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Title: Leather dying help?
Post by: ALW on March 01, 2008, 10:47:00 AM
I'm planning on starting a quiver soon.  The leather I have is very light in color.  Veg. tanned I think.  Anyway, I'd like to darken it and can't seem to find any dye locally.  I called several shoe stores and the so called "leather suppliers" around and nothing.  I'm really on a tight budget right now with new twins in the house, so I was wondering if anyone had used any simple, non-commercial stuff to dye leather.  I actually used coffee awhile back on a knife sheath.  It darkened it somewhat but not really dark.  Also would there be anything at a Wal-Mart, K-Mart, etc.... that could be used.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Aaron
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: adam on March 01, 2008, 10:51:00 AM
Check hobby lobby if there is one close if not check a local shoe hospitial. My couisn works at one and i've bought a good bit from him.

Adam
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: portugeejn on March 01, 2008, 11:33:00 AM
You might want to try it on a small piece of scrap to see how it works, and whether the color will rub off, but in a pinch for something darker I've used wood stain on leather and it worked well enough.  I am pretty sure it was a water based stain.  It can dry out the leather badly, so use some leather conditioner afterwards.  I use Lexol.  

Ron
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: JAG on March 01, 2008, 04:42:00 PM
Try some good ole Ritt Dye.  Go with lighter than what you want, check color on a scrap piece.
Either mix the Ritt with water as per directions, or I use denatured alachol like on wood arrows.  Either way, use a sealer.
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: Big Riser on March 01, 2008, 09:46:00 PM
I made my own quiver last year its great.I found everything I needed at TANDY LEATHER.MY DYE COLOR WAS OX BLOOD RED CAME OUT AWESOME.WOULD DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN .MY BEST ON YOUR VENTURE.
                              BIG RISER
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: Wild Russian on March 02, 2008, 04:17:00 AM
Give a try to household or bakers soda (red-brown color to dark brown color) and copperas - from grey to almost black. Make a water solution and apply to a leather.
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: OconeeDan on March 02, 2008, 05:35:00 AM
What are you going to treat it with?  Take a scrap, and treat it.  It may darken it enough so you don't want to dye it.
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: ALW on March 02, 2008, 10:06:00 AM
Thanks for all the tips guys.  I'm planning on making a side stalker type quiver.  I'm going to have to piece it a bit as the pieces I have aren't quite big enough for the whole pattern.  As far as treating it, I have no idea.  Snow seal maybe?  Any tips on sealants?  The leather is pretty stiff and I don't want to soften it much for this type of quiver.  

We used to have a Tandy in town but they went out some years back and so far I can't find any place nearby that has what I need.  But I'll do a little more searching.  I did a back quiver last year that came out pretty good but I used a softer leather that didn't need dying.  So coloring the leather is new to me.

Thanks again for the help.  Aaron
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: ALW on April 12, 2008, 07:56:00 PM
Thought I'd bring this back up for one more question.  I'm getting ready to start the quiver, finally.  I found some dye locally and now I'm wondering if I should dye the leather before I put the thing together or wait until it's all stitched up and dye it?  Any help?  I will also be contact cementing some of it together before I punch holes and stitch it.  Thanks.

Aaron
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: JAG on April 12, 2008, 08:27:00 PM
I would dye it before you put it together.
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: robtattoo on April 12, 2008, 09:06:00 PM
Definately dye it first. There's nothing worse than not being able to reach that last...little...bit & having it come out a different colour!
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: Dave Huff on April 12, 2008, 09:10:00 PM
Tandy Leather, Hide Crafters, Leather unlimited
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: ALW on April 13, 2008, 08:25:00 AM
Thanks.  I'll dye it first.  If I every get it done I'll try and post some pictures.

Aaron
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: madness522 on April 13, 2008, 06:11:00 PM
I have several of the leather sealers from Tandy and I like good old Mink oil the best.  If you heat the leather just a little and work two or three coats of Mink oil in it will protect and waterproof the leather.
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: sticshooter on April 13, 2008, 11:04:00 PM
Fiebing's has been some of the best around also...the resolene is perfect for waterproofing and is made to last but has a glossier sheen to it for a quiver. I like the mink oil too.

It is locally made here in Milwaukee and available at Tandy's as well or online shops.
Made especially for weathered leather goods like saddlry.

 www.Fiebing.com (http://www.Fiebing.com)  

Shell (on hubby's login)
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: ALW on May 01, 2008, 12:27:00 PM
Bringing this up again.  Sorry.  I got Fiebings dye at a little shoe repair place I found.  The guy also has sewing awl thread and a lot of other stuff that may come in useful.  Anyway, I dyed the leather with a med. brown dye and it came out prety nice.  I contact cemented the pieces together and have the first batch of holes punched.  I haven't put any leather treatment on it yet.  Still not sure what I'm going to use.  But will some of the treatments that you guys mentioned set the dye to the leather?  I've noticed that while I'm working on getting the holes punched and such that the dye is staining my skin some.  I'm sure if I don't treat it that it will ruin any clothes I have on.  Will stuff like snow seal stop this or do I need one of the above mentioned leather treatments.  I'm sure the shoe place I got the dye from has some stuff but I haven't gotten that far yet.  Thanks in advance and hopefully no more questions!  LOL....

Aaron
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: last arrow on May 02, 2008, 09:50:00 AM
I have used snowseal and pitch blend to seal the leather.  i think both are "wax sealers" that help to keep the color from rubbing off.  Be sure to seal it before you stitch, otherwise the dye will stain the stiching the first time you put sealer on it (don't be like me).

Good luck with your project.
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: ALW on May 09, 2008, 05:35:00 PM
Thanks again for all the advice.  I got it finished finally.  Thought I'd post a picture.  Hopefully.

Aaron

 (http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj82/woodscraper/quiver/sidestalker.jpg)
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: BodarkOkie on May 09, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
Nice work, Aaron.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: kurtbel5 on May 11, 2008, 11:35:00 PM
Great job Aaron
1st leather project? pretty dang good
        Kurt
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: portugeejn on May 12, 2008, 12:02:00 AM
Nice!  I made myself a shoulder  holster once that bled dye all over an expensive dress shirt.  After that episode I found that Tandy Super Sheen seals the dye in.

Ron
Title: Re: Leather dying help?
Post by: ALW on May 12, 2008, 05:54:00 PM
Thanks guys.  I'll have to give it a try now and see how it works out.

I've tinkered around making a few things with leather.  A back quiver, some knife sheathes, etc.  This was the first time I had to dye leather and I'm still wearing the color on me!  LOL....   I sealed it with a bunch of SnoSeal.  So far it hasn't bled out on my clothes, but I haven't had it out in the field yet.  We'll see!