Post by: Mike L. on February 08, 2021, 06:47:55 PM
Post by: Flem on February 08, 2021, 07:25:16 PM
https://compositeenvisions.com/rigid-composite-tubes-rods-plates/rigid-composite-plates/
Post by: Mike L. on February 09, 2021, 12:55:59 AM
Post by: Flem on February 09, 2021, 08:50:30 AM
Be sure to report back on how it works :)
Post by: Mark R on February 09, 2021, 10:31:47 AM
Post by: Mike L. on February 09, 2021, 05:03:48 PM
Post by: Flem on February 10, 2021, 10:09:48 AM
Ouch, $63. for one 1.75" X 68" piece!!!
Considering that price, I think I would buy a 24"X 72" piece, rip it into 13- 1.75" strips or 15-1.5" strips, buy a membership here at Tradgang and sell them on the classified for $25. shipped and cover all my costs, plus whatever I decided to keep.
Post by: B-JS on February 10, 2021, 11:09:52 AM
I'm new Here.
May i ask, what kind of Carbon Plate you want to Cut in slices?
If you want to use ordinary 90/0 Carbon, you won't bei pleased by the Results.
Despite of the Looks, maybe.
Post by: Flem on February 10, 2021, 11:18:22 AM
Be sure to read entire thread, so you don't miss any pertinent info. The OP is looking for a carbon twill or weave, something with visual appeal. Personally I have no intention of slicing up any carbon, it was only a suggestion for the sake of economics.
Post by: B-JS on February 10, 2021, 11:27:01 AM
I'm pretty sure, that's 45/45 with UD Carbon underneath.
For Just nice Looks, i absolutely agree.
A thin 90/0 plate cut Into Strips, May be the way to Go.
Or using Carbon-look-adhesive Foil.
Post by: Mark R on February 10, 2021, 01:55:28 PM
Post by: Longcruise on February 10, 2021, 02:14:26 PM
Post by: B-JS on February 10, 2021, 02:29:23 PM
There is way more going in in a propper Carbon Lamination, than Just the Top layer.
Post by: Longcruise on February 10, 2021, 03:33:22 PM
Don't judge a book by it's cover.
There is way more going in in a propper Carbon Lamination, than Just the Top layer.
What I was saying is that I think that is the source that Morrison is using.
Post by: B-JS on February 10, 2021, 03:42:42 PM
The question is, how do you combine the layers and how do you use it.
I have a Role of Carbon weave looking similar here, but that does Not making me able, to build a Lamination Like Morrison or Border or whoelse builds them.
A propper Carbon Lamination is Not Just Made of one Type of Fabric.
It's a Combination of 45/45 and/or 90/0 and UD fibers, that are baked Into a performing Lamination.
Post by: Longcruise on February 10, 2021, 03:53:10 PM
Post by: B-JS on February 10, 2021, 04:05:50 PM
Using it for the same reason.
Under Glass 45/45 for torsional Stability.
Helps a lot more, than the "nice black line" that Stabilcore contributes.
Post by: Longcruise on February 10, 2021, 09:22:56 PM
Hehe.
Using it for the same reason.
Under Glass 45/45 for torsional Stability.
Helps a lot more, than the "nice black line" that Stabilcore contributes.
That's good to see. I want to get skillful enough at wetting out that i won't have to pre cook it.
Post by: Flem on February 10, 2021, 10:27:49 PM
B-Js, what and who are you using for carbon lams, or are you making your own?
Post by: B-JS on February 11, 2021, 01:01:14 AM
Made my own from 90/0 Weave on top for optics with UD and 45/45 fibers underneath.
Testing ready Lams with 45/45 on Top and UD underneath in Back an Belly. (Nice stuff)
Tested Lamination from a Producer in Italy, that's pretty similar to my Selfmade. Also good, but pricy.
Post by: Flem on February 11, 2021, 09:30:34 AM
Post by: B-JS on February 11, 2021, 10:01:26 AM
45/45 + UD Lamination
Italian Carbon with 90/0 on the Top
45/45 weave under clear Glass
All with very flat Paint Finish, so the Carbon does Not come to Shine that much.
But i use it for performance, Not for Looks. :archer2:
Need to search for pictures of my self processed.
Did some Experiments with Kevlar/Carbon Hybrid for optics.
Cool looking, but very baaaad to Work with.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 11, 2021, 10:21:47 AM
Post by: B-JS on February 11, 2021, 10:39:03 AM
Post by: Flem on February 11, 2021, 11:53:31 AM
Never seen it on a bow before, thanks for sharing the pics. Really fun to see somebody venturing into new territory. Are you doing a wet lay-up or vacuuming?
Post by: B-JS on February 11, 2021, 12:03:46 PM
So no 100% perfect Result.
For perfect Results i would use a Vacuum Setup.
Post by: Longcruise on February 11, 2021, 02:15:35 PM
Hand laminated wet Layup and pressed.
So no 100% perfect Result.
For perfect Results i would use a Vacuum Setup.
How are you pressing it? What glue? Been fiddling around with this and am not sure if I should cook in advance or in the layup. Some early experiments are telling me that pre cooking can leave some air pockets using EA40.
Post by: B-JS on February 11, 2021, 02:39:32 PM
In Germany, so you won't buy this.
Pressed between two thick plywood Boards with Rubberplates.
Clamped.
Not in the oven.
Had no Problems with Air pockets.
Post by: Stagmitis on February 11, 2021, 03:16:13 PM
. I have a bunch of Kevlar I have always wanted to tinker with. Any trouble sanding the Kevlar?
Post by: B-JS on February 11, 2021, 03:35:07 PM
Won't use it again.
Cutting was awfull.
And when sanding it, the Kevlar fibers kept Standing Out of the Sides of the limb.
Had to "shave" it with a razor at the end.
Post by: Stagmitis on February 11, 2021, 03:38:36 PM
Post by: Buemaker on February 11, 2021, 04:06:25 PM
Post by: B-JS on February 11, 2021, 04:41:28 PM
Self cutting tread Inserts.
Stailness Steel screws and "Rosette". (The thick washers) don't know the english term.
I use two Pins to allign the limbs.
Post by: Longcruise on February 11, 2021, 05:34:22 PM