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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Buckeye1977 on March 05, 2020, 09:02:15 AM
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When I started shooting traditional I always shot with a Damascus glove and was very comfortable with it. After a few years I started to mess around with a few tabs and decided I liked them a lot better and used one for years. Recently I've found that I have been getting more consistent and cleaner arrow flight since switching back to a glove. I have only shot the Damascus gloves and am considering a different style but have never tried any. Wondering what everyone else is using these days and why you like them over different styles or brands?
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I've been shooting a Bearpaw Bodnik speed glove the last few years. It has held up well, provides plenty of protection even with stiffer draw weights and was reasonably priced. That said I'm trying to transition to a tab. Have to try as most folks say it gives a more consistent release.
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I've bought a ton of different gloves,thinking this will be the one that makes me shoot good. I've done the same things with bows,go figure.
I've always just come back to the basic leather Neet or the calf hair Neet. The regular leather one will groove bad though.
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Been shooting a Barbee tab for target, but use just a light nylon camo glove to hunt.
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American Leathers slick shot.....never will I shoot anything different.
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Have owned seven different gloves over the years. Had always shot both more consistent and accurate with a tab until I tried the American Leathers Big Shot ten years ago. A personal great fit.
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American Leathers for the last 10 years or so. I have three, the kangaroo, big shot, and the Crossover. I like them all. I try messing around with tabs every once in awhile but so far always go back to American leather gloves.
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American Leathers Crossover
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Was looking at the American leather gloves and not much of a description of each glove on their site so what are the differences?
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I'll second the Bearpaw speed glove. It's reasonably priced and works well.
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Last 5+ years, American Leather Kangaroo Crossover glove. It has the inserts rather than that Velcro stuff on the finger tips. I like it better than their regular Buffalo or Elk glove. Hasn’t taken a groove, hasn’t stretched in our high heat. I shoot from 55# to 45# bows. I put some of that Mink oil stuff on it once in awhile.
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The big shot has nylon stitched on the outside of the fingers,so the string comes in contact with nylon, crossover has nylon inside of glove so leather contacts the string.
Kangaroo glove I think has a little extra padding in the fingers, but is very thin and tough. I think I get the best release with the kangaroo.
I could take photos of the three and email or text them to you. If you want them pm me.
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I only shot with a tab and up until two years ago it was the Black widow 3 under tab it wore our and now I use a Yost Predator tab I really like them.
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I used the E.W. Bateman glove with the nylon inserts for around 30 years. I started looking for an alternative glove because even thought the E.W. Bateman glove was nice it was also expensive at $77.00 Five years ago I tried a couple different tabs but I just couldn't get use to them. So now I been using the BearPaw Classic glove and it's been working out good.
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Shooting gloves in Texas heat don't last long. Sweat chews them up. So cost is a big factor.
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Another one of those personal preferences. I've shot a Damascus a lot over the last 10 years or so, last few years I prefer the Kangaroo skin glove from Big Jim's. Still soft and supple, great feel/control of the string, but a tad more substance to it than the Damascus (which vary vendor to vendor... they're mighty thin these days). I still have both, but the kangaroo is my go to.
Shot an American Leathers Full Shot for a couple years... best quality, workmanship, fit and finish, and customer service around. I just couldn't quite get used to the thicker fingertips. Very tempted to try their Kangaroo glove though.
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Here's a couple of pics. In both the kangaroo is on the right. You can see that the Regular has nylon on the outside of the tip while the Kangaroo has a small,thin piece of nylon between the outside and inside liner.
The regular BigShot is softer and very comfortable. The kangaroo is a little stiffer (especially when new) and also very comfortable.
Since first trying the Kangaroo at John's suggestion I've been hooked. I'll never shoot anything else.
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I've been using a glove made by Byron Furguson for many years now. Double leather on the finger tips. Made well and holds up very well.
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Here's a couple of pics. In both the kangaroo is on the right. You can see that the Regular has nylon on the outside of the tip while the Kangaroo has a small,thin piece of nylon between the outside and inside liner.
The regular BigShot is softer and very comfortable. The kangaroo is a little stiffer (especially when new) and also very comfortable.
Since first trying the Kangaroo at Ron's suggestion I've been hooked. I'll never shoot anything else.
I cannot see the pics.
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Think the pics preceded the post.
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Can anyone speak to the hot weather characteristics of these gloves. Which would be better for perpetual sweaty weather?
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I have been content to shoot the old Damascus gloves (mine has thin cordovan tips) for quite some time hunting. However, I have been using the old metal plate tabs (cant remember their name) for my target and 3D stuff. I like em. I can switch back and forth easily. I shoot 3 under. I can agree, the tab gives me a better release. Perhaps I should work on that.
I have always wanted to own one of those American Leather gloves but they just seemed too thick for me every time I tried one.
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I shoot a Damascus or Black widow stick tite gloves, I have an American leather also but never could get used to it
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Thanks for the pics Charlie and everyone's input so far. The American leather gloves look really well made and long lasting. Might have to see if I can try one out somewhere to see if I would like it before I spent the money on one.
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Black widow stick tite for me. I also use black widow tabs.
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I've been shooting an American Leathers Big Shot glove on and off for several years and gotta say that it is hard to beat in my opinion. The nylon webbing overlay gives a very clean release and keeps the glove from wearing out. They offer very good protection from even moderately heavy poundage bows and the people at American Leathers are top notch and will help you with sizing.
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I have had problems with leather gloves in the past creating a "squeak" when compressing the nock. I also found them to be somewhat bulky and less sensitive to feel as I'd like. And of course they need extra care if they get wet to remain supple.
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American Leathers Kangaroo crossover glove without the plastic inserts. WOW!!!!!! That Kangaroo leather is in a different league!
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Cody your squeak is in the quality of the leather you need to get some leather treatment to put on your gloves and that won't happen anymore regardless of the maker...... No need to down trod any maker because of a squeak because that is the way leather works and it's a quality of a great saddle but I'm sure you know nothing about saddles....
Let's blame the squeak on the cheap plastic shall we ?
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I've stopped using leather "treatments" on my gloves... or any other piece of leather gear with layers. "Oils" dissolve the contact glues that are commonly used.
I can't tell you how many different shooting gloves I've had in the last 60 years. Any noise coming from the glove against the nock is just the nature of leather. You can use an oil leather treatment to end it or what I've been doing is using talcum powder on my glove. It eliminates any squeak and helps combat perspiration. It may also help with a smooth release.
Both Howard Hill and John Schulz powdered their gloves. For the smooth release but it would also kill the squeak.
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Here is a Kangaroo crossover glove without the plastic inserts. John custom made this a couple weeks ago. He said he used the thicker Kangaroo also. It's still pretty thin although it protects the fingers better than the thicker buffalo glove I also have. It's a stronger leather. It's pretty incredible.
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Charlie is right. I have always used talc on my leather glove or tabs. I guess its an old guy thing, right Charlie... LOL
Heck, several company's sold talc dispensers that field and indoor folks hung on their quiver belts. They would give them a "tap" between arrows when and if they thought they needed it.
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I actually used the 3D Dead Down Wind powder for boots on mine. Get some scent elimination and powder affect as well
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I actually used the 3D Dead Down Wind powder for boots on mine. Get some scent elimination and powder affect as well
Try some talc. Little to no scent and after 50 years of use I dont think the deer mind a bit of perfume any way. Its cheaper then some name brand, made for hunters product. Can you say "pool cue chalk"
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What about a touch of coconut oil? Rick recommends that for his tabs.
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Thanks for the pics Charlie and everyone's input so far. The American leather gloves look really well made and long lasting. Might have to see if I can try one out somewhere to see if I would like it before I spent the money on one.
Big Jim had a good selection of American Leathers gloves at Cloverdale. That’s where I got myCrossover.
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I use Vaseline just like with my baseball gloves years ago
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What about a touch of coconut oil? Rick recommends that for his tabs.
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Why don't you try it and tell us how that works....
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I just picked up one of Rick's tabs from him today. It's a clean quiet release. Hopefully I can master shooting with one. At least for tournaments.
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But I'll be wearing my speed glove in the stand this evening.
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He recommends rubbing a bit of coconut oil on the surface to preserve and slicken it up. May only work on nylon surfaces.
I'm with you Gary, tabs will take a bit of use to get hunting good. Tournaments will be a great start.
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It definitely took me awhile to get used to shooting a tab when I switched but really worked better for me at the time. Part of it was we used to shoot a lot of 3d in the summer and when it was hot and sweating the glove would get really loose while shooting and the next day it would be stiff after it dried. Didn't have that problem with a tab.
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I like the same kangaroo glove as Slowbowjoe. It's made by Legacy Leathers. Good protection with good feel, even though the leather is comparatively thin. Going on 4 years with this one, even the Velcro on the wrist is in great shape. I clean it once a year with saddle soap, let it dry for a day, and respray with Atsko silicone spray.
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I have switched to using the Bearpaw speed glove and really like it. Its made with buffalo leather and has nylon fingertips. Its very well made and I think will last for many years.
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My favorite has been a glove I bought from Martin archery years ago and still shoot to this day. literaly thousands of shots and still in good shape. Not sure if they still make them or not.
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I used Bearpaw and OMP gloves for quite awhile. Finally found one of my old Hill XLs and with a little talc, my release feels much smoother.
Deno
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I started using tabs in the 90's when I first took up the longbow. Gloves tended to develop a crease, which I didn't care for. The tab has not had this problem as much, so now I replace a tab when I lose it as opposed to when the glove has issues. Actually, I don't think I shot any better or worse, whichever one I used.
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The Bearpaw Black Glove is another good one. :thumbsup:
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My new American Leathers buffalo crossover next to the one with new finger stalls that I just got back from them. Incredible service and VERY reasonable. It’s like new and these are fabulous gloves. Thank you John and Lori for outstanding products and service.
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Yep, American Leathers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm 70 and have likely tried about every glove I came across over the years. There is no doubt in my mind the Bateman is by far the very best, yeah, you get what you pay for, but I'll likely never need another.
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AL all the way!
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just a shoutout to American Leathers. I've had a buffalo crossover (no plastic inserts) for probably 15 years, and it's still in great shape. just got a wild hair and decided to order a new one. didn't really even need it, but realized I don't have a backup glove, so why not?!
one of the best quality trad hunting products I've ever purchased and used, and a company well worth supporting! :clapper:
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Bear paw speed glove and the bearpaw black 70157. Would be the closest to a Damascus glove.
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Bearpaw classic or a palm tab.
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I've always used a Damascus glove. The first one I bought cost $9.95 so that kind of tells you how long I've been using them. During the season and especially at the end of the season I wash it with warm water and Dawn detergent, wring it out and put it back on my hand to reshape it. Then I remove it and let it dry. Once dry I put it back on my hand and give it a liberal amount of Montana Pitch Blend. Once that soaks in I wipe off the excess and she's good to go.
I like the Damascus glove because I can feel the string through the glove, it protects my fingers and it's more comfortable than other gloves I've tried.
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I never could get used to a tab, and believe me when I say I tried ;^))
I didn't read all the responses , so Hope I'm not repeating info......
First I think bow weight has some weight in choices with a good glove. I used The old Grizzly/wolverine leather gloves for years. (No longer made) I really like the leather one Frank posted (Bearpaw classic) but they are hard to find sometimes .
I picked up a Dura glove when they first came out and love the glove design /durability,and slick release, though the price has went up significantly .
Imho the dura glove is best up to about 60# or so (dependent upon archer) , but for a little more protection you can't go wrong with a Bearpaw Bodnic speed glove.
Very simular designs , but the Bearpaw is more durable with less presure/wear on the fingers...Like all Bearpaw products, very well designed & built. :campfire:
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American Leathers Buffalo Crossover, with the plastic inserts for me. Took a while to get used to it, but now I really like it!
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Partial to Bateman cordovan and American Leathers kangaroo