centreville, VA 20121
703-266-4134
703-266-4135 fax
[email protected]
Denise Parker
Vice President and Director of Marketing
860 E 4500 South, Suite #310
Salt Lake City, UT 84107
801-261-2380
801-261-2389 fax
[email protected]
Michelle Doerr
Education and Research Coordinator
2887 Ulm Avenue
Stewart, MN 55385
320-562-2680
320-562-6336 fax
[email protected]
Kelly A. Kelly
Operations Manager and Executive Assistant
304 Brown Street E
PO Box 258
Comfrey MN 56019
507-877-5300
507-877-2149 fax
[email protected]
Cindy Brophy
Manager of Tradeshow and Membership Services
860 E 4500 South, Suite #310
Salt Lake City, UT 84107
801-261-2380
801-261-2389 fax
[email protected]
Valerie Parker
Business Office Manager
860 E 4500 South, Suite # 310
Salt Lake City, UT 84107
801-261-2380
801-261-2389 fax
[email protected]
Bryan Roe
Membership Services Representative
860 E 4500 South, Suite # 310
Salt Lake City, UT 84107
801-261-2380
801-261-2389 fax
[email protected]
Denise Jordan
Marketing Assistant / Data Manager
860 E 4500 South, Suite # 310
Salt Lake City, UT 84107
801-261-2380
801-261-2389 fax
[email protected]
Emily Beach
Education and Research Specialist
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Salt Lake City, UT 84107
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Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on June 13, 2006, 10:10:00 PM
Post by: vermonster13 on June 13, 2006, 10:17:00 PM
Post by: Ray Hammond on June 13, 2006, 10:19:00 PM
You can see where a good many of those people are employed, however, and I just cannot believe that Easton would be so short sighted as to be seen supporting something so slimy as this...I guess I shouldn't say NEVER should I.
Post by: vermonster13 on June 13, 2006, 10:32:00 PM
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Post by: Bill Carlsen on June 14, 2006, 09:06:00 AM
Post by: vermonster13 on June 14, 2006, 09:17:00 AM
Post by: Ray Hammond on June 14, 2006, 10:25:00 AM
Sent an email to the ATA group listed above.
ATA Personnel
In the last few days I have become aware of a potential threat to bowhunting's future that you may already know of- its name is WHA - their website is www.worldhunt.com (http://www.worldhunt.com) - it is an event involving high fenced whitetails, hunted with tranquilizer darts using bows and guns, for prizes and/or money. If we are to believe Mr Farbman, the "commissioner" of WHA, it will be on television, on pay per view, and in print and DVD formats also.
The stated purpose is to educate the public on how wonderful hunting is, to improve the health of "our" deer herd, and grow the numbers of new hunters.
First of all, penned deer in a high fence hunting enclosure such as the first venue in Gladwin, MI don't affect the health of wild deer in any way, unless they carry CWD, and thus far, in my experience, there isn't any way to cure CWD in a captive, or wild whitetail. So that cannot be accomplished through this activity.
Deer shot with tranquilizers, now we know something about that, don't we? Cleveland Amory was against hunting as you know, and organized a deer rescue in the Everglades, where an annual herd thinning is conducted each year. If my information is accurate approx. 50 percent of those captured died as a result of stress or the drugs themselves, and an additional 25% died later after release as a side effect of the trauma experienced in this trap and transfer operation.
Not to mention that participation in this activity as a "player" or as a sponsor could land you in jail, as it appears based on Michigan law that this would be considered harrassment of wildlife and animal cruelty. Additionally, veterinarians who may participate are going to run afoul of the oath they took when they became vets, and might find their license revoked.
Grow the number of hunters? Hardly. Will real hunters participate in an event staged like a WWF wrestling match? I don't believe so, do you? We will certainly get young people willing to participate in this type of event, because they are malleable and when something is presented on TV its naturally going to be gussied up and polished so that a certain segment of the population will participate, but they aren't going to be hunters.
Let's face it- what Mr. Farbman is doing is providing sales for his real estate business: he is going to have ready made "venues" all surveyed out in Michigan just ready to be purchased and turned into new WHA "tracks" (how do you like that Nascar euphamism?) - and he will be the beneficiary. Not to mention his position as Commissioner...wonder if he will make as much as the NFL commissioner does?
He will or perhaps already has sold it to you and most of your membership as a ready supply of willing participants who will all have to buy the "approved gear" that ATA members can manufacture. Wow- won't that be great? He has carefully selected folks for their voting positions in ATA and approached them to be sponsors, this much we know. I'll give him this much- at 34 years old,he is either very crafty or he has had assistance from some able partners in planning this venture!
Folks, this thing is beyond scary in my opinion. You've got a guy willing to create an event where people play with the lives of living creatures for amusement, fame, cash, girls, and cars? What more could our detractors hope for us to do? There's an old saying I really like and it goes something like " I have seen the enemy, and he is US!" This Mr. Farbman cares nothing for the future of hunting and only about the "bucks" to be made off the back of hunting, and it will likely be the nail that finally closes the lid on hunting in America as we know it today.
Do you really think we need to alienate the 80% of our population that is in the middle- the ones who at this time are neither against, nor for, hunting, but who will ultimately be the people to decide our fate when the inevitable day comes and hunting's future is on a ballot? If this farce goes on as planned, we are doomed.
And, we have not even discussed the ramifications of hundreds, perhaps thousands of "players" with a controlled substance at their disposal- are we going to do background checks on everyone participating so the Jeffrey Dahmers, rapists, and killers in our society don't have an easy, cheap, and efficient means of hurting others, instead of deer?
This thing is laden with pitfalls and no one seems interested in thinking it through far enough to understand its impact. What Mr. Farbman HOPES will happen WILL NOT- he is starting a rock down a hill that will become an avalanche of negative public perception that will be out of his control and ours. You do understand that in our society today the TRUTH doesn't matter, right? It's all about the perception- the soundbite. Do not allow your membership to be drug into this morass by the lure of increased sales. These short term gains will pale in comparison to the losses they'll experience when the public comes out in force against this bastardization of an important American heritage- hunting.
I urge you to disseminate a formal statement to your membership urging them to stay away from WHA and Worldhunt activities for the good of hunting.
Thanks for taking the time to read of my concerns.
Ray Hammond
President, Suburban Whitetail Management of North Georgia, Inc
Life Member, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation
Life Member, PBS
Life Member, Traditional Bowhunters of Georgia, Inc
State Vice Chairman- National Bowhunter Education Foundation- GA Chapter
Post by: vermonster13 on June 14, 2006, 11:01:00 AM
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Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on June 14, 2006, 10:31:00 PM
He sure didn't miss an opportunity to pitch his BS about crossguns though. Go figure.
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Post by: bbassi on June 14, 2006, 10:43:00 PM
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Post by: vermonster13 on June 14, 2006, 11:43:00 PM
Also I'll post this here too. A list of the ATA's board members.
Scott Alread
Bear Archery
Marvin Carlston
Gold Tip Inc.
Peter Crawford
G5 Outdoors
Michele Eichler,
Muzzy Products Corp
Larry Griffith,
Bohning Company
Pete Shepley
Precision Shooting Equipment
Malcom Snyder
Pape's Inc.
Ben Summers,
T.R.U. Ball Release Products
Todd R Vaaler,
Gateway Feathers
Paul Vaicunas,
Horton Manufacturing Inc.
Laverne Woock,
Delta Industries
Sales Representative
Bruce Hudalla
Hudalla Associates, Inc.
Retail
Peter Gussie
Midwest Cimmarron Archery
John Larsen
Bwana Archery
Randy Phillips
Archery Headquarters Inc.
Post by: Rico on June 15, 2006, 07:13:00 AM
Post by: joel smith on June 15, 2006, 09:56:00 AM
Post by: Ray Hammond on June 15, 2006, 01:32:00 PM
"Hey guys,
Sorry for the delay in getting this to you and thanks again for calling in with your concerns.
Cabela’s was approached for sponsorship of the W.H.A. and we declined to be involved. Furthermore, consistent with the conservation groups and industry associations Cabela’s is affiliated with, we do not support the W.H.A. We are also working with our partners and suppliers to influence their stance as to this issue.
We are closely monitoring the situation and will continue to do so. Cabela’s always works to uphold the values of our customers, for they are our values as well. We appreciate your patronage.
David Draper
Outdoor Communications
Cabela's Inc."
Post by: Ray Hammond on June 15, 2006, 01:38:00 PM
I hear you. Us on the NABC received two emails from him about our anti crossbow campaign and man, you could have fertilized a 50 acre field with the manure he piled into those two small diatribes.
It was all about how great the ATA was and how concerned they were for the future of bowhunting and how, they didn't have anything to do with the push to legalize crossbows around the country and were acting ONLY in an advisory capacity and AWN, and AWN, and AWN...good grief, if I didn't know better reading them I would have thought they were from Nancy Polosi or Ted Kennedy they were so full of 1. condescension and 2.Horse puckey and 3. more horse puckey
Post by: Texasrecurve on June 15, 2006, 07:56:00 PM
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Post by: vermonster13 on June 15, 2006, 08:35:00 PM
I just got off the phone with Jay McAninch from ATA and, while their "official" statement has yet to be released, they are concerned and working to make contact with all involved. They haven't been able to meet with this Farber guy yet. They've made contact, but that's it
Post by: One eye on June 15, 2006, 09:17:00 PM
BTW, none of those names listed appear to be BIG GUNS to me!
Dan
Post by: freeman on June 15, 2006, 10:17:00 PM
Post by: Teacher_of_the_Arcane on June 16, 2006, 09:32:00 PM
Let's continue to build a data base of individuals we can contact!!
Post by: vermonster13 on June 19, 2006, 11:11:00 AM
Bowhunting Preservation Alliance
The Bowhunting Preservation Alliance is a foundation created in 2002 to increase funding potential and focus the industry’s clout in promoting and growing the sport of bowhunting. This nonprofit foundation receives its core funding and direction from the Archery Trade Association, formerly known as the Archery Manufacturers and Merchants Organization.
Under the ATA’s charter, the BPA is a charitable, tax-free organization devoted to education and research to grow and protect bowhunting. The BPA is networked to other organizations in the hunting, conservation and recreational communities. It receives its funding from proceeds generated by the annual Archery Trade Show, as well as donations from companies inside and outside the archery and bowhunting world.
Post by: IB on June 20, 2006, 07:23:00 PM
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Post by: bayoulongbowman on June 21, 2006, 10:03:00 AM
Post by: vermonster13 on June 21, 2006, 10:11:00 AM
Post by: JasonV on June 21, 2006, 10:12:00 AM
They need to be reminded that even if they are only about the money, that association with this nonhunting abomination may cost them BIG - rather than boosting sales, they may very well find a boycott of ther products by real hunters....
Our letters and e-mails will hopefully remind them of that.
Post by: IndianaBowman on June 21, 2006, 03:10:00 PM
Post by: vermonster13 on June 21, 2006, 03:17:00 PM
We need more than statements at this point though. These folks really don't care what hunters thinks or want, they are after a different market.
Post by: Ray Hammond on June 21, 2006, 03:18:00 PM
Post by: waknstak IL on July 10, 2006, 02:48:00 PM