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Title: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Longcruise on March 15, 2021, 01:30:54 PM
There's probably more ways to make a bow stringer than we know, but this is my method.  It was requested yesterday on another thread that I show how this is done.  I didn't conceive of this method.  It was taught to me by another archer.  Just about everything I know was taught to me by someone else!   :)

I'm going to start this with some pictures of the patterns used.  The dimensions are marked on them so you can easily scale these out for your own use.

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Notice that these are almost identical.  The smaller one is for the top end of the bow and the larger for the bottom end.

Here's the rest of what you need:
1.  A piece of leather about 3 to 4 oz.  Picture below translates oz to Bowyer speak.
2.  A punch at least a 1/4" but if bigger, not by much
3.  A hammer for the punch
4.  A work surface such as an old plastic cutting board or a piece of hardwood.
5.  A razor knife (box cutter)
6.  A Pencil (I used a pen for better visibility in the pictures)

If you don't have leather laying around, get a piece of oil tanned leather from any supplier.  Hobby Lobby, Tandy, etc.  I'm using veg tanned leather here and will oil it but it's just that much simpler to get oil tanned right off.  Leather doesn't have to be as heavy as 3 to 4 oz either.  Leather garments and purses at the thrift store will be economical and will work.

So, lay out the pattern on the leather.  Punch the holes through the pattern to make it easy to mark the punch points to the leather.

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Cut it out with the razor knife.  Looks like the picture below.  Note the two pen lines on the leather.  Those need to be carefully cut along with the razor knife.  Dimensions are on the patterns.

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Next I oiled the leather.  Here's an economy measure for you if you are using un oiled leather.  Oil it with kitchen vegetable oil.  You don't need neatsfoot oil.  If you are a culinary snob, use olive oil!  :)

Here are the oiled pieces along with a hank of paracord.  You don't need this heavy duty cord though the smaller diameter will work fine.

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Ok, that's makes six pics so I'll add another post to this.
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Longcruise on March 15, 2021, 01:36:05 PM
This next series of pictures shows how to join the cord to the leather fitting.  It's a little complicated (at least for me  :biglaugh: )  .

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More pics next post.

Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Longcruise on March 15, 2021, 01:41:37 PM
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So, that's the big end or the one for the bottom limb tip.  The other end is made the same way.  It's just smaller to allow working the string loop in and out of the nocks.

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Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Longcruise on March 15, 2021, 01:44:14 PM
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So that's it.  Hope it's clear enough.  It's easy once you get the hang of it.  It took about ten minutes to make the stringer from start to finish.  Not near as long as it took to post it.   :)
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Pine on March 15, 2021, 01:45:20 PM
Very nice and that is my favorite style of stringer.
Thanks for sharing.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Mad Max on March 15, 2021, 02:12:01 PM
Nice :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: kennym on March 15, 2021, 02:17:22 PM
Great job !! This should be moved into the tips thread ..
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2021, 05:56:42 PM
Thanks Mike, very well done.

I made one today also, after much thought, I figured it would be wise to have the stringer rope run across the top of the limb tip instead of all the weight being applied to the leather only.

Got me as sweet piece of 12" x 24" x 5/32nd thick leather and some 3/16th" nylon rope and tried it.

This is the first one I made, needs the corners cut at an angle or rounded to shape it up a tad but works great.

This one is for the bottom limb, I made the top limb a tad different and smaller, forgot pichers..

The limb tips ride inside the rope on the sides too.







Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2021, 06:03:01 PM
Kennedy, I put a link to this thread in the tips thread sticked at the top..
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 15, 2021, 06:06:09 PM
This one is for the bottom limb, I made the top limb a tad different and smaller, forgot pichers..

Guess you never made it then   :dunno:  :laughing:
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2021, 06:34:46 PM
Sure make an old man walk 100 hundred yards to take a picture:)



Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: kennym on March 15, 2021, 08:27:47 PM
He prob sent Chris anyway , she has to string his bow fer him... :laughing:

Good thinkin on pasting that up there... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2021, 08:38:08 PM
Wuz yer idear dude..
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: kennym on March 15, 2021, 09:23:41 PM
 :wavey:
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: onetone on March 15, 2021, 11:04:43 PM
Nice work and the stringer looks really durable. I am wondering if the stringer will work on a RC bow that has small tips above the string notches?
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2021, 06:41:29 AM
No it wouldn't.

You would need to make a very small end for the top and that could be dangerous..

But you could make the top end so it slides down the bow limb a few inches like the ones they sell that have that rubber piece that slides down the limb.
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Flem on March 16, 2021, 08:22:03 AM
Nice stringers guy's!  I've never seen one like that, might have to make one to check it out.
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2021, 08:27:21 AM
They are easy to make.

The one pictured above is the first time I've made one like that.

It needs narrowed a bit and the corners trimmed off to make it look sleeker:)

What I like about this style is the stringer rope completely encapsulates the tip.
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Longcruise on March 16, 2021, 09:59:48 AM
Nice work and the stringer looks really durable. I am wondering if the stringer will work on a RC bow that has small tips above the string notches?

The one I illustrated will work for those.
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Mark R on March 16, 2021, 01:41:24 PM
Thanks Longcruise I think, just made 3 and I already have a couple. I use a piece of rubber with a loop in the string for the top, a cheap flip flop will work for that.
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Longcruise on March 16, 2021, 07:13:48 PM
Finally,  a use for Crocs!  :)
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 17, 2021, 05:39:03 AM
Hey Mark, it didn't happen wif out pictures:)

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Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Mark R on March 17, 2021, 02:39:50 PM
Pictures ah oh, not much to it, cut a couple squares glue together or not, punch holes insert string tie a bowline, loop can be as big or small as you want and easily adjusted.
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Mark R on March 17, 2021, 02:47:46 PM
no no not crocs you can buy many store bought stringers for what you will pay for a pair of crocs, cheap  flip flops like dollar store
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Mark R on March 17, 2021, 02:55:45 PM
It's made similar like the ones they sell with the rubber piece that slides up or down on the limb, works with long bow or recurve
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Bow Bender on March 25, 2021, 10:03:03 PM
Several years ago I made and used this same type of stringer.  After showing it to the bowyer that made the recurve bow that I was using it on I was cautioned by him that this style of stringer cups could put too much pressure on the limb tips and could damage the limbs.  He recommended using a cup on one end that was deep enough to allow the pressure on the bow limb to be below the string groove (on the riser side of the string groove)  to prevent damaging the limb tip. On the other end of the cord I should use a large loop that had a rubber strip or a block that wouldn't slide on the limb much like the Limbsaver bow stringers that 3 Rivers sells.
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 26, 2021, 07:26:32 AM
I've been using this type of stringer for 50 years, never had a problem, and don't know anyone who has had a problem.

I make longbows from all wood and bamboo and the tips can be as narrow as 3/8th".

The stringers like shown here have the pull rope looped over top of the tip, very close to the string groove, and the leather out on the tip end just goes along for the ride. So there is no pressure clear out on the end of the tip.



Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: rainman on May 03, 2021, 11:08:04 PM
Ttt
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 05, 2021, 09:34:51 AM
I put stringing grooves in my straight limb bows, I widen the lower nock and add a groove to the upper nock. My bow stringer is para cord, simple and it won't slip off. I use a Bateman stringer on my static recurves with tiny tips, the harder you pull on it the tighter it gets because of the way it is laced.

Top and bottom nock for my para cord stringer;


Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2021, 09:41:11 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Buemaker on May 05, 2021, 11:20:23 AM
Very nice shaped tips.
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Longcruise on May 05, 2021, 01:02:03 PM
Slick,  Eric.
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: snag on June 20, 2021, 12:36:45 AM
Eric, curious as to the poundage of that bow. I like the string grooves for stringing.
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 20, 2021, 07:44:08 AM
That bow is 47@27, The thing about tips this small is they are narrow but thick. Wood is 7 times stronger in thickness than width so a little extra thickness really beefs them up. My limb tips are round belly instead of flat for the last 4" or so.
Title: Re: Making A Bow Stringer
Post by: Shredd on June 20, 2021, 09:19:16 AM
 Nice stringing method and tips, Eric...

 For me and the bows that I make, 47# is a nice number...

1. With the old standard "A 40# bow will take down any game in N.A... I think with a decently performing bow, 47# is as high as you need to go as far as poundage is concerned for hunting...

2. For me personally, as a bowyer I like to test shoot my bows and anything over 50# is a real strain on my shoulders so 47#Is still very comfortable for me...

3. I also did some math and if I am gonna warranty my bows I prefer that you stay above 9gpp arrow weight... At 500 spine with a 125 gr. tip, most carbon arrows come in just under or close to 9 gpp. weight for a 47# bow...