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I've been rather silent for some time...
By way of catch up/ refresher:
Diagnosed in fall of 2018 with prostate cancer...told whatever I'd do would get me 15 years...
So not wanting to deal with surgery living alone, I opted for radiation.
I had 39 treatments from January to mid March... PSA was down at 30 days after end of treatments, then at 3 months it had climbed a bit to 3.72, then at 6 mos it hit 9.7!!! Whoa!
I asked for the last january scans to be redone to see whats up... got a PET done on DEC 11th but never heard a word... then had a bone scan done Jan 6th and today, I called and raised some dust and got a call mid day telling me both saw cancer in the spine at T-3!!
Not what I wanted to hear...
But then I am to see the URO doc on Friday AM, but so far the URO doc and Radiation/oncologist have been totally wrong so I'm not filled with a lot of optimism, but, God is in charge and will remain so..
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Doc,
You are on my Prayer list daily my friend. I sure pray those Dr's are wrong and God heals you from All traces of cancer throughout your body...
You sure have had a rocky climb with the PT numbers and now this .
God please heal Doc I do ask in Jesus name... :pray:
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Thanks, guys! Much appreciated and as the saying goes, Whatever will be, will be. :saywhat:
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Doc, you have been, are, and shall remain on my daily prayer list. :pray: :pray:
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Doc, you have been, are, and shall remain on my daily prayer list. :pray: :pray:
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Thanks, Gents...the prayers are welcomed...
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added to the daily list prayer from here :pray: :pray: :pray:
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Hang in there David! There's a whole bunch of us pulling for you!
God bless,
Rodd
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That's what the medical community hearabouts makes one learn: Hanging-- as in, "They LET You hanging! " :) :laughing:
Whatever will be, will be....
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Doc you have been so faithful thru all of this. I am sorry to hear this and the run around you are getting. Still Praying for you daily.
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Praying each and every day for you Doc.
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Philip, Keith,
Thank you so much for your prayers...it will be whatever God Wills it to be and I'll just go along
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Doc, we're sending prayer to you. Stay strong.
Murray
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Dave, sorry to hear...hang in there. You are correct, the Great Physician has the final say in all our diagnoses.
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Thanks for the latest encouragement...
As of Friday, I met with the Urologist... this past Monday I called his office and left message as is the Norm with his nursing staff, that given my PET scan was Dec 11th I was seriously ticked not to have any results in over 33 days and that the bone scan promised results too by the week prior...Nada...
Got a call back that same day from a male nurse who told me that the cancer had 'spread' to T-3 in my spine... ok...that controls lungs and chest muscles... I was told that my Friday Appt (17th) I'd learn more...
Sure did...
I learned the mass is not in T-3 but in T-7 not above shoulder blades but below...
I was told to start taking 2 magic pills and the Doc's expectation is the PSA will start to DROP...then hit zero down the road...(yea, right)... Then when the PSA starts showing good changes they'll re-do the scans to confirm...
I'm not buying Green Bananas! But Whatever God planned is already in process... I will at least take the pills... ONLY side effect they "claim" with the pills is sore breast area and possibly nipples..that'll be different!
Whahoo!
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(Freddie Joe) you hang in there my friend and we will keep praying God heals this ... :pray:
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(Freddie Joe) you hang in there my friend and we will keep praying God heals this ... :pray:
My Dad's older Brother developed bone cancer...and he told me he'd be healed back in my early 20's... I asked him "what if he doesn't"
He just smiled, put his arm around my shoulder and pulled me closer and leaned over and said quietly, "Dave, even DEATH is God's perfect healing..."
It took me a long time (and a lot of aches and pains) to comprehend what he meant by that...and it's only in more recent years I can repeat it without bawling like a baby...
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Doc,
My wife just told me this story she read and I believe it to be “True” and it is about a girl who had or has terminal cancer if I’m not mistaken but here it goes.
The young lady requested a “fork” be placed in her hands when she dies and it be put in her casket and placed in her hands so All will see it and ask “Why” does she have a fork in her hand?
She told this to the funeral director and he was a bit surprised and did ask as to “Why” did she want the fork placed in her hand and she requested he tell the story as to what it meant during her funeral.
When she was a little girl her Grandmother would tell her after dinner to hold on to her fork and she did because the best part (being desert )was about to
happen and she was always excited and happy.
So she requested the fork be placed in her hand when she died because the best part is about to happen.
Doc Keep the Faith Brother :thumbsup:
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Doc,
My wife just told me this story she read and I believe it to be “True” and it is about a girl who had or has terminal cancer if I’m not mistaken but here it goes.
The young lady requested a “fork” be placed in her hands when she dies and it be put in her casket and placed in her hands so All will see it and ask “Why” does she have a fork in her hand?
She told this to the funeral director and he was a bit surprised and did ask as to “Why” did she want the fork placed in her hand and she requested he tell the story as to what it meant during her funeral.
When she was a little girl her Grandmother would tell her after dinner to hold on to her fork and she did because the best part (being desert )was about to
happen and she was always excited and happy.
So she requested the fork be placed in her hand when she died because the best part is about to happen.
Doc Keep the Faith Brother :thumbsup:
That's a good one. I like it! Since I'll be toasted, I can't steal that story, but I still like it and it made me smile...
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Keeping you in my prayers. Stay vigilant in your faith, and NEVER, EVER give up hope.
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They did another PSA last Friday and while the one at 6 mos in Aug hit 9.5 or so this one is in the high 20's...so it's still climbing...
Only god got this...
I do take 2 meds once each day and they THINK They'll kick it back... God's got this or not....NOT Doctors...
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Doc? Whatta you know? Haven’t heard from you for awhile.
Don’t think “que sera, sera” is enough. God expects us to value His gift enough to fight for it.
Onward, and all that stuff!
I cannot call myself Christian, but this forum should include all. Through the years, you have done so much to give hope and strength to so many. Those lives made better are YOUR strength, and I hope you will use that now. How can you make things better if you go?
Be aggressive with your medicos, you should see results of your tests in a timely manner. They are hard to get from labs, but they send them to your primary care doctor. Do your best. That is what your Creator expects. When you are needed back Home, you’ll get there honestly.
But hang around here a little, eh?
Killdeer
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Good words, killy
I've seen far too many invest everything chasing hope...
There are treatments I won't embrace (YET) that mean being dog sick--- cause I live alone where I have few friends. Once one retires and moves to another area, things "Change"...
I'm not having a grand ole time of it and walking with a can for the past 3 months unable to do most things I enjoy has dampened some of my verve...
Arty Ritis is kicking my butt, too many other things to mention, so when it's time, it's time... God chooses that time, not medicine nor mere mortals...I have 2 li'l pills I take daily that are to kill the "escaped" cancer cells...yea, we'll see.
Whatever will be, will be, and it's not up to me!
I fight what I can like doing daily stretching on the floor in hopes the left hip leg will get better, but with the big C, it's not in my hands...
Thank you so much for the kind words, Kathy! I recall our fun times with great relish... :):)
Did apple pie survive the Tornado out his home area? Pretty high death toll out there around Nashville... prayers for them all! :pray:
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Good to see another Prayer Warrior here Killy lifting Doc up .
He is a tough old bird and I know he enjoys your company and friendship.
Doc as always I have you on my prayer list as you well know brother.
Spring is showing up and I'm praying it gives you a nudge to get out and walk your property and maybe plant that garden even If you can't have or don't want anything . I'm sure you might have a few members of your Church who can benefit from it but it might be good to just get out and get some fresh air . I know you have allergy's but seems things are blooming early around these parts. We already have some trees with full blooms already and the smell of Chicken manure in about every field ready to be tilled in.
I don't care for March due to those allergy's and dried manure particles drifting across the fields into my lungs but it's part of life here.
Anyway once all those winds die down and flowers start to bloom and bee's buzzing then things seem to come to life once more.
Maybe take a ride around some back roads and watch some wildlife .
Been meaning to ask you if you have been shooting your Bigfoot bow any?
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The hip pain and low back issues have kept me from shooting bows--- period...
Allergies are a conundrum for us all who have them...spring and fall are my times but with all the wet we've had, I've been battling other type allergies...
I always appreciate being remembered in prayer or otherwise... :):)
You have mail Keith, that addresses some of your points in your post...
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Doc:
Just caught up with this. Know that I am thinking of you. Keep fighting.
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Thanks, Bruce, Keith and Killy Dear --- always appreciated :notworthy:
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Doc;
Keep your chin up and guardian angel close at hand. I'll be praying for you and for God's will. I'll check back ever day or so to see how you are doing. God's speed, my friend.
Michael
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Thanks, Folks for the concern!
I've not posted new news of late cause it's "hurry up and wait" time... I see the Radiology oncologist early next month, then the Urologist middle of next month... been told they'll recheck the PSA after 6 mos on the "pills" and redo scans at 9 mos...so not much to report.
More concerned at this point with using a cane to get around and all the danged xrays showed was arthritis...yea, no surprise there...
I figure, albeit, in contest to Killdeer's thoughts, that it's not of my doing what transpires, but that God either has this or it's check out time... alas, my Executor reminds me to keep an open mind on some form of treatment as cancer can be a painful buggar at the end...
So, we will see what we will see... I don't want to clog the airwaves with drivel, so till I know something worthwhile, I'll say thanks for the thoughts and prayers to all, but I'm not giving up yet, just resolving to accept what is!
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Riddled with arthritis, myself. In PT for shoulder stuff, but the shad are running and the birds are singing SPRING! ApplePie and family got through unscathed, but his friend’s house lost a roof. Better than a life, but not good anyway.
Stock market has robbed me of six years’ growth, but I am still here and kicking.
I still say do not go gently.. There is still work for you here.
But there is no arguing with you, you Tennessee mule!
Killdeer
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TN mule? Show me... oops, that is one state over in MO...:)
I won't go easy, but I guess it all boils down to the idea that I'm working my mind around the reality that whatever will be will be...
When it comes to a toss up tween God and Docs, i'll go with the former as Doc's just got a couple letters behind their names and hell I got a few myself, but they dont mean much...just a couple letters out a 26 letter alphabet, right? :laughing:
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ApplePie and family got through unscathed, but his friend’s house lost a roof. Better than a life, but not good anyway.
Glad Apple made it ok...sorry for his friend, but material stuff can be replaced... you're so right...life cannot be so easily...
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Doc, been down with the flu for a few weeks (not CV...type "B") so been off the radar some. But know that the prayer machine is still ON and working for you. You are in my thoughts and prayers daily.
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Cap'n, Glad to read you're back on the mend some....
And, thanks for the continued prayers! Much appreciated
As we get older the flu ain't nuttin to mess with, either... This new one will either run it's course or... be like the great flood and wipe Earth clean...Read once that the "meek shan't inherit the earth but a virus will" I know what "meek" meant in the verse but It still has some merit...
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I miss the days when "PSA" meant a Public Service Announcement.
Been getting mine checked every 6 months and, unlike the stock market, they go up...
Hang in there Doc, you'll be in my thoughts and prayers.
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I miss the days when "PSA" meant a Public Service Announcement.
Been getting mine checked every 6 months and, unlike the stock market, they go up...
Hang in there Doc, you'll be in my thoughts and prayers.
Paul, on Medicare I only got mine checked (PSA) ever year and by the time it hit 5.5 they sent me to a urologist but it took 30 days to get there (here) and by then it had gone from 5.5 to 7.2..so they did a biopsy and found it was an "8" on a Gleason Scale so it was an aggressive form...from what they tell me (??) that is a 10 point scale so it was pretty aggressive, but it took from late OCT to Mid January to get Radiation started...by then they NOW suggest some cells had escaped the prostate so the PSA kept going up after initially going down... now it's near 30 or was last check and they think it's the "escaped ones" that are still driving the PSA...Nothing more till mid April for checks...
I take two li'l ole pills daily and that is to quell it all (yea, right)
Good luck and keep on top of it... i shared my #s just for your comparison...doesn't seem to be a lot of agreement among docs in varied parts of the country...
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Thanks Doc, I've had the "poke and prod " and then a ride in the MRI. We'll see how it goes...
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Your in my Prayers Doc.
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Thank you all!
Happy Easter to one and all!!!
The tiny pills I take are apparently to kill off my Testosterone which is reputed to feed this prostate cancer... they warned it can make a guy's nipples tender and it is! I didn't know it was a Hormone killer...alas, Either God's Got this or I'm dead anyway, so I guess I'll keep taking them but other stuff is hurting so I'm just unsure what's what... Alas, Im not going to many docs will all this "stuff" going on!
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Doc I was to go in at the first of April for another CT Scan and blood work and to get my 6 month Lupron shot. The Lupron shot does the same thing your little pills do. I cancelled my appointments because I would have to do the CT Scan at one hospital and my blood work and shot and follow up with the oncologist was at another Hospital. I figured with all that was going on with the Virus that that would be like playing Russian Roulette.
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I hear you on the choices and reasons...
There is sooo much going on about all this "stuff" that its hard to decode what is true and real...
I can understand your hesitancy...I didn't know lupron was hormone therapy...
I wish you well with waiting...
My only thought would be NONE of us gets outa here alive so when God wants me He knows how to find me!
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A Happy Easter to you Doc, and everyone else as well.
Thoughts and prayers to those getting treated and for those delaying treatments.
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Hi Doc:
As my name states, it's been a while. Used to be here as Tacobobbo a couple years ago. But, I never got the code for change and got locked out and couldn't get back on. Finally, figured out to use my wifes email address. Duh!
So, I wanna give you a bit of encouragement if I can. About 6 years ago all the injuries in my back finally forced me to retire early ( and not medically). Figured maybe a couple years of recupe would allow me to go back to work.
6 months after retiring I had a massive heart attack. Killed 1/3 - 1/2 my heart, so no returning to work.
Feb 2018 had a colonoscopy. They found some polyps and were able to remove a couple, but one was growing INTO the colon wall. Next morning, I started bleeding horribly. Lost almost TWO qts of blood before making it to hospital.Of course it was Super Bowl weekend. :biglaugh: Anyway, they did a biopsy on the polyp they couldn't remove and found it to be cancerous and that surgery would be required. Figured they'd go back in with the scope remove the polyp and sew me up.
NOPE! Had to remove part of my colon and all the lymph nodes attached. Well, while I was recuping in the hospital, my surgeon called me and said cancer was in the lymp nodes too, and I was already stage 3 and had to start chemo in about 3 weeks. Well, crap. So, started chemo and after about 3 or 4 weeks, I developed severe blood clots where the surgery was and one of them had migrated to my aorta, so they put me on blood thinners to break up the clots. After getting home, I noticed my neuropothy starting in my hands and feet. Got so bad I couldn't walk or hold anything in my hands and they hurt horribly. Also had other issues, but not as severe.
Well, the reason I'm writing is to say hang in there. DON'T get discouraged. God is in control. And I believe there are two major ( many minor) reasons why people go thru these times.
1): To TEST your faith.
2): To INCREASE your faith.
Dude, I know you HAVE been and I'm encouraging you to continue keep your eyes on the Lord. HE doesn't put us thru anything we can't handle and overcome. And you ARE an encouragement to others so keep it up. The Lord loves you and will NEVER leave or forsake you.
Bob
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I know Bob that there is NOTHING I can do to ever deserve his attention, I just hope I can live up to his standards, which I sometimes question...
You have a PM reviewing some of what you shared... I appreciate your comments and encouragement...
Keep the Son in your eyes!
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Praying for you to find peace and healing in this trial, my brother.
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Praying for you to find peace and healing in this trial, my brother.
Thank you, Bruce...
I like to leave new posts up a day before I cover them with my drivel.
Saw Urologist Friday and he said Id be taking these pills the rest of my life... :) He did not give me any explanation as to what to expect other then he "bets" my psa will start dropping now on the meds... I'll find out this coming weeks...
As Goingoldschool on TG says he saw on a barn, NO God, NO peace, know God, Know peace
Whatever will be will be! :goldtooth: