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Title: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: gordonf on April 23, 2008, 11:29:00 AM
This is my first attempt at a laminated R/D bow. The backing is bamboo, with a black walnut core and a yew belly. The yew was cut from a log that Joe Klink kindly gave to me (thank you Joe!). The bow is 64” ntn, 60# @ 27”, 1 ¼” wide to the mid-limbs tapering to ½” at the tips. Handle wrap is dyed elk with kangaroo lacing and the bow is finished with Tru-Oil. I’m not entirely satisfied with the result – I glued in too much deflex and I lost more reflex than I had hoped during tillering. So I ended up with some string follow. But I learned a great deal from this bow and I expect to do better on my next attempt. I hope you enjoy the pictures.

 (http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/walnut_yew/BBWalnutYew_003.jpg)

 (http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/walnut_yew/BBWalnutYew_010.jpg)

 (http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/walnut_yew/BBWalnutYew_011.jpg)

 (http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/walnut_yew/BBWalnutYew_002.jpg)

 (http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/walnut_yew/BBWalnutYew_007.jpg)

 (http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/walnut_yew/BBWalnutYew_006.jpg)

 (http://mysite.verizon.net/res0oeio/walnut_yew/BBWalnutYew_005.jpg)
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: DBerrard on April 23, 2008, 11:34:00 AM
That looks really nice.
Great landscape you have going on there,too. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: straitera on April 23, 2008, 11:46:00 AM
The walnut gives it character plus. Good job.
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: LEOPARD on April 23, 2008, 11:49:00 AM
For a 1st attempt, I think I'd give you an A+!     ;)     Well done! That's a very nice looking bow!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: Indie on April 23, 2008, 12:07:00 PM
It´s a beauty!
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: snag on April 23, 2008, 12:12:00 PM
Outstanding effort and results! I am thinking of attempting my first...I'm am very impressed. It really has graceful lines. Looks like it fits you well!
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: snag on April 23, 2008, 12:14:00 PM
Gordon, this may be a stupid question...but I'll ask it anyway...did you use black walnut because it is so hard and would allow you to get the weight of the bow up to 60#? Seems like a lot of selfbows are in the 50# or less range.
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: gordonf on April 23, 2008, 12:41:00 PM
David,

Black walnut seemed like a good choice for the core wood because it has good elasticity and it is fairly light relative to other hardwoods like osage or various tropical hardwoods. But more importantly, I happen to have a bunch of it in my garage and I need to figure out how to use it.  :D  

You can definitely build selfbows in the 60-70# range and more - I've made several. This particular bow, however, is not a selfbow. I am fairly certain you do not need a core lamination to make a higher poundage laminated bow.
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: ChristopherO on April 23, 2008, 01:29:00 PM
Gordon,
I understand just what you are saying about the deflex overtaking the reflex but it is still a good looking bow.  I just finished my first R/D bow, too, and had the same thing happen to me.  It is a boo backed hickory/hickory for a friend and my goal was to keep a strong reflex to it.  But after tillering it looks just like yours.  My friend is still very happy with it, though, and it should serve him well.  Next time I will not induce any deflex at glue up and allow the tillering process to create it, unless the core is osage or ipe.  
I imagine after you shoot it in you won't be too disappointed with it.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: Jack Skinner on April 23, 2008, 01:29:00 PM
Gordonf,

I like the looks of the bow. I found this past weekend a draw full of western ceder. I was thinking sinew back selfbow, and my first try at bamboo backed ceder. I hope my first attempt at a composite bow looks as good as yours.

Nice work
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: gordonf on April 23, 2008, 01:45:00 PM
Chris, I have shot the bow a fair amount since completing it and am actually quite happy with the way it shoots. I agree with you about not inducing deflex the next time.

Jack, backing Western Cedar with bamboo would certainly yield a bow that is light in the hand. I would be concerned about the durability of such a combination, however. Thank you for the compliment.
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: mmgrode on April 23, 2008, 02:19:00 PM
Awesome bow Gordon!  You sure are a stickler for the details and it shows in beautiful bows!  Thanks for sharing!  Matt
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: elk ninja on April 23, 2008, 02:21:00 PM
Wow
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: Jack Denbow on April 23, 2008, 02:53:00 PM
Wow that is certainly a beauty. I am a sucker for bows like that. Excellent job.
Jack
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: mjc on April 23, 2008, 03:06:00 PM
Very nice looking bow,I like them to follow the string a little, it makes for a sweet shooting bow.
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: wislnwings on April 23, 2008, 06:14:00 PM
I hope when I decide to make my first laminated wood bow it turns out that good.
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: bentpole on April 23, 2008, 06:32:00 PM
Looks good to me
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: 4runr on April 23, 2008, 06:45:00 PM
Beautiful as always Gordon!!
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: gordonf on April 23, 2008, 10:03:00 PM
Thank you all for all the nice compliments. It is such a pleasure to be amoung folks who appreciate this kind of work. You guys rock!
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: Walt Francis on April 23, 2008, 11:07:00 PM
Gordon, Another good looking bow.
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: tomh on April 23, 2008, 11:26:00 PM
that is a very nice looking bow, great job!
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: SteveD on April 24, 2008, 05:05:00 AM
Beautiful work Gordan.
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: RayMO on April 24, 2008, 07:59:00 AM
Gordon, what a beautiful bow and just outstanding for your first one. How does it feel in the hand to shoot?
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: gordonf on April 24, 2008, 12:55:00 PM
Ray, I should clarify that this isn't really my first bow - I've actually built several. But it is my first attempt at a laminated reflex/deflex design.

The bow seems quite fast and is easy to handle. I think it could easily become a favorite - at least until I build my next one   :D
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: Chris Surtees on April 24, 2008, 01:14:00 PM
Sweet bow Gordon.
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: ONE SHOT on April 24, 2008, 01:33:00 PM
Gordon after looking at the photos, it seems to Me that you might have too much twist in your Flemish string, looks to be a really tight spiral. This can cause erratic arrow flight,and string slaping your forearm, have you noticed any so far? Just curious cause I twisted one that was a little long for the Bow to tight and it took some time before I found out after calling Dean Torges why the Recurve wasn't shooting properly.

I now prefer a slow gradual spiral Twist in all My Bow strings....ONE SHOT...  :)    :)    :D    :D
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: gordonf on April 24, 2008, 02:09:00 PM
Yes, there is too much twist in the string. That is because I was using a tillering string for the pictures. I've since built a proper string for this bow.

You are very observant Gail!
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: Hood on April 24, 2008, 08:08:00 PM
Awesome! I'd love to have a bow like that!
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: Terry Riley on April 24, 2008, 09:47:00 PM
If you enlarge the picture you can read the writing on the bow. It says, to my buddy Terry....Happy hunting!
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: pseman on April 25, 2008, 12:54:00 AM
Great looking bow.
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: gordonf on April 25, 2008, 12:54:00 AM
I would think you already own enough of my crappy bows Terry   :D
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: Terry Riley on April 25, 2008, 03:37:00 AM
You make beautiful bows Gord. I never get tired on mine.

Terry
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: Roughcountry on April 25, 2008, 09:47:00 AM
The color contrast is sure a eye catcher. No suprise its a beaut, every one you ever posted was a winner in my eyes.
Thanks for posting it, gives us a benchmark to strive for. RS
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: StanM on April 25, 2008, 02:00:00 PM
You got one of Gordon's bows, Terry?  Lucky dawg!

Stan
Title: Re: boo backed black walnut and yew
Post by: Terry Riley on April 26, 2008, 01:59:00 AM
Stan, I'm fortunate to have two  :D