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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Tim on April 10, 2008, 10:08:00 AM
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I've had several folks ask about stippling a riser and how it's done. I've always been hesitant to stipple someones elses riser just because once it's done...it's done. I'm also concerned about voiding someone's warranty. Stippling your own riser is not very hard to do and I thought I'd share "my methods" so that some of you can give a try yourself.
My good friend and I got the idea of stippling while at a shoot several years ago. We saw a gentleman shooting a Thunderhorn and loved both the look and feel of Duane's stippled grip. At that point my buddy gave it a try and I soon followed. We've done several makes of recurves and longbows and I must caution you on bows that have a considerable amount of phenolic, it's tough on dremmel tools!
It's just a coincidence that the bow shown is a Thunderhorn that I bought and stippled myself. Duane's workmanship on his bows and leathers is incredible. I just don't have any other photos available of bows I've done.
HERE'S HOW I DO IT:
To be honest it’s very easy to do and any small screw ups can be blended rather easy. I first set the outter edge of the area to be stippled with a pencil. I than go back and cover the entire penciled edge with masking tape which I will stipple up to. I use a whole bunch of little ripped off pieces of tape so that I can go around edges easier. You can be as fancy as you'd like. If your riser has a heavy accent stripe down the middle you may want to leave that and stipple up and down each side. This gives the riser a real nice look.
That is the prep work on the riser.
You will need a dremmel tool with a small bit and a nice magnifier of some type, either glasses or the head mount system work fine. A nice shop vacuum will also be helpful. All can be purchased a Lowe's or Home Depot.
I take the riser and lay it on a padded bar stool under very good lighting. I hang the dremmel tool above the stool so the cords don’t get in the way. I rig the vacuum hose right next to the riser so it continually draws all the dust and keeps the riser free of cuttings. That’s my setup.
To get started you can either use a checkering tool to set the outline or very carefully set the edge using the dremmel tool. I do just the edge first and move very slowly you can not afford to screw up on the edge. I usually take a break after completing the edge. The edge dots should just touch each other.
Now to the meat of the job. Pick a side and start stippling over the entire area within the tape. I run the dremmel tool at about 75% speed. Too slow it will grab and too fast will leave you with a deep hole. Some other folks that stipple like to keep each dot separate, I prefer to run the dots together basically removing all the finish and stippling the entire riser. When complete you will have little shiny spots throughout the riser, go back and lightly touch with the dremmel tool.
To complete I run a piece of steel wool over the completed area, making sure that no material from the steel wool is left on the riser. I remove the tape and make sure that there are no pencil marks left, if so erase them. I than take Tru Oil and a soft tooth brush, put a dab of tru oil on the riser with my finger and lightly brush in, do this on the entire stippled area and let dry. I usually apply two coats.
Good Luck!
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Very, Very Nice! I hate a grip that has any tendency to 'slide', even a tiny amount. I like a grip that's secure, even when my hand (or the grip) is wet. This should do that very well.
Ed
TGMM Family of the Bow
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Nice! Do you use a regular drill bit or one of the Dremel Tool Engraving Bits? I just may muster up the courage to do one myself. Thanks.
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wow that's kool
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Excellent job Tim!!!
Well stated on the how-to! Easy to follow
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Looks real good!
I'm guessing you use a small ball end grinder bit like a dental bit?
Maybe you could show a picture of your bit?
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Dave....your correct, I use the small ball end grinder that comes with most dremmel kits. The larger one is just a little too much. Hope that helps Troy.
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Very cool!
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Another note....I have found that stippling a grip or adding a rubber slide on grip does change the way a bow reacts in hand. I had a longbow that never clipped my arm with the string, however when I tried a rubber grip I got arm slap and when I stippled the grip I got some arm slap. This may not be a problem with most folks but I just wanted to bring it to your attention.
The stippling does have a great feel especially with gloves. Although I don't feel it's as "purty" as checkering or one of Bob Morrison's cool pinecones it does work extremely well.
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Thanks Tim!
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Mods,
can we move this somewhere in the how tos or build a longs? This would be a good reference.
Mike
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Heck yeah,when it runs it's course...we'll move it to the how-to's.....
Tim, Thanx so much bud....I may try one this week!
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Hi Tim,
Don't want to sell that Thunderhorn back to me do you?...LOL
I hope this finds You and yours all doing well.
Happy hunting,
Jason
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You can also "hand stipple" grips, using a nail, with its tip ground to a diamond, or triangular shape. This nail is then applied to the wood with light hammer strikes. You can stipple from very light, to extremely deep.
Some of the gunsmithing books show this technique of finishing the grip areas of gunstocks.
A hand veining tool for checkering gunstocks will do the outlines of the "panels" quite quickly. Just remember to sharpen it, or your 'v' gouge well, before starting work.
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Hey Jason....good to hear from you! I completely refinished your bow and stippled the grip. It turned out beautiful and looks brand new! I ended up selling it to a friend a short time ago, I just needed the takedown option. I recently picked up a beautiful Shawnee Dakota so I've got the td and longbow option.
You should post a few photos of your bows on here, I'm sure some of the folks would love to see your bows!
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I'd have a heart attack doing that.
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Tim You got a pic of the drill bit you acutally use on the dremmel tool?
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Here's a photo of the dremmel bit that I use. The head is no larger than a copper BB.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/Wyoming1/107_lg.jpg)
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Thanks Tim, been contemplating taking this plunge on one I have now.
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Very cool Tim,,,I am going to have to try this on an older bow.
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WOW!! Looks Great!! Food For Thought!! Good Job Tim!! :clapper: :clapper:
Chris, I was Just thinking the Same Thing!! :goldtooth:
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Buy a chunk of hardwood doweling (oak, maple) and practice on the dowel.
Ifn you mess up on the dowel, you won't cry a lot, unlike if you mess up on a cherished bow! :knothead:
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Thought I'd run this to the top for anyone looking for a nice winter project....
Good stuff Tim!
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I'm loving that! Awsome idea. Now, if I can just get the courage!!
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Thanks for the how to!
I'm starting to build selfbows in January, but will have to practice a bit before applying this.
Start slow, i guess :D
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I've seen Tim's work. It is beautiful. I should've had him do mine when he was in a generous mood and willing to try other's bows! :)
Now, Tim...I never realized you use a dremel. I've had some, ..well, lets call them "interesting" experiences with my dremel.
QUESTION: I wonder if you ever tried a center punch or the like to "peen" the stipple in one at a time vs. the dremel or did you start with the dremel?
I just think I'd have so much more confidence lining up a peen and then tapping it with a small brass hammer than letting my cluster-putz hands get near a bow with a bloody dremel running 3/4 speed! :knothead: :eek:
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Awesome how-to, Tim! And Guru, thanks for running it back to the top (I missed it the first time).
Looks like fun, now's the hard part...deciding which bow to 'experiment' on. Sure would look nice on my Widow. (Gulp...) :pray:
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Tim took pity on me a couple of times in the past, and stippled a couple of risers I had, looked great and felt even better.
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Very nice tip! Thank You.
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TTT
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Congrats,very good how to.This is one of the reason I love this site so much you ask and someone will tell you.Thanks Tim.
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I just pulled off the original rest to try a raised rest on my Schafer. Glad it came checkered So I do not need to try this on it.
Thanks for the how to.
Tim
DEATHMASTER
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Suprised I just saw this for the first time. Very cool Tim! I may have to give that a try. I've always liked the looks of the stippled grip.
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Yeah Tim, I like that bro. Thats very tempting to try. Nice job showing us this.
Happy new year Brother.
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I t looks real good.
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Wow...that looks fantastic! I'll try it on an old "beater" first! Thanks!