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Title: Can't seem to put it all together (Videos inside)
Post by: NotDylan on July 13, 2018, 07:33:32 PM

I'm getting back into archery after taking a few years off and I'm picking up right where I left off, which is with inconsistent results.  Sometimes they go where I want, sometimes they don't.  Sometimes the groups are tight, sometimes they're not.  I have not been able to put my finger on it.  Here are a few videos of my form.  Note than on form #3 vid, I purposely drew differently and tried to keep my rear arm straighter.  Not sure if that is better or not.   Also note that my arrows are not yet properly tuned to my bow.   

https://youtu.be/gFzXYq0sZP4
https://youtu.be/lHDzcjLWMtM
https://youtu.be/Mab-2mazADA

Title: Re: Can't seem to put it all together (Videos inside)
Post by: moebow on July 13, 2018, 09:01:03 PM

First, don't worry about your arrows yet, frankly you aren't ready to tune anyway.  That's NOT a slam just that your execution won't allow you to tune yet so just shoot the arrows you  have and don't worry about it.

Your full draw position in the second video is better than any of the others.  Your bow shoulder is down, your string forearm is in good position, vertically but can't tell about horizontally.

First two videos, Do not point the arrow up like that!  Then watch your hands as you draw.  They move differently  and not together.  String hand moves then bow hand moves. They need to move together.  Lift bow to draw (arrow about eye level) and keep arrow level to the world then as you draw, BOTH hands come down together.

Third video, string elbow starts too low and stays too low.  I'd discard that technique.

These statements are based on the style I teach and you will probably get other input that you should consider!

I'd also recommend that you set the target at shoulder height and 5 or 6 feet in front of you and just work on the sequence for a while, don't try to hit a bull's eye just use the target to catch arrows for a while.

Arne

Title: Re: Can't seem to put it all together (Videos inside)
Post by: moebow on July 13, 2018, 09:03:02 PM

PS.  Hold your head still!!  Draw to your un-moving head, do not cuddle up to the string or string hand by moving the head.

Arne

Title: Re: Can't seem to put it all together (Videos inside)
Post by: NotDylan on July 13, 2018, 10:12:29 PM

Thanks for the feedback!  Can you elaborate on what you mean about both hands coming down together?

Title: Re: Can't seem to put it all together (Videos inside)
Post by: moebow on July 14, 2018, 07:38:57 AM

Well, when you go to lift the bow up to draw, both hands (and arms) will be at about the same height level -- I recommend arrow level at about eye level.  then as you draw, both hands and arms move together, slightly coming down. Bow hand to target and string hand to anchor.

In your first 2 videos, watch your hands.  See how your string hand leads the movement and your bow hand doesn't really move until after string hand reaches anchor?  Your hands and arms move together as they are both connected to the bow.

Arne

Title: Re: Can't seem to put it all together (Videos inside)
Post by: Gentle-Savage on July 21, 2018, 03:44:54 AM

Hi there - something I noticed right away ( and I gather this from my experience as a personal trainer), it appears you are pulling with your hand and bicep, as opposed to pulling  with your lats and rhomboids.

Drive the force back with your elbow, don't focus on pulling the string back. Hope that makes sense