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Title: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 15, 2019, 04:25:50 PM
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Ray Lyon and I are dear friends,this is all in fun. And we don't believe our own smack. That said, this might get ugly..... :biglaugh:

It is important to know that we have a years long ShrewHaven text going, and we debate, argue, and generally beat each other up every day. Recently, Ray Lyon has taken exception to the well documented fact that I am the greatest bow shooter since archery was invented. It bothers him that the world renowned Norris Totally Accurate Archery Rankings lists the world greatest archers as:

1. ME
2. ME AGAIN
3. Greg Nicolaou

Not Raymond.

Therefore, we have decided to have a "Grudge Match" shoot off. I proposed we meet at Compton, shoot an agreed upon range, and I nominated Tom Jenkins as the impartial judge. Winner takes all Grand Prize would be a bottle of Blantons.

Ray wouldn't have it. He claims to have a travel conflict because of his daughters graduation (I have known Ray 20 years, and this is the first I have heard of a daughter, I'm certain he is making that up). He wants to have the contest up near his house, at a mutual friends 3D course (and obvious ploy at home field advantage). His accountants evil mind also concocted some extravagant method of deciding what bow we should use.

I say we should both shoot our new Shrew Li'l Favorites.  Ray is trying to confuse me with choices and balance sheets.

I believe I will agree to his home field advantage ploy, but for balance I have enlisted Ron LaClair as my coach. Aside from me being the worlds greatest 1st and 2nd place archer, Ron is pretty good too.

Ray also balked at the Grand Prize of a bottle of Blantons. His excuse was "we can't find it around here" :laughing We all know he has a case of Blantons stashed in his cherry cellar, but is too stingy to share. So I countered with donating a like amount to St Judes. So here is my re-wager: Loser donates $100 to St Judes.

Thats where you fine people come in. I encourage you to pick a side. Even if you choose Ray. And wager on your choice. If your guy loses, you donate. If your guys wins, you should still donate.  :biglaugh:

So pick a side, and please pick Ray so that the kids get a bunch of money. We won't be shooting this match until summer, so we have plenty of time to talk about the Norris Totally Accurate World Archery Rankings, once again:

1. ME
2.ME
3. Greg Nicoloau

Not Ray.

Raymond,you rebuttal is welcomed.  :bigsmyl: :archer2:

Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Wudstix on February 15, 2019, 04:56:09 PM
Makes total sense, sounds fair. 
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 15, 2019, 08:59:45 PM
WOW, you get tied up in meetings and family dinner and then you come here and see the reincarnation of the old Ron LaClair versus Denny Sturgis, Jr. shooting challenges from Tradgang days gone by.  Now Roger may claim outrageous feats with his bow shooting acumen??!🤔🤔. I’m not going to pretend I’m a great shot and certainly not in the league of Ron or Denny.  I do know Roger shoots about ten times the volume of me every year, so if you’re all ‘wagering’ on someone, you should keep that in mind. But y’all have to ask yourselves the following few questions:
1) Would Howard Hill have cared about where he was shooting a match?
2) If I was the greatest bow shot ever, would I care about what bow I had in my hands against a mere mortal?
3) I have one opened bottle of Blantons and I’ve only had two bottles in my possession because up here in the great northwest part of Lower Michigan we rarely see a bottle of Blantons. When I did see it I bought two bottles, which was the limit the store would allow, and I gave one of those bottles to Roger’s new shooting coach, Ron LaClair, because I know how much he appreciates it and has the same trouble finding it.  So obviously I would not be afraid to put up a bottle of blantons if I had any remote chance of finding one. 
But, I get Rogers ploy. He’s got to write a good tale to build himself up and convince himself that him beating me is in the realm of possibilities.  For those of you who need to understand the relationship between Roger and my shooting skills, we’ll just consider me as the New England Patriots and Roger all the others.
And, if you’d like a little more factual/concrete answer about shooting (and hunting) prowess, just ask Ole Sledge who has put more deer on the Shrewhaven deer pole over the years?  It’s a real simple question Roger, you or me, who’s put more deer on the pole?   

 :archer2:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 16, 2019, 12:17:02 AM
You gotta give Roger credit being smart enough to get a former World Longbow Champion as a coach....and I've got the Trophy to prove it

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Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 16, 2019, 04:05:27 AM
I’m really glad to see Roger enlisting the services as a coach, as it’s important to understand when you know you need help. 

By the way Roger, it’s understandable that you would have amnesia about my daughter and her graduation. Had she not gotten so involved in running and preparing herself to move on to college athletics, she would have loved to join in and teach you how to shoot a Lil Favorite.  None the less, I have great memories of her times she ventured into the woods with me. 
Morgan getting ready to graduate and take on college:

It feels like I blinked and this happened.  but I digress just enough to show the Gang there’s a few holes in Rogers above story.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 16, 2019, 04:12:57 AM
Not sure how I messed up pictures but here’s Morgan with her Lil Favorite after a morning hunt
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Back then she would have loved to show Roger a thing or two about shooting
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 16, 2019, 10:22:46 AM
Raymond, Raymond, Raymond. You have clearly photo shopped super models and are pretending they are your daughters. Aint no way beauty like that sprung forth out of your gene pool  :biglaugh:

And I understand that you want to keep your case of Blantons a secret. We both know why.... :bigsmyl:

You do realize that other members of ShrewHaven have signed on, right? Eric I, Eric II, and Kevin all want a shot at the title. Therefore, I will do the shoot off anywhere the group chooses.

You actually might have more deer on the ShrewHaven pole than me, but heck Ray.....you have been a member at least 5 years longer. As an excellent accountant, you should probably have a flung arrow:dead deer data sheet somewhere.

Mr. LaClair, as much as I do respect your archery accomplishments, posting a picture of you shaking hands with a porn star clearly violates your contract.

Remember:

1. ME
2. STILL ME
3. Greg The Greek
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: elkken on February 16, 2019, 10:38:02 AM
Well I know where the first $100 of my St Judes money is going this year … this is entertainment   :biglaugh: :archer2:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Trenton G. on February 16, 2019, 05:18:24 PM
Seeing how you guys are all shrewhaven members, I say the proper place to have the shoot out would be in the U.P. Preferably at the range in Ishpming so that I can come watch. :laughing:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: STICKBENDER98 on February 16, 2019, 06:18:37 PM
This could get interesting, I think neutral ground should be considered.  The Barryton  Stickbow  Shoot should be close to middle  ground to those in the match. If everyone could wait until the end of July to settle this match.   :archer:

Jason
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 16, 2019, 10:16:24 PM
Seeing how you guys are all shrewhaven members, I say the proper place to have the shoot out would be in the U.P. Preferably at the range in Ishpming so that I can come watch. :laughing:

Love going to the UP and especially the Huron Bakery in Ishpeming!  I’ve seen a lot of cross country ski racing at Al Quaal over the years and maybe it’s time to see Ishpeming when it’s not buried in snow.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 17, 2019, 03:48:27 PM
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Mr. LaClair, as much as I do respect your archery accomplishments, posting a picture of you shaking hands with a porn star clearly violates your contract.


Roger, making fun of one of the highlights of my archery career has forced me to release this picture taken just a few years ago at the Elm Hall traditional shoot. You and Greg Nicolaou
 got your butt's whipped by the old man. To make matters worse I did it with an old bow that I had never shot before and had just bought off someone's table.

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Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 17, 2019, 04:26:21 PM
ouch, right for the jugular 😬😬
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 17, 2019, 07:43:26 PM
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Mr. LaClair, as much as I do respect your archery accomplishments, posting a picture of you shaking hands with a porn star clearly violates your contract.


Roger, making fun of one of the highlights of my archery career has forced me to release this picture taken just a few years ago at the Elm Hall traditional shoot. You and Greg Nicolaou
 got your butt's whipped by the old man. To make matters worse I did it with an old bow that I had never shot before and had just bought off someone's table.



Ron, your ability with a longbow is legendary. But your ability with photoshop is amazing for an old timer huddling under a buffalo robe! Bravo!
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Bigriver on February 17, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
I just want to know where to get a bottle or 4 of Blantons, it's like liquid gold. That would be great incentive to train.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 17, 2019, 08:45:25 PM
I just want to know where to get a bottle or 4 of Blantons, it's like liquid gold. That would be great incentive to train.

Ray has most of it. He hides it in his cellar from Ron. Myself, I never touch the stuff.  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Bigriver on February 17, 2019, 09:11:05 PM
Sounds like a good strategy  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 18, 2019, 06:58:18 AM
Roger travels to Kentucky to see customers on a regular basis.  He makes moonshiners look like they’re out for a Sunday drive and he’s hauled more premium bourbon than cases of beer in Smokey and the Bandit run.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 18, 2019, 08:45:14 AM
I heard he dropped a Grand at the Liquor Barn on his last trip. I don't touch the stuff myself


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Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 18, 2019, 09:09:06 AM
I remember having a curmudgeonly accomplice on that adventure....


(https://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/rnorris/RONB_zpsxok8bya5.jpg) (https://s65.photobucket.com/user/rnorris/media/RONB_zpsxok8bya5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Bigriver on February 18, 2019, 09:21:02 AM
Im might never come out of that store, call 911, I`m lost in the bourbon isle!
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 18, 2019, 09:41:52 AM
I remember that, I stayed in the truck while you went in and filled a shopping cart with bottles of bourbon.


Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 18, 2019, 05:32:54 PM
Not how I remember it  :bigsmyl:

(https://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h227/rnorris/RONBB_zpsvaythnr0.jpg) (https://s65.photobucket.com/user/rnorris/media/RONBB_zpsvaythnr0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 18, 2019, 08:02:03 PM
Dang, you both should have plead the fifth instead of drinking it.   

Well, back to the competition, as y’all can see backing team Lyon is a vote for shooting with a clear mind. 
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 18, 2019, 08:16:28 PM
The way I remember it was you said, "Ron, grab a couple bottles of Bladé and Bow so I can get a picture"

Notice, I'm wearing a different hat and vest in the last picture so that wasn't the same time. You didn't get away with that one Roger.


Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 18, 2019, 09:04:45 PM
I’ve always heard a good coaching/pupal relationship is built off of trustworthy and open communication.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 19, 2019, 05:55:30 AM
So you decide Ray....where will the shoot be?

1. ME
2. ME
3. Greg N

827. Ray Lyon
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 19, 2019, 06:08:18 AM
That’s interesting order of listing. The last time there was a shoot off with any of the Shrewhaven gang present (which was you, Greg and Ron), Ron whupped you and Greg like rented mules with a garage sale bow he had bought that weekend.  However, I’m kinda liking this underdog position you’ve concocted for me.  It’s beginning to make my Lil Favorite and cedar arrows synonymous with a sling and a rock from biblical times.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 19, 2019, 06:34:28 AM
That’s interesting order of listing. The last time there was a shoot off with any of the Shrewhaven gang present (which was you, Greg and Ron), Ron whupped you and Greg like rented mules with a garage sale bow he had bought that weekend.  However, I’m kinda liking this underdog position you’ve concocted for me.  It’s beginning to make my Lil Favorite and cedar arrows synonymous with a sling and a rock from biblical times.

You go ahead and believe Ron's concocted story about beating me and Greg that day. What he isn't telling you, is that the scorekeeping wasn't exactly agreed upon.It led to the following week with Mrs. Krogel keeping score. Ron was fit to be tied because being a gentleman he could intimidate the judge. Ask him who won THAT day....

I am hereby upping the bet: $100 to St Judes, and one 4 pound hickory handled sledge hammer.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 19, 2019, 06:59:19 AM
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Ha, my super secret weapon, an Allen Shaffer crafted sting for my Lil Favorite, is on the way! You should just concede now to avoid the inevitable embarrassment.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 19, 2019, 07:02:26 AM


Ha, my super secret weapon, an Allen Shaffer crafted sting for my Lil Favorite, is on the way! You should just concede now to avoid the inevitable embarrassment.

LOL....I just received the same notification. Check.  :laughing:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 19, 2019, 08:03:18 AM
Oh, that’s right, I wouldn’t want to take advantage of my good buddy so I set him up with my ace string builder.  You shooting high tech expensive carbon arrows or plain ole wood arrows like me??
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 19, 2019, 09:11:13 AM
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You go ahead and believe Ron's concocted story about beating me and Greg that day. What he isn't telling you, is that the scorekeeping wasn't exactly agreed upon.It led to the following week with Mrs. Krogel keeping score. Ron was fit to be tied because being a gentleman he could intimidate the judge. Ask him who won THAT day....

White man speak with forked tongue.  :nono:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 19, 2019, 09:21:12 AM
Oh, that’s right, I wouldn’t want to take advantage of my good buddy so I set him up with my ace string builder.  You shooting high tech expensive carbon arrows or plain ole wood arrows like me??

I will be shooting perfectly matched and tuned carbon shafts. You have no chance of victory.  :archer2:

Ron, you are old and respected enough that you can tell the story any way you want. And I am really sorry about the buffalo. Being gone. Because you were probably hungry.  :archer:

Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 19, 2019, 10:16:43 AM
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Ron, you are old and respected enough that you can tell the story any way you want. And I am really sorry about the buffalo. Being gone. Because you were probably hungry.

The big Shaggy's ain't gone yet an I'll never go hungry. This'n is the last one I kilt, enough meat to feed me all winter

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Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 19, 2019, 10:21:55 AM
Made me a coat outta his hide


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Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 20, 2019, 05:45:06 AM
There once was an archer named Ray
He shot his Shrew every day
But try as he might
He never got good flight
And The Sledgehammer crushed him in May

 :biglaugh:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 20, 2019, 06:29:04 AM
That’s really cute Roger.  I’d suggest you stick to practicing your shooting and leave the poetry to your coach.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 20, 2019, 06:38:53 AM
That’s really cute Roger.  I’d suggest you stick to practicing your shooting and leave the poetry to your coach.

Have you picked a range yet?
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 20, 2019, 06:51:47 AM
no ‘Waterloo’ site for you yet.  Is there a comprehensive list of shoots we can view to discuss with the other Shrewhaven gang to see about comprehensive participation??  Otherwise I can see where this will go. I whup your butt and the next thing I know one of the other gang starts spouting off with delusions of grandeur like you and the whole thing starts all over again.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 20, 2019, 07:03:34 AM
no ‘Waterloo’ site for you yet.  Is there a comprehensive list of shoots we can view to discuss with the other Shrewhaven gang to see about comprehensive participation??  Otherwise I can see where this will go. I whup your butt and the next thing I know one of the other gang starts spouting off with delusions of grandeur like you and the whole thing starts all over again.

 :biglaugh: :biglaugh:It's probably best if we pick someplace close to home for you. I don't want you driving a long distance, all depressed, listening to Lady Gaga music. :laughing:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 20, 2019, 07:48:49 AM
yes, it’s always depressing to see a dear friend in despair and I will certainly worry about your state of mind after losing like you’re about to.  That’s the kind of guy I am.  You’ve impressed me from the moment you were in camp the first time, as a guest after winning the St Jude auction, and you wanted to do dishes and haul water and wood.  That being said, As much as I like you, my conscience won’t let me throw the match on your behalf, as that would lead to an even bigger noggin and you’ve already got a big investment in hats. 
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 20, 2019, 08:58:00 AM
Back and forth...you guys remind me of...

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Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 20, 2019, 10:31:44 AM
I’m way better looking
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 20, 2019, 10:36:54 AM
I’m way better looking

Rankings show that you are the 12th best looking guy in archery.  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 20, 2019, 02:46:54 PM
I won first place in a baby contest when I was little and have kept my good looks ever since


Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Kingstaken on February 21, 2019, 08:16:27 PM
I'm sure Mikey from Cos Cob would love to have it there this April at their trad shoot.   :pray:
A lot of Tradgang members will be there to witness it, that's of course if no one minds witnesses..
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 21, 2019, 09:38:53 PM
Where’s that at Kingstaken??
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Kingstaken on February 21, 2019, 10:16:37 PM
Cos Cob , CT
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 22, 2019, 06:48:59 AM
Kingstaken, we’re probably going to look to Southwest Michigan so as to make it somewhat central for all involved.  Roger, do you have a shoot list for the year that we can review?  I realize that’s synonymous with handing you a shovel and asking to dig your own grave. 
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 22, 2019, 06:53:34 AM
I won first place in a baby contest when I was little and have kept my good looks ever since




Cute picture Ron. Is the fact that this photo was taken with one of those black powder flash cameras the inspiration for your love of black powder guns?
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: STICKBENDER98 on February 22, 2019, 10:27:37 AM
With all this rib poking and laughing going on I’m not sure you all will be able to pull your bows back and shoot them.  :biglaugh:

Jason
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 22, 2019, 10:50:08 AM
That’s part of Roger’s plan but he doesn’t realize I have nerves of steel.  Now there was the time in Grayling that Ron, Greg and I were shooting the hand painted target course.  I’m not going to name names, however the person in the group with the same initials proudly proclaims he’s just made a double lung shot.  Of course the other two members couldn’t stop laughing enough to shoot a straight arrow seeing as how it would have been the finest ‘double lung’ gut shot we’d ever seen.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 22, 2019, 10:52:51 AM
That’s part of Roger’s plan but he doesn’t realize I have nerves of steel.  Now there was the time in Grayling that Ron, Greg and I were shooting the hand painted target course.  I’m not going to name names, however the person in the group with the same initials proudly proclaims he’s just made a double lung shot.  Of course the other two members couldn’t stop laughing enough to shoot a straight arrow seeing as how it would have been the finest ‘double lung’ gut shot we’d ever seen.

How about Elm Hall, August 2 through 4?

That way you can soak in the Pine River afterwards...
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 22, 2019, 11:03:50 AM
👍👍. Ah yes, the place of your last drubbing from a garage sale bow.  Will be like a trip down memory lane for you.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 22, 2019, 11:22:29 AM
👍👍. Ah yes, the place of your last drubbing from a garage sale bow.  Will be like a trip down memory lane for you.

So it's a date?
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 22, 2019, 11:40:37 AM
I’ve got a few spreadsheets and scheduling programs to run but I’m pretty sure this will work out 😘
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 22, 2019, 11:42:15 AM
By the way, no need for you to worry about attending the big feed on Saturday night because you will be full of crow😜
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 22, 2019, 11:46:20 AM
Two friends met at the range in Elm Hall

One short and cocky, one humble and tall

One emptied his quiver, on the banks of Pine River

And the cocky one went home with it all

Clearly I am the best poet also.  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 22, 2019, 11:47:14 AM
Don’t quit your day job
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 22, 2019, 11:48:03 AM
Don’t quit your day job

You have a day job?
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 22, 2019, 02:07:00 PM
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Two friends met at the range in Elm Hall

One short and cocky, one humble and tall

One emptied his quiver, on the banks of Pine River

And the cocky one went home with it all

Clearly I am the best poet also.


Clearly

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Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ron LaClair on February 22, 2019, 03:12:50 PM
      THE GREAT SHREW BOW SHOWDOWN

Two long time friends got to talkin one time
One said to the other "your butt would be mine"
Shootin any bow you want, you can choose the place
You'll leave dejected and beat in terrible disgrace

The date has been set, the place has been picked
The braggin has started sayin who's gonna get licked
If I was to bet it'd be real hard to choose
they're both my friends, I don't want either to loose

When the time comes up at Elm Hall this summer
one will leave smiling, the other will say, "Bummer"
One thing you can count on when all's said and done
They'll still be good friends cuz it was all just in fun
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 22, 2019, 03:49:32 PM
Grand poem Ron. 

Start practicing saying Bummer Roger
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 22, 2019, 06:03:14 PM
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Keep chirping...
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 26, 2019, 06:09:58 AM
Ray - I think it's time we debated the scoring rules.

I don't think standard 3D rules reflect hunting shots very well.

I propose:

Heart/lung kill ring :10 points
Miss : 0 points
Anywhere else on the 3D target : -5 points
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 26, 2019, 06:36:22 AM
Great idea.  I’ll write a custom program App that’ll tally the scores accurately. 😘
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 26, 2019, 06:43:32 AM
App written.  Seems to be working well. First three tests have me winning, must be correct.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on February 26, 2019, 10:38:24 AM
App written.  Seems to be working well. First three tests have me winning, must be correct.


This is like playing chess against a computer.... :archer2:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on February 26, 2019, 12:25:57 PM
Yes, I’ve been described as a shooting machine. 😉
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Wudstix on March 01, 2019, 04:56:21 PM
Wish I could be present for this. 
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on March 01, 2019, 05:31:41 PM
Wish I could be present for this.

You are certainly welcome to attend, but seeing Ray in defeat will not be pleasant. He is such a good guy, seeing him laying on the forest floor, sobbing and smashing his bow against the cedar roots will be just awful....
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 01, 2019, 07:47:42 PM
Oh my Roger, you best be purchasing a recipe book. You’re going to eating a lot of it. 
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Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on March 03, 2019, 09:17:26 PM
Ray has made a request that befuddles me....he wants to add a wing shooting and spelling bee element to our grudge match....hmmmmm


 :biglaugh: :archer: :archer2:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 03, 2019, 09:34:20 PM
Somebody has to provide the crow for you to eat, because we all know you can’t hit a flying target. Oh, by the way, yes I have shot a crow on the wing before with an arrow.  It wouldn’t leave the bird feeder alone so one morning I stepped around the garage and he took off. I swung and took him on the wing at 15 yards.  So if you want to add archery aerial targets to the competition then bring it.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on March 03, 2019, 09:40:51 PM
You went over the spelling on that response 3 times. Admit it :biglaugh:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 03, 2019, 09:53:53 PM
Four, and I turned off autocorrect too. 😘
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 03, 2019, 09:59:35 PM
P.S.—-if a flock of crows comes in to the hide I’ll try to pick a young tender one out for you.  Ron’s pretty adept at barbecue so perhaps he can coach you on that as well.😆
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 06, 2019, 06:44:55 AM

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That is awesome, good for you.

I will never, ever, forget my first special order Northern Mist. It arrived on a Saturday morning. I had nothing going on that day, and the weather was perfect. My wife was off doing girl stuff. I sat in my yard, messing with that bow for hours. Brace height, nock points, arrow selection....I probably spent 4 hour just playing with it.

It was a dang good day................and then the realization struck, I still can’t beat Raymond!😥😥
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on March 06, 2019, 07:48:23 AM
Oh Raymond.....now falling back on plagiarism and misquoting to try and gain an edge.

I would like to add to the bet.

Loser wears a "Roger (or  Ray) Is The Best Archer" T-shirt and the picture has to become the Tradgang profile pic for a year.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 06, 2019, 08:28:00 AM
 :biglaugh: :biglaugh:  Yep, it’s about time for you to have a new avitar
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on March 06, 2019, 10:30:27 AM
1st Place - Greatest Archer In ShrewHaven History
2nd Place - A really nice set of steak knives.   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 09, 2019, 04:38:20 PM
So here’s a little update for all those considering signing up on Roger’s side or the winning side. 
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As you can see, Roger has been diligently shooting in his winter archery league. I on the other hand have been shut down for over a month:
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But, I’ve learned the benefits of cross training from my collegiate athlete daughters, so:
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Roof raking and cross country skiing are allowing me to keep my back, shoulder, arms and core tuned up. More importantly, you’ve got to ask yourself are you going to want to back Roger, who’s going to peak early in his training or someone like me, who’s going to crescendo at the competition? 
 
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on March 09, 2019, 06:29:28 PM
Dang Ray...it’s pretty early for the “weather excuse”
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: 1Arrow1Kill on March 09, 2019, 09:15:02 PM
 :archer2:    vs     :archer2:

Two Michiganders
Men amongst boys
Got up their dander
Took up their toys

The match was set
Date with location chosen
A bold friendly bet
Who's the best bowman

One took to bragging
The other took the bait
Who's butt would be dragging
Who's dancing a proud gait

Each knew he was best
Tried to convince the Gang
Strutted proudly for the rest
Two loud cymbals clang - clang

Seems these men were all talk
Didn't put on much of a show
Both shooters did balk
Wild arrows flew from each bow

As the embarrassment concluded
Arrows back in the quiver
Meekness from pride extruded
Tears running deep like a river

They sat with some Blantons
And toasted each other
We may not be shooters
But we're still Trad Gang Brothers

Here's to Men Like Us - Damn Few!    We'll All Drink To That!










Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 09, 2019, 10:10:59 PM
Clearly 1Arrowkill thought he was posting on another thread. 
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 09, 2019, 10:16:43 PM
Oh Grasshopper Norris, the fallacy in your argument is that you have a chance to beat me, which would be the only reason I would need an excuse.  I was only pointing out the geographic difference in our homesteads.  😉
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: 1Arrow1Kill on March 09, 2019, 10:30:15 PM
Nope RL, right thread.  I just love me some good smack talking.  Couldn't help but join the fun.   :knothead: 

If'n y'all are kind enough to invite me and tell me where y'all are competing, I'll try hard to make the event. 
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Trenton G. on March 09, 2019, 10:34:28 PM
Hey Ray, I've been pitching my idea for a moose hunt on Isle Royale to one of my buddies at Michigan Tech who's involved with the predator pretty study out in the island. He says it sounds like a good idea, so I'll let you know if it happens! :pray:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 10, 2019, 05:56:58 AM
Trenton, my daughter is a freshman at Tech. I’ve never been out to th island but it seems like they are struggling to keep wolves alive and they are worried about moose overpopulation. Sounds like a recipe for bow hunting to me; the greatest archer in Shrewhaven history. 
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 10, 2019, 09:28:57 PM
My spies got a look at Rogers last practice session:
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Looking solid buddy😉
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on March 11, 2019, 05:58:55 AM
:archer2:    vs     :archer2:

Two Michiganders
Men amongst boys
Got up their dander
Took up their toys

The match was set
Date with location chosen
A bold friendly bet
Who's the best bowman

One took to bragging
The other took the bait
Who's butt would be dragging
Who's dancing a proud gait

Each knew he was best
Tried to convince the Gang
Strutted proudly for the rest
Two loud cymbals clang - clang

Seems these men were all talk
Didn't put on much of a show
Both shooters did balk
Wild arrows flew from each bow

As the embarrassment concluded
Arrows back in the quiver
Meekness from pride extruded
Tears running deep like a river

They sat with some Blantons
And toasted each other
We may not be shooters
But we're still Trad Gang Brothers

Here's to Men Like Us - Damn Few!    We'll All Drink To That!

 :biglaugh: so which team are you siding with?
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on March 11, 2019, 06:00:23 AM
My spies got a look at Rogers last practice session:

Looking solid buddy😉

Remember Ray, it really is possible for you to beat me. Don't give up this soon. Do your best not to think of me as you anchor and release..... :archer2: :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 11, 2019, 07:12:20 AM
Psychological warfare only works if you understand your opponent. I’m a no anchor snap shooter so there’s no time for thinking.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on March 11, 2019, 08:55:37 AM
Psychological warfare only works if you understand your opponent. I’m a no anchor snap shooter so there’s no time for thinking.

That actually explains quite a bit.... :biglaugh:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 11, 2019, 09:18:18 AM
I look like Fred Bear when I shoot 😉
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: 1Arrow1Kill on March 11, 2019, 09:34:41 AM
RN,

I have yet to decide who I'm riding with in this 'gentleman's' grudge match.  Ultimately, my decision will be made based upon who proves to be the superior smack talker.  So far it's real close as both of you are pretty impressive word wranglers.  Rays photo of Roger's 'solid' practice session was great!  However, Roger flinging so many different kinds of arrows and never missing the target at 75 yards is pretty impressive too!

During my prison career we called this back-and-forth smack talking 'Playing the Dozens'.  Sometimes clean, oftentimes mean!  I do miss me some good 'Dozens' so this post is real refreshing for me.   (Roy from Pa and I had some fun-spirited PMs recently about his sissy TOYota and my macho JEEP)

Huh?, wondering if the smack talking will continue while you two mud-slingers square off as arrow-flingers?  I think it quite apropos for the dirty deluge to continue throughout the grudge match to see which nimrod performs best under pressure.  Should be a real spirited match by the time August rolls around . . .
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: 1Arrow1Kill on March 11, 2019, 09:38:23 AM
Hey Ray . . . I haven't seen your shooting form, but Fred Bear passed in 1988!  Sorry . . . about your form I mean . . .
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 11, 2019, 10:48:36 AM
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yep, Roger handles pressure well.😬
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on March 11, 2019, 11:06:28 AM
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Calm down Ray,it's going to be ok. I'm always a gentleman after a big win.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 11, 2019, 12:12:07 PM
Roger, this is an archery contest, not a beauty contest. 
p.s.  that’s a scruffy looking beard, does that mess with your shooting sometimes??  😆
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on March 11, 2019, 01:42:09 PM
Roger, this is an archery contest, not a beauty contest. 
p.s.  that’s a scruffy looking beard, does that mess with your shooting sometimes??  😆

When my release is clean, it rips out chunks of beard like cheap velcro.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 18, 2019, 08:14:41 PM
I can feel Roger’s quiver from 200 miles away when I inserted these babies in my quiver tonight. Paul Jalon of Elite Arrows makes these for Ron LaClair and in my humble (except when talking smack about Roger) opinion there’s no finer arrowsmith.  These gems spin like an aluminum arrow.



These will actually be 570 grains with my 185 grain Grizzly broadheads.  About 12 grains per pound from my Lil Favorite Super Shrew.

Looking forward to bagging a turkey in a month and an Irishman in sbout four months.
  🦃🦃
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Roger Norris on March 18, 2019, 08:22:55 PM
Paul builds a great arrow. It won't be enough...

Draw...think of me....sloppy release....frustration...
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on March 18, 2019, 08:52:02 PM
Even your writing is quivering and shaking. 
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: STICKBENDER98 on June 27, 2019, 05:42:51 PM
Bringing this back up top, it's been pretty quiet lately.  Must be some top secret planning, and practicing going on!!!  Only a few more weeks until the dust will clear and we see who is the first runner up, the only winner will be the kids at St Jude with all the donations you all get.  Looking forward to being a witness to the greatness!!!    :goldtooth: :campfire: :thumbsup:


Jason
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on June 27, 2019, 08:09:23 PM
Roger has a new quiver to show off and it’s not the kind that holds arrows.  😆😆😆
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Burly on June 28, 2019, 07:11:30 PM
That's a good one Ray  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on August 03, 2019, 06:06:07 AM
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Well, the great match is imminent.  From a competition standpoint there’s Chef Greg Nicolaou’s pepper shooters and my cherry pie on the line.  There will be contributions to St. Jude’s Children Hospital in the name of Shrewhaven Shootoff.  We will ‘Charlie Lamb’ style reveal the story and results, so those wishing to contribute or ‘wager’ on team Lyon or team Norris, we’d encourage you to do so.
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on August 03, 2019, 06:33:10 AM
Ignore the label on the jar. These are homemade pepper shooters and they’re like candy to a kindergartener. 

Of course this little pie is hand made with butter crust and tart cherries picked and pitted by yours truly from my family’s 6 generations cherry farm.  I’m biased of course, but my grandfather always said ‘if you’re going to grow fruit, grow the best damn fruit in the land’
Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on August 03, 2019, 06:37:19 AM
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Title: Re: The Great ShrewHaven Regular St Jude Grudge Match
Post by: Ray Lyon on August 03, 2019, 08:23:02 PM
Moving this to new thread