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Title: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on November 17, 2019, 03:34:09 PM
Has anybody had a slide on or strap on bow quiver cause the string to hit your wrist? It seems like it should if anything cause the bow string to swing away from your arm but lately if I put my bow quiver on it causes string slap. It hasn't always done that. It's very strange. I made sure it was well up on the fades and everything. Anybody else run into this?
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: Petrichor on November 17, 2019, 04:58:27 PM
Never heard of this happening. Would live to hear your findings when you figure out the issue.
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on November 17, 2019, 05:00:58 PM
Same here it's very strange. I take the quiver off and the string doesn't touch my arm
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: Petrichor on November 17, 2019, 05:02:12 PM
What type of quiver? What kind of mount?
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: Orion on November 17, 2019, 05:07:56 PM
How do you grip the bow? If very lightly, the weight of the arrows in the quiver could turn the string inward at the conclusion of the shot.
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on November 17, 2019, 05:12:10 PM
This has happened with a selway side on and currently with an efa strap on. Yes I grip very lightly. The only finger catching my bow is my index. The weight of the bow sits on the pad of my thumb with my knuckles at a 45 degree angle to the bow
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on November 17, 2019, 10:07:59 PM
I figured out why this started happening again recently! It's because I removed my string silencers. I guess without the dampening effect of the silencers, the string is able to whip forward enough to catch my arm. Why this happens easier with a quiver on I don't know..
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: Bisch on November 18, 2019, 07:52:05 AM
I use a Gteat Northern Quick Detach quiver, and when I get in a blind, treestand, or tripod, I take it off the bow.

Bisch


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Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: McDave on November 18, 2019, 09:02:56 AM
I also have a loose grip and quit using a bow quiver for the reasons stated.  I find that the Safari Tuff quiver is much more versatile than the bow quiver, and I would continue to use it even if I found a bow quiver that didn't throw my bow out of balance.
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: Yooper-traveler on November 18, 2019, 09:52:30 AM
I figured out why this started happening again recently! It's because I removed my string silencers. I guess without the dampening effect of the silencers, the string is able to whip forward enough to catch my arm. Why this happens easier with a quiver on I don't know..

Lee have someone video you at slow speed with a phone with/without quiver silencers etc.  It may provide some insight. 
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: Dave Bulla on November 18, 2019, 01:56:20 PM
I didn't read all the comments but had a thought...

When I have a bow with a bow quiver on it, it tends to feel a bit lopsided.  not in a bad way, but certainly different than one without.  Because I'm right handed and the quiver is mounted to the right side of the bow and because I lean the bow to the right to shoot, it seems the bow pulls a bit counterclockwise in my hand as I'm holding it preparing to draw.  The natural tendency seems to be to change my grip slightly.  I tend to move my thumb side of my hand slightly to the right to compensate for the weight pulling that direction.  I think that it results in slightly torquing the bow clockwise.  This may be what causes string slap because that slight torque pulls the string to the left upon release.  I was just noticing I was getting string slap a couple days ago but had not attempted to figure out why until I saw this post.
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: Terry Green on November 19, 2019, 07:10:38 AM
I've used bow Quivers of all sorts all my life and that has never happened with me.

Just for kicks try a few shots with your fingers wrapped around your grip and see what happens. 
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: Kingstaken on November 19, 2019, 09:12:39 AM
2x what Mike said. The bow torques down towards the ground forcing the string move into your wrist area. I never shoot with a bow quiver as it only happens if I hold the bow too loosely so as terry said try alil firmer grip. Doesn't have to be held tight.
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: BigJim on November 20, 2019, 09:39:27 PM
The reason that arrows seem to tune stiffer when having a bow mounted quiver is do to the extra weight of the bow.
As you release, there is a tendency for the bow arm to move due to the release of pressure. The heavier the bow, the more effort it takes to get the bow started and less likely to affect the arrow before it is clear of the bow.

The heavier the bow, the less the quiver will affect the above.

I've gotten so used to shooting with a quiver on that I wouldn't consider shooting the other way. I think that for most that want to shoot with a bow quiver, all they need to do is keep shooting and not go back and forth.

It only takes 1 arrow for something new to become "IT" good or bad. It's hard to say which arrow will be that 1. Could be a day for some, a week for others… or much longer... but it will happen if you want it to. Stay the course or change your mind and go without it.
BigJim
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: dnovo on November 21, 2019, 10:52:21 AM
I don’t have any issues with a bow quiver on my longbows. If anything I have lees string slap. I haven’t worn an arm guard in years. I can shoot with or without the quiver and not have any problems. 20 years ago when I first put a quiver on my longbow I noticed a different point of impact but now I don’t.
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: julienkoz on November 03, 2024, 04:28:17 PM
OK, I googled this because I am having the same issue. The only thing I have changed is I switched from a great northern quiver to a Selway slide on and suddenly my arm is being slapped like a redheaded stepchild. I switched because I hate the gripper on a great Northern. My arrows are constantly falling out, and I appreciate the solidity of the selway when going thru brush. But I will have to go back if I cannot figure out how to shoot with the slide on. I never removed string silencers or anything. Anybody else with this issue figured it out? I am shooting a Toelke Pika.
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: stevem on November 03, 2024, 05:59:12 PM
Yes, in a minor way.  Thought it only happened to me.
Title: Re: Bow quiver causing string slap
Post by: Honest Jon on November 03, 2024, 10:27:18 PM
How many arrows in your quiver Lee? A bunch of arrows hanging on the “off side” could unbalance the bow slightly and also affect limb movement. I use a strap on 2-arrow quiver so on my first shot there’s only one arrow in the quiver.
Jon